“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,” Huang said in response to a question from Tom’s Hardware editor-in-chief Paul Alcorn about the criticism.
“The reason for that is because, as I have explained very carefully, DLSS 5 fuses controllability of the of geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI,” Huang continued.
Just a elongated way to say AI slop.
I mean he’s gotta say people are wrong for not liking it, it’s his job to sell it
True. I mean we can’t exactly expect the CEO of an AI company to admit his AI tool produces AI slop. Got to think about shareholder value after all.
Anyway outlaw the stock market and shareholders and this won’t happen again. It’s just a way for rich gambling addicts to bet and rope regular people into it in the hopes of getting rich only for them to lose everything.
His statement reeks of “Don’t you all have phones” energy.
It’s worse…
People are saying it’s AI slop filter, and he won’t shut the fuck up that the slop isn’t a filter, it’s a main ingredient.
When enabled it fundamentally changes how it works.
Developers will be stuck with the default version we’ve seen, or have to devote a shit ton of money to do twice the work for the people who use this, and they won’t see the other version.
Like, this shit is going to get worse and worse the more people understand it.
he wont be able to afford hes new jacket then.
holy shit
“completely wrong” and proceeds to say it’s just a “fusion”.
It IS an AI slop filter, and you can take it and shove it up your ass alongside all of your stupid jackets.
he needs the money so he can buy more JACKETS.
If he shoves them all up his rectum and pull them out they’ll be all tied together cause he’s a clown.
I never would trust a 70 year old tech bro wearing a leather jacket.
Wasn’t it always an Ai driven filter? What is different about 5 that makes it detestable in comparison?
It completely changes the graphics into ‘ai slop’. If you look at their examples, it makes the game looks like slop videos.
What did dlss 4 and 3 do?
@Lemming6969 @dovahking DLSS 4/3 just had fake frame generation and upscaling techniques. DLSS 5 is the first one that introduces this slop filter that replaces the image entirely.
This one uses generative AI to “add details” instead of just adding pixels for more resolution. It can decide what a character “should” look like pushing a more homogeneous design to anyone using this since it will be built in training models of who knows what origin.
Looking forward to the day I boot up a new game and all the characters look like this because I don’t have DLSS 9 enabled
On the bright side there are more games than anybody can play in a lifetime that already exist. Sucks ass for my favourite hobby and lifelong companion from before my memory begins, but hey.
And, indies are still going strong. AAA died ten years ago, but we still get classics like Outer Wilds
Yeah, it’s actually been kind of a relief to have fewer new games to look forward to every year. I have a backlog of something like 700 unplayed games already in my library. I know I’m not going to play them all as much as they deserve before I die, but being able to make a much bigger dent in them is nice.
Gamers do not want x.
Gamers are wrong about this.
That is definitely how it works. Keep pushing that line.
I don’t like this movie.
You are wrong and must like this movie because I like it!
Fuck. Off.
We’re at the “the customer is always wrong” stage of capitalism. Wheeeee
That’s because everyone remembers that particular saying incorrectly, similarly to “a few bad apples,” or “the blood is thicker than water.” Everything and every saying is being twisted to mean exactly opposite what it should be to protect the pedophile capitalists that own everything.
Maybe so. It’s too nice a day to get upset.
In this case the customers are giving an opinion in a matter of taste.
So is nvidia’s plan to just not have any market share in a few years?
When the AI bubble pops they’re going to need someone to buy their stuff again. Perhaps pissing everybody off isn’t the best long-term strategy. But what do I know I’m only their target demographic.
They’ll just force remote computing on everyone. They’ll find a way to milk this further.
No. They force us to like their slop to keep their mouths full of shareholder-dicks to get more of that thick and juicy shareholder sap.
And they’ll keep being wrong. But that’s ok, flat earthers still exist too.
Same with DLSS 1, in a few years people will like it.
Probably… not? I’m not sure anymore, about it but i think everything is going to look the same in some years with this tech and we, gamers, are becoming more and more aware of our power to turn the tides so, our hate could bury the sloppy part of the tech. EPIC CEO thought the same (in some years people will love me) with the epicstore and people mostly still hate it even with 100 free games in their account.
That’s been the line they have pushed for at least three decades now. It didn’t seem to be hurting them until rather recently, when it started affecting the larger software world.
Gamers are not the primary market for GPU anymore. Its AI sadly. So they get away with shit like that…
DLSS has no application in AI, though, so that point is not really valid here.
Its a sideshow, a marketing gag, and they get way with shitty marketing because another industry buys their stuff anyways. I don’t see where that is not a relevant or valid argument.
There’s absolutely no application for DLSS 5 for anything other than gaming
I’m increasingly happy my hardware is a generation behind and incompatible with this shit.
Same, I have a 3090 that’s a secondary card in my system used only for video rendering because of how well it processes with NVENC. All my gaming GPUs are AMD now.
This needs TWO 5090 to work, so even current generation is not enough.
To be fair who has two 5090s laying around to use this crap? This isn‘t so much a „generation behind“ thing and more of a „overpriced luxury toy for the top .01%“. There is no market for this. It‘s all smoke and mirrors.
Only one? I got a newish computer, but I use my old ibm Thinkpad with an i5 and igpu, plus my steam deck, way more than that thing for gaming. The Thinkpad is mainly for nostalgia and a forever, but oddly non nuclear, war in civ V.
I’ve heard a number of creators try talking about how this is a good thing actually and it is just misunderstood… And I’ve got to say: after it’s come out that nvidia has threatened creators in the past… I really think it starts getting obvious who’s still kissing the ring. This is some emperors new clothes shit.
If nvidia can’t just make a better card anymore cool. No worries. Want to get into bed with the industrial military complex? Great. Message recieved. Want to overwrite an artists design with filters? Stay the fuck in your lane. You design chips that draw what they are told. If you can’t do that right anymore then get out of our industry and make room for someone who can.
Todd Howard is slop-pilled. RIP elder scrolls and fallout.
If Starfield didn’t murder everyone’s hope for their future titles I don’t know what will…
Right? Todd couldn‘t make a decent game anymore, let alone a decent looking game if his life depended on it. It‘s no surprise he embraces slop. He‘s exactly the type of guy to believe the hype.
That ship sailed with the 97th release of Skyrim.
His boss is a former AI slop queen bitch at MS. Before that she headed Product engineering of facebookchat and insta DM as a VP. I don’t think I need to tell anyone how much more of a hellscape those became under her tenure.
Never bought anything from NVIDIA after the 1080ti and I feel real good about that.
Never bought anything from them after the 500 series lol. The last one that didn’t give me any problems was a 1060 when I set it up for a friend, everything after that always had some nasty gremlins
I still occasionally use an old sli’d dual 260 gtx setup I inherited. It’s hooked up to my “theatre room” (not rich, just have a multi purpose room with a projector and couch.).
That’s fire, sli or crossfire anything is so nice to look at
“Well, first of all, they’re completely wrong,”
Proceeds to explain exactly what everyone hates about it.
“The consumers don’t know what they want. I, the CEO, know what the consumers want. And the consumers want to give me money!”
None of this is done for the average consumer/gamer. We’re not the consumers he’s addressing.
DLSS is a consumer product.
“Do you guys not have two GPUs?”
Jensen Huang has all the GPUs, he can probably play games where each character has its own dedicated GPU and every atom and molecule of the environment is rendered in real time with a hyper-realistic physics engine, with built-in AI that plays for you so that even your idle pastimes are automated giving you more time to WORK AND PRODUCE VALUE FOR THE OWNER-CASTE.
“This game only needs two GPUs to run, what’s the problem?”
The more you buy, the more you save!
It’s one thing to defend AI slop; but my god, why does his answer sound like AI slop?
CEOs have all sounded the same for years now. Add in LLM talking points regularly and they all sound like robots with a broken speech unit
hes the source of all the hype.
These people are likely conversing with AI daily… If you talk to AI a lot… It’ll rub off on you. At least that’s my guess from a neuroscience perspective. It’s like the hive mind effect, basically.
AI just regurgitates what it’s trained on.
Where do you think it comes from? Who do you think is the ceo grand captain of that shitship?
That’s Sami-correct… They don’t really regurgitate as much as they hallucinate/bullshit. Which… Verbatim regurgitation would probably be preferable. Like, how many answers (however wrong or right) do you need? I would love an AI that didn’t bullshit and would just give a simple correct (or even consistently wrong) answer and isn’t going to change that based on how you ‘prompt engineer’ it. But that’s probably asking too much.
maybe he is an AI clone,
By the amount and intensity that this man tries to sell his garbage through sheer bluff and bs you’d think he’s running to be President someday.
Don’t give him ideas
Achievement unlocked: Whoever is wealthiest gets to be President.
WHAT HAVE I DONE !?!?!?
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Strong principal Skinners energy. “Does nobody want my AI slop filter? No, it’s the gamers who are wrong.”
Principal Skinner is lovable and charming though…
