We need an archive link to this from this guy OR someone else verifying that this is true. I tried to find it, but couldn’t. I’ll give everyone a half an hour.
Edit: Thanks for everyone doing so much research. The crazy thing is, when you go to @DavidShuster, the comment doesn’t show up at all and it looks the account hasn’t been active for a year or so. But then RedJard linked and archived the original. LillyPip confirmed that it is his account.
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Didn’t Spencer Cox even say that he is shattered that the shooter was “one of us” (read: white male) and not an immigrant? Like on TV, not in a cocaine-fueled xitter rant post.
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What a pathetic excuse for an elected leader. Almost crying because the shooter was “one of them” and not their fake “enemy”.
“Where is my straw man I ordered off Amazon?”
pulls off the mask a la Scooby Doo
“Another right wing gun nut?!”“And I’d have gotten away with it too!”
The investigation is ongoing, but I want to make it crystal clear right now to whoever did this. We will find you. We will try you and we will hold you accountable to the furthest extent of the law. And I just want to remind people that we still have the death penalty here in the state of Utah.
We can return violence with violence, we can return hate with hate. And that’s the problem with political violence, is it metastasizes. Because we can always point the finger at the other side. And at some point, we have to find an off ramp, or it’s going to get much much worse.
Incredible the difference a day can make.
Source? Who said the second thing?
Governor Cox of Utah. his big schtick is lecturing people about reaching across the aisle for civility while still being abrasive and maga half the time
The second quote is from 13:20 in the video linked above me. https://youtu.be/WNWEwyPTh_M?t=800 if you’re lazy.
The first quote is from the same guy a day or two earlier, I found it transcribed in a fox news article and won’t go looking for it again.
Oh sorry. I didn’t want to watch a video so I didn’t realize the quote was from it. Thanks
I will never be able to get over how this frightened, insecure 11 year old in an adult costume presents himself on camera:
he constantly on cocaine.
I don’t understand why he’s trying to spin it like people from Utah are exceptional people for not rioting and burning cars. The guy was a grifting YouTuber. It’s not like the president died.
"That’s just the spark son. The excuse we’ve been waiting for. America’s wanted this war for years. "
They were going to make any attack on anyone an excuse for more violence on their part.
The people who make it a regular habit to attack others because of who they are, yet also somehow have a persecution complex, find it pretty easy to assume that when one of their own gets attacked it’s because of who they are too. It’s like a damned street gang that’s looking for a fight. “One of themmmm killed one of ussss, time to counter attack! To waaar!”
“… oh shit THAT bullet was from our side TOO? I think nobody noticed. Can we get this party started or what!?”
It’s as gross as it is predictable. Their reactions to these shootings always follow the same rule: a member of the master race killing one of the subhumans is just an unfortunate fact of life, but one of the subhumans killing a member of the master race merits national if not global headlines that will at minimum be memorable trivia for people who lived through that year.
And I say this as an old white dude.
He absolutely said that and tried to make it seem like he was talking about him being an Utah citizen.
Wow, he actually said that shit
I think he also meant Mormon. IIRC the shooter’s family is Mormon.
Mormons have historically been extremely racist. It was pretty recently that they stopped preaching that black people are black because god cursed them (the curse of Ham). They put on a smiling, demure front, and the church has tried very hard to rehabilitate their image, but the Mormon religion is pretty fucked up.
He looks so small
the face of 24/7 binge on cocaine.
he looks more like a dimetripper
Not cancelled, delayed. The screeches about this being a left wing plot going back decades haven’t gotten rolling yet. The far right’s civil war will be back on by suppertime.
Right on schedule.
Release the Epstein files.
The guardian retracted this
Of course it did. 🧐😆
Helldivers 2 came out in 2024. Was he in high school when he was 21?!??
aye, smells like bullshit, me son.
is there a real source for this or just some twitter guy?
Some Twitter guy has multiple awards for journalism, I’m inclined to give him some benefit. But I would like someone to provide an official statement.
Citations or GTFO because we should always check for sources especially in this day and age, awards or not.
You’re not wrong. Just highlighting he at least has some credibility beyond the average xitter poster.
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No I don’t think he’s the us president…
It’s just speculation. No real motive has been determined. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-09-12/what-we-know-about-the-suspected-killer-of-charlie-kirk
LA Times wrote this less than 15 minutes ago:
Investigators are still looking through evidence and trying to determine a motive in the slaying.
The only things in writing are the words etched into the bullets, and those are mixed. He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing and other text on others, but nothing to indicate he had liberal or conservative ideologies. If anything, he appeared to be mostly mad at the whole system.
He wrote an anti-fascist statement on a bullet casing
No, he wrote Helldiver’s 2 and groyper memes.
Hey, fascist! Catch! ↑ → ↓↓↓
Is for this: https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Eagle_500kg_Bomb
They say the truth can’t get it’s pants on before a lie made it around the world, but I love Lemmy cause mfers come with sources within minutes or hours
When I first heard about the three arrows, I thought it was a reference to the iron front. This is so much lamer.
How do you get more explicitly anti-fascist than ‘Hey fascist catch (a bomb)’ and bella ciao?
In the game where that code is from, you play as a human soldier fighting for a starship troopers-esque over the top obviously fascist but played for laughs Super Earth Government, and they routinely call the bug aliens fascist while calling in bombing runs on them.
“Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” is used within the groypers to make fun of furries, as well as when they are (ugh I hate that I’m about to say this word) “transvestigating”, which is when they “investigate” whether someone is trans or not. Also see “If you read this, you are gay LMAO”
Bella ciao is also used ironically within the groypers.
If it was the only thing there… Sure. Its not though, its one of several things, which all have one very specific context - groypers.
Context is always important.
Edit: Forgot to add - with Helldivers 2, the joke is you’ve got fascists dropping bombs while saying they are dropping bombs on fascists. Again, a meme reference for groypers.
Good question. I’ll show you something then you decide or you want to dive into it further. It mostly far-right meme shit and doesn’t make a lot of sense for outsiders.
80 years as one of the most recognizable anti fascist anthems vs some random Spotify playlist. Surely he referenced it because it carries the same weight as ASTRO - Slowed Opium Remix.
I’d like to raise a few points:
- Conservatives are media illiterate.
- Deeply online groypers live under 16 layers of irony at all times.
- Fascists love pretending that they’re actually heroes fighting the real fascists who want to give people free bread. To a lot of Americans, communist and fascist are the same word.
I can’t tell you if bella ciao is a popular alt-right meme because I don’t hang out with them, but I can tell you it’s far from impossible.
100+ $ che guevara tshirts
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There is a post on front page of Reddit that said shooters granny said he was maga on her Facebook page but I did not see any proof of it one way or other.
Edit post is here now too
To be fair, my own granny died thinking I was still a card carrying Republican. Sometimes you don’t tell Grandma you are a godless liberal. The old folks don’t really need to know everything. Christmas gets kinda awkward if you do.
I am almost 70 grannies and such are long gone. I get to be a godless liberal with no side eye.
Not to mention the stuff on the casings was specifically antifascist.
FWIW, there’s plenty of alt-right “advice” out there to use left wing messaging if someone decides to do something stupid. It’s potentially a tactic to misdirect and frame the violence.
Not really, the “hey fascist, catch” one is from helldiver’s 2, where the satirical fascist human soldiers ironically call the bug aliens they fight fascists. The arrows are the code to call in an airstrike.
This dude was putting his groyper memes on his bullets
Helldivers 2 is popular, but I’m more focused on the Bella Ciao lyrics. Seems pretty obscure for a surface level imitation of antifascists.
Apparently there’s a remix version all over the groyper playlists they share.
casings can very easily be planted. that shouldn’t be convincing taken on its own.
Most articles actually said the complete opposite of what this shitter post claims.
Cox said: “The family member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to September 10, and in the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.”
There was a mention of how “Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate”.
Most articles also say that one of the bullet casings had a “bella ciao” engraving which could be false flag but also could be real.
Bella ciao is in a number of these far right guys’ playlists.
That’s what I’m waiting to see. We have to be patient.
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Turns out people with morals, on average, don’t like killing. Um, sorry you’re mad about it?
This isn’t the type of “action” the left-leaning population tends to take. Violence begets violence.
That is extremely unfortunate for the left.
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are we seriously removing these types of comments and banning people for them here? most of us left reddit to escape this type of over bearing moderation and censorship. Not a good look at all.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. (-- edit: i’m disgusted that people actually disagree with this sentiment. if you don’t think you should be able to disagree with people here you should report this comment and moderation should fucking ban me because i dont want to be here.)
They said “hey hey, ho ho” right before “Donald Trump has got to go” so I don’t know how you can say that didn’t do anything…
Some of them even had SNARKY SIGNS.
Not conservative enough? Jesus Christ, who does he want? Satan himself?
No, Nick Fuentes. Satan is way less far right
Nazism.
They want a return to Nazism.
Nick Fuentes is where the path Charlie Kirk paved leads.
Nick Fuentes is an open and proud Nazi and says so on his live streams.
Imagine the most vile, ridiculous position you can think of a right-wing nutjob could take, multiply that by all the positions neonazis take, and then make him look like Dr Mephesto’s mini-me version of 1940s Spike Jones (the comedy band leader, not the modern Spike Jonze) with the confidence and hubris of the sleaziest car salesman you’ve ever seen.
This dude is so far gone he used to stalk and harass Charlie Kirk himself for online video clout, and he bragged openly about “infecting and impregnating Turning Point USA” and “fucking it raw from the inside out” (not sure what he claimed to have done to cause that, but it’s some shit he spewed on camera).
It would come as no surprise to me that his little cult of groypers are far enough gone to have been the perpetrators here. We shall see when the details come out. I hope he makes it to trial and the sunlight hits all of this ugliness; though I fear it’s all become UV resistant at this point, and it will just stir up a bunch of “look what the left made us do just by existing!” nonsense.
I always wondered who spike Jones from up on cripple Creek was and now you’ve given me the piece to solve the puzzle.
I can’t stand the way he sings, but I love to hear him talk.
I’m pretty sure Satan is all the way Left.
Yeah, depending on interpretation that’s true. It’s just difficult to explain how both Jesus and Satan could be radical leftists without a long conversation about religion and the false dichotomy of the political direction
Look don’t tease him because of his curve
Yeah, Satan, famously, stood up against a overbearing authority.
Satan’s not conservative enough either.
Yeah, South Park Satan is a nice enough guy, just gets into bad relationships and rigged a fight that one time.
He did rip off the people who bet on literal Satan before we knew he was a cool enough guy. So seems fair, like the father’s that voted for Trump and had orders overseas cancelled.
Satan probably wonders WTF is wrong with republicans.
Call me cynical, but I’m convinced that the MAGA mouthpieces all knew full well from the start that the balance of probability was that it would be one of their own.
They knew they’d have maybe 48 hours max to flood all outlets and social media with stories of it being a suspected trans activist, so that by the time the truth came out the story would already be old news and people would be fatigued and just remember that there was some uncertainty over his motives.
But his trans ideologies!!!
I have not watched the video yet (nor do I plan to), but it’s easily enough still online. I don’t think this one is as forgettable considering it was live streamed basically.
I think Kirk is already forgotten. We’re dealing with a talking point like Mr Potato Head going woke or Gulf of Mexico. If it’s popular the topic sticks around. But nobody cares about Kirk, the actual person who lived and had various opinions.
Groyper vs TPUSA Gang violence.
Charlie Kirk’s last words: “Count or not counting gang violence.”
🤣 I love how they jumped the gun on this and it turned out to be one of their’s like always. It’s my favorite thing about these sheep. They make it so damn easy to write this.
Maybe the shooter thought they had been hidden on a microchip in Charlie’s neck and just wanted to let them out
The left’s refusal to pull itself up by the bootstraps and do its own assassinations continues
“The left” rn:
I have tons of difficulty keeping hold of the weapons while simultaneously tugging the straps
Some really mind bending shit on r/conservative right now. Apparently the guardian posted and retracted some horseshit from a liar claiming to know Robinson and that he was a leftist. Conveniently none of the conservative dipshits noticed the retraction at the top:
Editor’s note: This article was updated on 12 September 2025 to remove quotes after the verified source who attended high school with Tyler Robinson said after publication that they could not accurately remember details of their relationship
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/12/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting
At least I’m assuming the editor’s note means they removed the quotes the conservatives posted. Either that or they posted a fake screenshot.
on r/conservative
I check into that sub every now and then to remind myself of what mental illness looks like.
It’s not mental illness, it’s just an echo chamber. I also visit it from time to time to question if the content I consume suffers from the same problem.
Echo chambers are one thing, but the severe cognitive dissonance it takes to be MAGA these days makes me think there’s something more there.
I do the same on r/TwoXChromosomes sometimes
If i ever go there, it will to be post a meme about Trump releasing a memorial (grifter’s) edition golden neck brace.
i peeked into that sub, they are claiming MSM are making fun of him, instead of honoring him.
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I’m just interested in the truth of it. People are jumping to conclusions, but definitely conservatives more so. I suspect that deep down they know almost all political violence comes from their side, though they somehow deny that fact.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if the person who lied to the guardian was just a far right person hoping to help their narrative
conservatives only jump to conclusions.
Sadly all my right leaning friends insist the killer was a leftist and the media is lying
Cool sorry brother, let’s stick to the fact that the assassin was a MAGAt.
Scrubbing posts is tantamount to destroying evidence.
Only if there were laws.
So.
Lol what? Evidence isn’t just a legal concept.
Okay, but destroying it requires legal process to properly address it.
If that process has a giant SCROTUS-sized hole in it - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Right but the current admin has been giving passes to its chosen demographic
And will continue to privilege them unless an effective opposition forms.
Anyone got a source for this?
Which part?
Here’s an article about the suspect in custody that mentions his recent interest in politics, and another article that mentions him being conservative. From the second link:
But several years ago in high school, Robinson – like his family – was politically conservative, and supported President Donald Trump ahead of the 2020 election, one of Robinson’s former classmates told CNN.
“When I knew him and his family, they were like diehard Trump,” said the former classmate. “When this happened, I was like… I don’t know what changed.”
Between the two, I think you can read between the lines and verify what’s in that tweet.
That’s still not definite proof. Having the same opinion as your parents in high school can change within 5 years, especially after entering college, getting smarter and making up your own mind about politics.
I’m going to wait and see. As time goes by, we’ll get more information and we’ll have a clearer picture.
He largely stayed around home though. I didn’t look up exactly where he grew up, but Dixie Tech is in the same county as he grew up, and he only spent one semester at the university at the other end of the state. Utah State isn’t very progressive either (they’re an agriculture-heavy school), and I doubt Dixie Tech is either (it’s a small technical college, not a full university).
We’ll certainly get more information in the coming weeks, but my money is on him being radicalized by the far right.
A very deep sigh of relief was uttered by me, but then turned into a groan of frustration, because all those right wing nutcases who were calling for the heads of all leftists are now again demanding sympathy. Fuck them.
remember, Charlie Kirk did not believe in empathy, so fulfill his wishes and do not have any for him
Charlie was a pain in the neck.
At least he started to lean left at the very end
This is the full quote.
No, don’t “oh that’s still bad”, you thought all the people repeating half of the quote weren’t lying to you with the specific goal of justifying murder. Classic brown shirt behavior.
Sympathy is for something that happened. Empathy connects you to others and prevents the need for sympathy. That being said, where’s the full quote on “a woman’s place is under her husband’s thumb.” Or him calling for the release and exoneration of the dude who attacked Nancy pelosi’s husband?
Something something brown shirts?
His dick is definitely flaccid by now you can hop off
Those who REFUSE to offer empathy, can’t reasonably expect it in return.
They flop around more than a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man.
I’m still thinking a lot of those “people” are just “bots”
Time to get un-relieved because this is fake (as discussed in other comments).
That’s right, folks. The real problem with Charlie Kirk, is that he didn’t hate the Jews enough. /s
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I fucking knew it! I said it before that he was going to be killed by a far right jackass because he wasn’t far right enough!
Oop, called it.
Someone else called it even earlier, I think, and more specifically used the term “groyper.” This was before there was a suspect.
Hey hey, get in line. Screenshots out!
And I will admit I was happily wrong.
I said it the second I saw the breaking news on the TV.
It’s the only answer that made sense
