Hello folks.
For reasons unrelated to this post I believe everyone should get into the FPV drone hobby. People with minimal constitution can get great results - especially gamers!
A radio controller is about $150, and can be used with many great simulators on steam. Once you are comfortable with the simulation, invest in a (few) drones. Most of their parts can be 3D printed for cheap, and the rest bought from Chinese companies for cheap.
It is a lot of fun to fly around in the first person view. I hear they are very popular in Ukraine for some reason.
What if i wanted to combine my two favorite hobbies of guns and drones? How would I go about fusing them in some kind of way?
Synthetic black powder is fairly common and is great for all sorts of fireworks and such. Drone shows should really incorporate more powder.
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Funny you should make this suggestion. I’ve been having a grand time figuring out how to make drones, can confirm it’s great fun for the whole family.
Funny thing is, if an armed populace is utterly incapable of doing a single damn thing as the gun banners say they are, WHY do the authoritarians in charge of these powerful modern military still banning guns?
Same reason they only come out when surrounded by bulletproof glass or in sniper-controlled areas now. They don’t want to be individually targeted.
Now it’s interesting to imagine what would happen if hundreds of officials were individually targeted, but having a bunch of guns at your house ≠ that. Still the issue of targeted suppression exists, and would be highly effective.
If you burn down a neighborhood, if you shoot an RPG or a drone at a house, none of the guns inside matter, except they make it more lethal as you try to escape. They also make your house more unsafe for kids and yourself (statistically).
Arming yourself up defensively just doesn’t do much. If they want you dead, they’re gonna do it in a zero-casualty-for-them way. They can do that en masse, they can do that in rural or urban areas. They train for that 24/7. They love that.
Arming yourself offensively, well that’s something else. I don’t know if that’s what’s being suggested when this issue comes up though.
It’s problematic to say you’re arming up to actively hurt someone, even on Lemmy I believe they have rules against it. So you can only say I want to defend myself or try to imply through a wink or nudge.
What I’m tired of though is people thinking it’s all going to be lone gunmen or large formations of people fighting. This is a resistance movement, we should be thinking like the French did when the Nazis came.
Yeah, large formations wouldn’t work, but I don’t understand your lone gunmen comment. How would individuals form a resistance within a surveillance state? The surveillance state’s powers are currently being revamped with greater mass analysis abilities. The difficulty in organizing a resistance beyond protesting will probably mean more individuals taking drastic actions on their own, than if organizing was easy.
Principle amount of “well go do it” people seem to infer lone gunman to me. Just generally comments from anti-gun people and those outside the USA.
“well go do it”
Bugs me too. They don’t seem to realize the complexity of it.
And the general blood lust of non-USA people telling us to start killing one another in the streets. Wonderful people.
Yeah, the shoe has never been on the other foot. You reap what you sow and all that.
Go do anything more like. Your high horse is dead, you should get off it.
If you want to talk about how the us is somehow different then the rest of the world then consider this as comeuppance for telling other people in other nations what they should do for years and years.
But really, do something, or collapse already.
Yeah, a civil war of mass action will never happen, and if it did happen, the left would be crushed with millions of casualties. The great majority of the violent power is in fascist hands. They will command 80%+ of the military and civilian police forces. The majority of civil armament, training, and callous disregard for life is on the right. Those somewhat in the middle will shift rightward when their friends and families who are military and police get attacked.
The MAGA base, cops and military are mostly idiots or brainwashed zealots. They are used as pawns. They are not the puppet masters.
Attention needs focused on the Epstein class.
Fascists understand threats. The possiblity of violence is enough to scare them before they gain too much power. Once they feel they’re not at risk or just their goons are, they’ll be happy crushing anything with pure violence
COPY/PASTA
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 rifle is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors and/or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. Suppressors might be out of reach for most but quality active and passive hearing protection is not.
Familiarity is important, training will save your life.
Get an IFAK and go to a stop the bleed class https://www.stopthebleed.org/
If you’re currently versed in Firearms and are able to start a chapter, or if you are lucky enough to live in an area with a local chapter the SRA is a good organization. However they are apparently fractured and their politics may not align. https://socialistra.org/
https://www.blazingsword.org/ is better for LGBTQ+ anarchists that tend to not get along with Tankies.
A more decentralized option could be a John Brown Gun Club https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club
Good basis of organized tactics. The guide below is more about organized movement than direct fire. Below will NOT help you in a firefight as it relies on a much larger trained force than you are likely to have. Good to know what the bastards study though. https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B2F2837 Rifle Squad Tactics.pdf?ver=2015-05-27-100939-710
How to avoid getting balled up and kettled. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anarch-ish-how-to-win-at-kettling-a-guide-for-non-policemen
Sabotage guide from WW2 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26184.txt.utf-8
General armed defense https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/organizing-armed-defense-in-america
How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources. https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/
Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources
Feel free to reach out for any other resources
Unfortunately, you also need to know how you’ll react in a life or death situation. Most people haven’t experienced being involved in a gun battle, and no matter how you think you’ll react, you don’t know until shots start firing.
I had always assumed I’d freeze up if it happened, but when I was on Bourbon Street during Mardi gras when shots rang out, I surprised myself. I immediately, without thinking, got down and ducked into an alley, then had to go back for my friends who froze.
I’m not advocating a gunfight. I’m advocating training and muscle memory.
Don’t forget the John brown gun club
A more decentralized option could be a John Brown Gun Club https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/john-brown-gun-club
It’s up there, let me know if there’s a better link to point to.
It really is a damn shame suppressors are illegal in California.
It’s moronic. We demand lower noise in most products, but demand higher noise in guns because we can’t distinguish Hollywood bullshit from reality. I think most CA Dems would accept the premise that reducing injurious noise levels while participating in a legal activity is a good idea, but institutionally they’d never give an inch on gun laws.
Let’s be real here, if CA had their way, the only guns citizens would be legally allowed to own are muzzleloaders/muskets, and even then those would be heavily regulated.
I swear, CA becomes more of a nanny state by the day, and unfortunately, many people in LA and SF just nod in smug approval.
I thank Reagan and the Democrats for that. That act was unanimously passed just because white people were scared of black people protecting themselves from the racist cops.
For sure, but my point was that t hey know that outright banning guns is nearly impossible, so they’ve done essentially what the republicans have done on abortion. They’ve attacked it on every other conceivable angle: they’ve made it hard to buy guns, hard to use them, hard to run any business that sells them, hard to buy ammo, hard to stay in legal compliance with constantly changing laws and case law.
The state’s strategy has essentially morphed to enacting every law and policy that makes it harder to buy, own, and use guns, knowing that most of them are not legal, but get them tied up in courts indefinitely. It’s a scummy strategy, but it’s been fairly effective.
Except for current or former police officers. They can buy what they like and even sell to people no questions asked.
Maybe I’m just old, but suppressors seem pointless to me. If I understand correctly, you need to use subsonic ammo to get the full effect, which pretty much negates the extra “stopping power” of rifles (or higher velocity handguns). Simple foam ear plugs, like many people wear to work, can be as good or better in terms of db reduction if going to a range or popping some off in “the back 40” if you’re fortunate. If you need to run to your gun in an emergency to save you’re own life, I don’t think you’d take the time to grab your hearing protection. Hearing impaired is better than dead. And you’re definitely not going to EDC active hearing protection. Perhaps I’m not understanding the benefits though. I see the benefits if it’s like your job or something (work at a range, are a rancher that shoots vermin/predators at night). I suppose if you’re training in some kind of militia to work in a squad, active hearing protection with integrated radio would be nice, but virtually nobody is doing that.
Even with hearing protection protracted use of firearms still causes hearing damage. A suppressed firearm is going to cause less damage over time than an unsuppressed. Is it perfect? Nope, but it is better than nothing.
I recently watched a video on the differences of a suppressed and unsuppressed weapon in the field. You can tell a difference certainly, and again, it’s enough to reduce harm to your hearing.
what is up with so many people having buckees profile pics?
Irony.
It could be just me. I’m on day 5 of a hellish production upgrade, so I’ve had nothing else to do but shitpost on Lemmy and watch Olympic coverage as I babysit this shitshow.
lol maybe, maybe I’ve just seen you around a lot on lemmy
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I like not being a gringo.
I like living in a normal country.
I like living in a country that’s not controlled by a cabal of pedofiles.
Ok to points 1. and 2.
But where is this Shangri La you speak of?
The what?
The this:
[Author] portrays Shangri-La as a mystical, harmonious valley, gently guided from a lamasery, enclosed in the western end of the Kunlun Mountains. In the novel, the people who live in Shangri-La are almost immortal, living hundreds of years beyond the normal lifespan and only very slowly ageing in appearance
So elves live in Shangri-La?
Unfortunately, no one is free of the influence of the US and its cabal of pedophiles.
The cabal of pedophiles isn’t limited to just the US.
Spoiler, the British cared more about Indians than this administration cares about its citizens.
“Arm” yourselves with gas masks, hardhats, traffic cones (if holes for air at the top, duct tape them shut.
- eye protection
Doomed if you do. Doomed if you don’t. So might as well be a man and do what you believe in.
“Please guys, I know they’re killing us now, but if you arm up, they will still kill you. Take the high road, know that you did in your final moments as they’re beating you to death then execute you like Alex was.”
Who you gonna shoot? I’m serious. Stalin was a bankrobber. Haitians drove Napoleon’s army into the sea with machetes. The Black Panthers took several pigs off roll-call. What’s your plan, revolutionary?
Im not american but hopefully nobody. Their whole rationality for having guns everywhere all the time is that if everyone has a gun nobody needs a gun.
We, the rest of the world, think its a stupid idea, but if the government is literally killing people in the streets and declaring the murderers as heroes, its not looking so daft.
For the first time in my life I have considered a gun. I agree with your comment, it’s typically something I don’t need or want. I don’t want my neighbours to want them or need them.
But here we are and it’s terrible.
The merits of gun ownership and proliferation can be discussed once we get rid of the oligarchs and their fascist ideals.
They use the same rationale for international security. If everybody gas nuclear bombs, then nobody needs them. It’s insane doomsday evangelism dressed up as a debate club argument.
How do you shoot children in school then?
It’s easy, you just aim a little lower.
Simply being prepared for the worst is a plenty fine plan. Just, actually be prepared, don’t just buy a gun and expect to know how to use it proficiently when the need arises.
Not a stand up fight, there should be enough in a crowd that if they don’t feel safe trying to execute another person like they did Alex.
I believe that I can go to the store and purchase a sense of security. Once I own a gun, I can indulge in revolutionary fantasies that aren’t complicated by material conditions.
Safety is just another thing we’ve commoditized. No need to struggle against my own alienation or form coalition with my neighbors.
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Pass.
You all have guns, don’t see anyone using them but the popo? Way to stand against an aggressive state, eh!
Yeah, that whole second amendment thing turned out to be the joke we all thought. I’ve never known a nation to just roll over and take it as much as this bunch. They’re pathetic and their overlords obviously know it.
Or, and hear me out here, we’re really trying to not give dipshit the ammo he needs to deploy the military against us. Because when that happens, it’s game over.
So the Second Amendment is indeed redundant then.
Compliance in advance with fascism to avoid violence does not prevent violence. It allows violence to continue against minority groups, to the benefit of the majority.
Yeah you should really just give him Poland.
If we resist his deployment of the military and feds into our cities he may deploy the military to our cities
Where are you looking for the report coverage?
Mostly here and Reddit. I’m Canadian too, so my news is slightly less biased. Slightly.
Fun fact! If you’ve ever been involuntarily committed to like a psychiatric hospital you’re barred by Federal law from owning firearms! Some kinds of emergency and temporary holds are okay, but yeah because my wife had technically gotten involuntarily committed years ago before we met because she couldn’t make it to the hospital safely for it to be voluntary she can’t have them at all and it’s unclear if I’d be able to with my own history of mental health issues
This does make sense, so I’m confused why it’s actually law. I thought common sense gun laws were non existent in the USA?!
Because apparently people don’t learn the laws like they should before they spout off. Like it’s illegal to own or purchase a firearm if you’re a convicted domestic abuser. Now enforcement, we can talk how lax that might be.
Dude, I’m an ignorant commenter on an idiot post on an idiot social media program, making an ignorant joke. Why the fuck would I learn American gun laws living in Canada? Sorta most of the problem is the laws are there, there’s just no one doing anything about it unless you got melatonin or commit another crime.
Now we got your shit spreading to my country and some unstable fuck went and shot up a highschool where they felt rejected from or some shit. And we have sensible laws, but lax justice and enforcement as well. We all need to stop hating each other man, life is hard enough as is.
I cannot contain nor rid my hate for Nazis.
Okie dokie?
Anyone who thinks their AR-15 is going to let them take on a tyrannical government has no understanding of how tanks work.
A person has to get in that tank, and sooner or later, they have to get out again…
Now you know the true reason behind the ai push
IFVs exist for this exact purpose and they typically have minimum 1 per tank if not 2.
You ain’t gonna get very far when theres a 25mm auto cannon spraying and praying in your general direction.
Plus the coaxial 7.62 MGs
Plus the hull mounted M2 .50 cal MGs.
Why do you think separatists and resistance movements have to rely on IEDs and forcing fights in urban environments with a metric ton of cover available?
Why do you think they get steamrolled by mechanized armored units like almost every time that forces them into guerilla fighting tactics like digging tunnels and using mountainous terrain?
Yeah, this is why the us won in Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam… Why they must have stood no chance at all, not like an armed and modivated population could put a modern force in a quagmire for 20 years… The us is just difference somehow (citation needed) then the rest of the world.
Gulf War 1 was literally the king of all curbstomps and the Taliban fell just as fast to a swarm of CAS, even though they had the NWA completly surrounded.
Only Vietnam survived because surprise surprise they had a hefty mechanized supply line provided by the USSR via China.
Gulf 2 and the aftermath in Afghanistan was still a ridiculously long occupation that all hinged on the idea that the US no longer had any meaningful interest to commit resources and would eventually leave.
Point is, if you wanna go down the route of “I need 2A for an oppressive government”, you’ll quickly find yourself getting into the same situation as everyone else. Unless you form a side via a civil war, you’re gonna suffer heavy losses in the initial stage just like everyone else, and commit to long term attrition just like everyone else.
The point is the us has a very bad history with long occupations, they can put bombs on foreheads and “curb stomp” a standing force but when it comes to the hard part they have little success. And a home occupation is a lot worse then one on the other side of the world. The armed forces in the us are already dealing with some large morale issues currently and I can’t think ordering them to repress a state/city/campus will help that situation much. The us is not immune to all the nasty things that can happen to nations and is not special, only think they are.
And why the hell do you think revolutionaries will be facing the army in open honorable combat? And what’s wrong with doing the fighting in urban areas and digging tunnels?
Sure, an AR-15 won’t take down a tank. But if you’re even asking if they can, you fundamentally misunderstand how revolutions and insurgencies work.
Nothing, i’m just saying that most people don’t understand this and don’t know that their individual skills with a firearm just won’t matter much if you don’t organize into a proper group with modern vehicles at your disposable.
Point is, if you wanna go down the route of “I need 2A for an oppressive government”, you’ll quickly find yourself getting into the same situation as everyone else. Unless you form a side via a civil war, you’re gonna suffer heavy losses in the initial stage just like everyone else, and commit to long term attrition just like everyone else.
Not saying it’s a bad idea in any way, but there’s a significant portion of the American community that I could not imagine being able to walk 10k despite stockpiling a platoon’s worth of ammo.
I think you’re missing the spirit of their comment. They are not saying they get out of the tank right then, they are saying eventually everyone has to get out of the tank and go back to their home and if your neighbors aren’t happy with you and are well armed… good luck.
Sure, but they will get in that tank inside a well fortified base protected by helecopters with door mounted mini guns and Hellfire missiles, go out and kill people with piddly little AR-15s at an industrial scale, then return to their well fortified bases for afternoon tea.
The second ammendment was wirten back when the people and the government had the same weapons. That isn’t the case anymore. If you take on the government, you die. If 100,000 of you take on the government most of you die. Unless you can get a sizeable portion of the peopulation out from in front of Keeping Up with the Kardashains and into the street to protest you’re a pedofascist dictatorship for the forseeable future.
The second ammendment was wirten back when the people and the government had the same weapons.
That was the point. A point that has been lost over the years.
You’re not wrong, but at least it affords us a fighting chance.
The US’s violence budget far exceeds any existing well regulated militia, let alone Cletus’ gun cabinet. The government can kill us from a great height from outside of visual range. That’s why it’s very very important to elect people you can trust, or have a revolution if the candidates are all trash. It’s a very good reason to not elect a maniacal, demented, fucking moron. Oops.
That said, it’s not about being able to win a war against the government, it’s about making it more trouble than it’s worth.
All the tools in the toy box and the us still can not occupy even a small nation well (when was the last time they did so successfuly?). The fact that this is an occupation just has not had the starting incident yet.
The US’s violence budget far exceeds any existing well regulated militia, let alone Cletus’ gun cabinet.
And yet the US lost in Vietnam, despite dropping more tons of bombs on Vietnam alone than used in the entirety of WW2. Come on, the entire 20th century was a story of revolutionary groups inventing the science of guerilla warfare. Small poorly armed forces can take on nation states in the right condition. Did you just…forget…the entire last century of history?
“That said, it’s not about being able to win a war against the government, it’s about making it more trouble than it’s worth.”
The Viet Cong would like a word
That’s a little different. That was an insurgency, not a revolution, and they were heavily supported by China and Russia. That would be more comparable to the years long grinding insurgency that would bankrupt the US if it ever tried to take over Canada.
There has never been a revolution in history that wasn’t massively outgunned.
The real key is that you use the small guns to seize control of the big guns. And you recruit people who know how to use those tanks and other heavy weaponry. Revolutions often start with raiding armories and military bases for this very reason. You might think it’s impossible for a bunch of randos to storm an actual army base. But history proves otherwise. How many military bases are actually, right at this moment, actively preparing for a large group of civilians to storm the fences? The element of surprise is a powerful weapon.
That’s not how revolutions work. Soldiers are trained to do one thing, to kill people who shoot at them. If you shoot at soldiers there is a very high liklihood that you’re going to end up very, very dead. The only way a revolution in the US will work is if the army switches sides to support the people. If that doesn’t happen, the revolution will not succeed. A bunch of Gravy Seals in ill fitting mismatched surplus store body armour carrying AR-15s will never succeed in overthrowing the US government no matter how many childish circle jerk murder fantasies they share. What will win the revolution in the US is old ladies with pots and pans and young people with whistles. You need to get enough people off their asses and into the streets making noise and protesting. That means you need over 12 million people in the streets protesting on a sustained basis then you need the army to suppor the people.
A bunch of Gravy Seals in ill fitting mismatched surplus store body armour carrying AR-15s will never succeed in overthrowing the US government no matter how many childish circle jerk murder fantasies they share.
They came quite close to doing exactly that on January 6th. Have you forgotten already?
I don’t think they came anywhere close to overthrowing the government. Trump didn’t call out the National Guard but the surrounding states sent theirs in. Had the asshats persisted I have no doubt that there would have been a lot of dead insurrectionists.
They came very close. You do realize there was a deliberate plan on January 6th, don’t you? The riot was part of that. And they came very close to succeeding. Their goal was to provide enough chaos to prevent the peaceful transfer of power and to kill the people that were preventing Republicans in the House from handing the election to Trump. They didn’t have to hold off the army forever. They just needed to interrupt the mechanism of government at one critical moment. Pence was refusing to go along with the plan to decertify slates of electors under bogus election fraud charges. The rioters attempted to hang Mike Pence, and Trump’s security tried to spirit Pence away to an unknown location for unknown purposes. That was the ultimate goal. It wasn’t just a random spasm of violence. It was a deliberate and specific plan to make Trump the legal winner of the 2020 election.
January 6 ended with a single bullet.
My guns aren’t for heroics. My guns are for worst case scenarios.
Mine, too.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There are worse things than dying in a firefight.
Tanks sure. But that’s if you can’t keep the illusion of tyranny for everyone to consume.
How did this work out for Alex Pretti? He’s the perfect example of how this shit will/would play out. Stop telling people to commit suicide ffs.
No bro just roll over and take it bro pls I’m telling you
Renee Good didn’t have a gun and got killed anyways. It’s a good idea for everyone to arm themselves to fight fascism, believe it or not.
Do you realize that Minnesota is doing it right and that we should follow their lead instead of criticizing them?
I’m not criticising anyone, just pointing out your fallacious reasoning. For what it’s worth, I don’t think there is one single “right” approach, revolutionary movements are complex and multi-faceted, successful movements usually have a more moderate wing and a more militant wing, I want to see that more militant wing start to become bigger, stronger, and more visible. A peaceful protest movement by itself accomplishes very little - it is the state’s fear of the threat of worsening violence which actually brings about a change. For that fear to be realized, it needs to be visible. I don’t want widespread violence or mass shootings, I just want visibly armed protesters standing up against ICE and defending themselves if necessary.
Alex was a kind and caring individual, and if he thought he was going to die I bet he still wouldn’t have used his sidearm.
I, on the other hand, am not a kind and caring individual. If someone rolls up on me aggressively, my instinct is to pull out and let god sort them out.
that said, I have hyper situational awareness. I don’t put myself in compromising situations. I get myself out of them.
I’m not a badass. I’m not a hero. I’m just a guy trying to come home to his family.
I have no clue of what you’re trying to say.
what I’m trying to say is just because one person doesn’t show the initiative to protect themselves shouldn’t make it acceptable to deny others the ability to protect themselves.
I’ve been in situations that would have not happened had I shown my resolve to protect myself.
having a firearm is more than just a form of protection, it’s also a form of deterrent, and a form of rebellion. it’s a symbol showing others your resolve.
“I am very bad ass.”
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Make sure someone takes video of when you “fight back.” I’d love to see how it all plays out.
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Martin Luther King Jr. was only successful because he was the carrot, The Black Panthers were the stick. But tell me again how being armed is a bad idea entirely when it’s shown in history disarmed populations are just easier pickings.
I just need a few Barrett m82s for squirrel hunting… It’s my right!
Maybe to make squirrel puree, if you can even hit the lil fella with that cannon
