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Any “secure system” with a deliberate backdoor (no matter who it’s for) is not a secure system.
I always think of that scene from the simpsons where smithers and burns walk through 8 layers of security doors with various identification techniques, and then in the final room there’s an old screen door hanging off its hinges to the outside.
and isn’t homer sitting inside eating a sandwich?
Very similar, but not exactly the same episode. That one he was sitting in the core eating a sandwich, but very close :)
I just realized that he showed up twice! I’ve seen both gags a hundred times and never put together that he was the same guy!
You know who should have showed up more? Tibor. Also Stuart. They were great.
Good old Tibor. What do you mean he was promoted?
It was a dog, not Homer.
At this point, I am ashamed of Denmark - one of the countries backing this idea (and if i am not misinformed the country who came up with it?). I have lived here for 30+ years and they do many things right, but recently the government has taken too many liberties and given itself way too much power to decide what people can do
This is also apparent on the opinion polls. The government (currently 3 more or less central parties) and especially the ruling party (theoretically left but sliding fast towards the center), have lost a lot of its backup from the public
They did come up with this particular iteration, but the whole idea is inherited from previous EU administrations. It has been a long time goal of the EU to implement something like this. Doesn’t excuse the Danish premiership though, as they could just as easily have dropped it, especially after the recent rejection, instead of adamantly keep changing the proposition until something sticks.
Very on par for Mette Frederiksen and her government in Denmark as well: Arrogant and authoritarian, seemingly with no care for the increasingly bad polling of which something like this doesn’t help.
Okay, Europeans, when is someone gonna nut up and take these fascists out!?
- An American
They have been taken out over and over.
But democracy demands we let them try.
We can’t even take out our own fascists…
And neither can they, apparently.
Said the American who can’t take Trump out.
People are always trying to off the president. It’s literally the most dangerous job in the U.S. That fuck is just really lucky and persists at not rolling a seven
It’s not luck he just has work to do before his head explodes.
I know there’s tons of lists of all of the people who tried to take out Obama. I wonder if anyone’s compiled that for this asshole’s first term vs just the last year
I think we are too far gone… If you can’t do it with all the free weapons you have on hand, how do you think it’s going to work in Europe? America and the rest of the world is equally screwed. Maybe some 3rd world countries will be fine as they have greater issues than “some” privacy concerns:)
Stones and glass houses here a little bit mate
Pretty sure it’s poking fun at all the Europeans who say the same thing on here to every American.
Ah thanks for another interpretation. I often suck at this in text, so can I ask what makes you think that? I’m not doubting you, just trying to learn.
Is it the interrobang?
It’s the identification as an american. Americans just assume everyone knows they’re american, so it stands out as an obvious extremifier to point out its satirical nature.
It’s… More of an art than a science.
It’s just a fairly common thing people say online about Americans. The comment in question says the exact same thing about Europeans AND specifies they’re an American. Classic turnabout IMO.
Of course if you’re not terminally online you might just not get the reference
With pleasure.
They have put down roots in the Brussels bureaucracy. Authoritarian theories are now dominant over democratic ones there. To weed them out, it would be necessary to elect leftist leaders who radically prefer leftist civil servants throughout Europe, which is now farther away from realisation than it has been for decades.
Oh my fucking god holy shit EU, you can have my dick picks, just shut the fuck up about Chat Control already. You don’t have to pass any laws. I will email them to you. Just pipe the fuck down already.
Wait… How is this a meme? It just seems like a PSA.
And if it is, why is it worthy of this community?
They have mass surveillance systems, now they want mass identification systems, then they’ll want mass
accountabsuppression systems and then the internet is dead as medium of free expression and we lose the use of the greatest communication technology human beings have ever created, to disagree with our rulers.As EU citizen is there any way I can fight this? I doubt contacting my country’s representatives in the EU will help, considering the current political situation they can benefit more from this happening. Law enforcement is already known for abusing surveillance against political opponents, they are going to enjoy this.
Educate your friends and relatives and write your representatives at every level. It’s only a small difference but it’s something.
Even if it is does not seem very promising, I think it is still important to point out to your representatives once again that their plans do not reflect the will of the people and that it is unacceptable to keep trying to push them through anyway.
As long as they continue to try, against all reason, to push this plan through without consulting the citizens, the population should express its rejection.
Unfortunately, I’m afraid there is not much else we can do other than inform our friends about this important issue and not let our representatives get away with it without protest.
Email templates and the addresses of representatives in all EU countries can be found here: Fight Chat Control
The only way you personally can fight it will end with you dead or in prison.
We have, thankfully, not yet fallen to the US’s level of tyranny
Any protest for this by our fellow Europeans?
The only way to prevent this is to figure out a way to solve the problem of criminals using encrypted services, without it affecting those not committing crimes. If bad solutions keep getting voted down, eventually one that makes sense will be proposed.
It’s so weird that this “logic” is applied to criminals using encryption/encrypted messaging platforms, but not really any other tool used by both criminals and non-criminals. Like, criminals use hammers and bricks to illegally smash windows, and yet there are no governing bodies out there trying to come up with “creative” solutions to regulate hammers and bricks, to create “backdoors” in hammers and bricks that make them ineffectual for doing crime but retain their original functions. Because that’s impossible.
Instead, maybe what we should do is improve society somewhat so that people don’t feel compelled to commit crimes. You know, the one thing that’s been demonstrated time and time again to actually work.
Guns are a better example. Thieving tools is another.
Not really, those examples have the same faults as hammers and bricks.
I guess we shouldn’t attempt to restrict them then huh.
Are you being purposely obtuse, or did you just not read my comment?
Probably the latter.
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Good luck with that.
Just for you to know, it will not solve a problem since it is relatevly easy to create an encrypted mail or chat system from scratch, server part of which would be hosted on some random cheap web service platform and a customer service would be installed as app or exe on desired devices. It literally takes like a few hours, especially with help of modern AI. I am not talking about hight quality UI and all comfort features, just pure functionality and basic needs are very easy and fast to organize. And then simply share the copies of such app and credentials to access specific info channels with other people you need. That is all. Such system would be hard to even find because of its small scale and decentralization. And even if it will be tracked down, it is still would be manually encrypted, what means that dialogs will not be easily hacked anyway.
So this law is simply a part of a total cyber control program masked under “righteous intentions”.
Still harder than using signal.
