Social media platforms can now also offer witness intimidation/jury nullification services!
It’s a feature.
Gee, maybe there might be some practical, social and legal problems with always recording camera glasses…
Pretty sure they won’t care except if it ends with a multi-billions$ fine. The intent is that by the time, their “smart-glasses” are everywhere and banning them no longer seems reasonable.
So they’ll settle for “privacy settings by default”, meaning they commit to not record anything except if the user expilicitly activate it, and it should be very visible for people around.
They’ll wait a good 6 months before an update introduces back a silent auto-record of some kind, because that company never gave a flying fuck about the law, its users or basic decency.
Scolds? That’ll teach 'em…?
Let’s just hope pissing off the judge on mïnute 1 may get them uncomfortable about the rest of the trial.
It’s illegal to take photos and video in many courts, including all federal courts? Definitely one would need permission and can’t do it surrepticiously.
This is a slap in the face to the judge, and the courts, to flout their rules as if they were above them. And they were above them apparently, they didn’t get held in contempt.
There’s no law anymore. These people have already gotten away with things much worse.
Nature’s laws remain.
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No one needs this spelled out, not even you…
pretty sure when held in contempt at a judicial hearing you literally cannot leave the room unless you’re in custody.
good luck fighting that with your billions of dollars.
Speaking of that, MORE EPSTEIN FILES PLEASE!
Curiously people seem much more privacy aware with these
I spent a few sessions in court last year and they disallow all phone use except for the attorneys and other officials.
It’s because they know that they ARE above the law. They’ve gotten away with things that would spell life in prison for you or I. They have the head of the America regime cozied up to. They were all at several dinner parties on Little St. James Island.
They know any contempt findings by the judge would be overturned by higher courts, or cancelled by the president as well, as long as they are up to date on their protection money and pay the deductible on their plan.
And they think the judge wouldn’t dare in the first place, and would probably retaliate against the judge in secret ways if she did do something, and get away with it.
Judge Carolyn Kuhl, who is presiding over the trial, ordered anyone in the courtroom wearing AI glasses to immediately remove them, noting that any use of facial recognition technology to identify the jurors was banned.
“This is very serious,” she said.
noting that any use of facial recognition technology to identify the jurors was banned
For that reason alone, she should have held them in contempt and declared a mistrial before wasting anyone else’s time.
Zuck and his crew should’ve been arrested on-site for such an egregious breach of privacy and mockery of the justice system. And the next set of jurors should’ve been immediately informed of why there was a mistrial, and the very obvious danger of the defendant having even one frame of video with a jurors face in it.
Instead, he got free viral marketing.
What a fucking clownshow.
Holy shit.
Kudos to this judge for knowing their shit and acting on it. I love it.
She didn’t do anything though. Each and every individual should have been immediately charged and arrested. It’s a felony to film in a court room without permission. Every dipshit wearing those glasses should spend a month in a cell before the trial continues.
I mean… That’s their job… But yes!
That’s their job
Is it though? In Donald’s America?
Oh sorry… I guess I was projecting…
Acting on it? I mean, I guess opening and closing your mouth is technically action.
Each and every individual should have been arrested then and there. Imagine walking into a major criminal trial with a film camera on your shoulder.
Isn’t it usual procedure that everyone else enters the courtroom and takes their places before the judge walks in? So the team would have had ample opportunity to film, record and facially-recognize the jury before Judge Kuhl made them take off the spyglasses.
The Judge also ordered them to dispose of anything they had already recorded.
No way of actually checking that they did delete anything, but the possibility of footage or photos being leaked by a disgruntled worker, etc would be a massive liability for those two idiots.The judge controls when the jury is in the room. So the jury enters last, only after the judge orders them in. And the judge can order them out at any time to have discussions outside their presence, too.
Yep. They should have been arrested.
No charges?
Scolding without jailtime = slap on wrist.
a small amount of jailtime is a slap on the wrist. A scolding is nothing.
I think even a small jailtime would be pretty serious. Provided he can’t buy himself out. A fine would be a slap on the wrist*. A scolding is just that - something certain people have learned very early to ignore.
* depends on the amount of course
A demand for removal and threat of being held in contempt seems like the appropriate response to bringing a camera in, no matter who you are.
It does matter who they are!
The judge said not to bring something in and they clearly ignored the judge’s directions and it is their job to comply with the judge’s directions. They are not some random person off the street.
I dont disagree, and I think they should face punishment for what they’ve done already… But what’s supposed to happen here? Jail time specifically for bringing a camera? I dont get it.
Yes, they should get jail time for being in contempt of court because they are professionals and should be held to a higher standard than people off the street.
A person off the street should get a warning. Professionals should be expected to follow a judge’s orders.
Fair enough. Just let me know when it’s guillotine time, thats what I’m here for.
I must have forgotten that there is literally no middle ground between a verbal warning and execution.
To be clear I want to behead these assholes.
There is middle ground, we just passed it a long time ago with these chucklefucks and we’re waiting for the rest of y’all to realize that.
It’s not even a slap on the wrist.
Yeah exactly. It’s a scolding. Something certain types have learned to ignore in their teens.
My 6-year old is way ahead of the game then.
I’ve got a tough decade ahead of me…
Sorry for unsolicited advice, but:
It’s usually about consequences. At that age, they react to actions much more than to words.
And more generally, they need to learn that words have meaning, too. There’s way too many parents who just lazily shout “KEVIIIN, STOP THAT!” without any sort of follow-up. Not saying you do that though.
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Jailtime for wearing glasses that can record videos in the courtroom?
Maybe the death penalty while you are at it?
The judge made it clear no cameras or recording equipment were allowed in the session and they brought wearable cameras that have facial recognition capabilities. That is the definition of contempt of court.
Defying a judge’s order, in a way that would allow the mega corporation to identify jurors, and influence them through proxies, is quite serious. They have the motive, means, and opportunity to do so, and would get away with it if they did in all likelihood at most paying a settlement of cash.
Don’t be obtuse.
But don’t you see? We don’t like these particular people, so they should suffer the maximum possible penalties under every circumstance.
If we liked them then punishing them for wearing glasses would of course be a travesty.
Sure, sure, everything can be simplified down to people just not “liking” them. That’s what this is all about. That’s what all this is about. We simply don’t like people. No, it’s not the fact that these assholes are the ones behind the 21st century rise of cyber-fascism. We just don’t like 'em. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, yeah they’re all really decent people inside, it’s us that’s the problem. /s
Sick and tired of useless fucking people that style themselves as “rational” and “middle of the road” in a world that is literally starting to threaten my very existence. The time for that shit is long past us, sorry.
But we can’t tell the difference between the “far left” and far right. The one is threatening to fix elections and have a madman in absolute power to use dishonest arguments to eliminate half the population and enslave developing countries, and the other wants not pay more money for less in by private trusts overcharging us, and doesn’t think working people should get screwed without their consent, and wants equal rights for people, and believes in the tenants of the Bill of Rights. /s
Can’t tell you guys apart!
Whereas I prefer an organized rules-based justice system over anarchy and vigilantism. Because who knows when you or I might end up being in the “disliked” category?
A rules based system works when every player follows the rules. One side is actively dismantling and abandoning the rules. Do we still keep playing with our hands tied behind our backs?
You are essentially saying the crowd has to do its own justice.
It’s a courtroom, not a voting booth.
Do…do you know how a jury works?
No, we fight to ensure that the rules are followed. In this case they are, the judge has discretion here.
Would you rather there were “mandatory minimum” laws when it came to this as well?
No one is even making the arguments that you are arguing against other than you…
A judge holding a defendant in contempt of court for violating a serious order to not bring recording equipment into the courtroom, is neither “anarchy” nor “vigilantism.”
In an “organized rules-based justice system,” a defendant who violated a court order by bringing recording equipment into the courtroom would be held in contempt, and depending on the severity, may face jail time (such as perhaps if that recording equipment has facial recognition technology).
This isn’t about whether or not we “dislike” him. But just because he’s widely disliked doesn’t make him immune to prosecution.
What the fuck are you smoking?
Calling them “glasses” is such a weasel word. No one cares at all that they are wearing glasses, they are wearing CAMERAS in a place where recording is strictly prohibited.
I sincerely hope that you are going out of your way to troll, and don’t actually have thoughts that are this small and poorly formed.
The sales of the glasses have been better than their VR headset which has really made them double down on the glasses as they see big potential. That said, I really think that it is a false hope as I suspect the market that is ok wearing Facebook glasses are small, but loyal.
These things should not be protected property. If you assault my privacy, I should be allowed to attack back.
Most countries it’s legal to record in public, as there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy. Though these are a bit different than say someone with a phone or camera, as unless you pay close attention the glasses are easy to miss…
These glasses cams are small enough to no longer be visible as a camera.
I’m all for freedom to record outside but this is a step too far as this is not me making a video for me, this is Facebook using idiots to record the world 24/7 for them.
I’m fine with humans recording humans, immnot fine with companies recording me
I disagree. Secretly recording someone with a phone is much easier than doing it with one of these. It’s the same issue people had with Google Glass back in the day.
I think the reason it feels creepier is because, if you’re talking with someone that’s wearing them, it feels like they’re sticking a camera in your face.
But like I could turn on my phone camera, leave it sticking out of my pocket, and record everyone taking a piss in a public restroom with nobody noticing. If I tried to do that with glasses, I’d have to turn my head towards everyone’s cock, one at a time. The neck pain alone makes it not worth the effort.
But to be clear, fuck Meta. These glasses should be banned for many other reasons.
Agree with you for the most part.
Though your example of a public toilet is a bit flawed, since there IS a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Google Glass was waaaaaaaaaay more obvious.
Where the meta ones are a little less so.
Depending on lighting, and distance from the Glasshole, could be really hard to spot the Meta ones.
Agreed. My friend has a pair of the meta glasses and i didn’t even realize they were meta glasses until he told me. The camera isn’t very noticeable unless you know what you’re looking for.
Not in my country.
Coolies, care to elaborate
Not my country and i doubt most of the EU.
There’s a difference between walking by a film crew and some rando filming you whithout you even knowing.
You have no assumed privacy in a public space. How long is it going to take people to learn this.
Depends where you are.
Germany, for example, has laws that make it illegal to record people in public doing things that could embarrass or demean them.
Japan made google throw out their original streetview data and do it again with a shorter pole so that it didn’t look over people’s fences.
Different countries have different laws.
hold still sir I am not done recording your luscious lips
can I touch every inch of your body with my eyes in public? stand still please
yahknow, if it wern’t for the fact that i know they’re a scummy company, i’d try them.
I’ve seen some amazing POV footage from them, because the lens is actually in line with your eye level.
So, a lot of the market would be people who would otherwise use a GoPro.
Ngl, I can see an use for AI assistant glasses.
If it weren’t for the payload.
The face he makes here…
Good grief. This is such a goofy time to be alive
This feels like gorilla marketing to me. They knew the judge would tell them to take them off and it would be just enough of a sensational story to make it to press. Now more people know that Meta has these glasses.
Edit: I’m not changing it. The responses to my mistake are too funny
Guerilla marketing?
HA! yes. I knew I spelled it wrong just to lazy to edit my post - thanks!
Meta Glasses on for Harambe.
I like it better your way.
Meta’s glasses, retail for between $299 and $799, are equipped with a camera that can take photos and record video.
CBS is definitely involved in this gorilla scheme
Gorilla marketing, when you charge at someone and stop right before you fuck them up and then offer to sell them something.
Shades on for Harambe?
I’m down for this, but not Meta shades. Professionals have standards.
Why would apes want Meta glasses?
I don’t know if it was intentional marketing but it does have that effect and was kinda pointless. I assume people have camera phones in the courtroom with them too but possessing a device that can record doesn’t mean you intend to do it and I doubt Meta has tampered with their glasses so if they were to do that it would be noticeable thanks to the recording LED…
The fucking hubris. I’m so sick of it.
He put them in jail, right? RIGHT?
The return of the glassholes
Step one being “make the judge mad” is a bad idea.
Yea, he better watch out or he’s gonna get a $6000 fine instead of $5000.
These people are not in danger. Any harm to them is reputational. Reputation is the only thing they have in life.
