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      Or never retire due to circumstances outside your control in your working years

      40+ years is a long time for shit to go wrong

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      i think about this when looking at the deduction % on my paystub i chose for retirement savings i may never use

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      I’ve watched multiple co-workers not make it to retirement.

      Really makes you want to keep doing it.

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        All the people I know that died did so once they were retired. No thanks, I’m never quitting the work force. You know how many people I know that died from drinking and driving? Zero.

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    “Free”

    Both my parents retired. Are they living it up? Are they checking things off their bucket lists? Nope. They’re having emergency surgeries, planned surgeries, going to the doctor all the time, taking a regiment of pills or they die, and hanging around the house because they’re old and their mobillity isn’t great.

    A just reward after a lifetime of work.

    It’s a scam, friends. You’re going to work until you’re dead or until it doesn’t really matter anymore whether you’re dead or not.

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      I used to get downvoted to shit for saying things like this, but enjoy and use your youth.

      No matter how you treat your body, you do not know what will happen to it. You may be athletic, rarely ill, an extremely healthy eater. You can still end up with a genetic condition you didn’t know about, with a cancer you never fully recover from, losing all of your limbs, losing your bowels or bladder. Dying. All kinds of things.

      All of this can happen at any time in your life. Any time. You are not safe from bodily ailment just because you are young and apparently healthy.

      Even if nothing happens until you are old and decrepit like a healthy person ought to be, you will still have lost the best years of your life.

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    This framework fails to consider all the time between those main activities, which we spend shitposting.

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      Don’t forget sleeping and drinking.

      Which we do in order to make the working hours bearable.

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      Can this (I hAvE tO mAkE mY pOiNt…) just die already? It was kind of amusing twenty years ago.

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      You incarnate into a rich family just in time for global economic collapse because of the actions of your family.

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    The meaning of life is listening to groovy basslines on the way to and from work. And hugging your loved ones.

    Don’t let anything distract you from that.

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    Free? That’s when your kids send your grandkids for you to take care of. Ungrateful bastards…

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      Parents are the ones who should be grateful for their children. Parents are the ones who wanted the children.

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        I’m living with my wife and kids half a continent away, but every time we visit my parents, they have some kids or house pets from my siblings to take care of. My parents are retired, they enjoy peace, quiet and especially their own schedule by now; they shouldn’t be asked to act as child minders anymore.

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    Don’t mistake this as me saying this work-til-you-die shit is okay, cause it’s not. But freedom is as much a mindset as it is a material circumstance. There are people who have everything but freedom and there are people who have nothing but freedom.

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      I recently had to explain to my cystic fibrosis therapist / social worker that the thought of living another thirty years is not a good thing. And she knows that I have other, unrelated and equally bad chronic health issues (genetics matter!).

      Fuck’s sake, I don’t want to live to be 70. What a nightmare.

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    The philosopher Emil Cioran had an interesting take on this. If I read him right we can stop looking for the meaning of life. It won’t make us happy to look, but it also won’t make us happy to stop. Nothing will make us happy.