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How to protect your sexuality in Brazil

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How to protect your sexuality in Brazil

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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world to Funny@sh.itjust.works · 4 months ago
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  • irate944@piefed.social
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    Me: There’s no way that’s true

    Me, after web searching: Huh…

    Context: They have a betting game called “Jogo do bicho” (Animal game, direct translation). Number 24 corresponds to deer, which is “veado” in portuguese - which is very similar to"viado", which is a slur for gay people persons.

    I still doubt these candles are popular though.

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        Thanks for the explanation mate, that makes a lot more sense.

        I’m portuguese and I always thought that veado was the word, just that “e” was “stressed” to sound like “i”. I didn’t know until today that there were actually two words

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      • brown567@sh.itjust.works
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        The linguist in me now feels the same way about Brazilian profanity that the engineer in me feels about fighter jets

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    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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      They’re popular enough for them to have been mass-produced, as opposed to, say, just writing the text on the cake with frosting.

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        Kind of funny someone is so self conscious about looking “weak” or whatever has a birthday cake with candles

        • lacaio 🇧🇷🏴‍☠️🇸🇴@lemmy.eco.br
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          Yes. He is a respected male now. He is 23+1, watch out! No one will mess with him as he sexuality is assured (sorry if I’m being too intense about this, I’m brazilian. I’ve noticed it doesn’t make sense to people of other countries in the other commentary)

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            Brazil is a weird place.

            • lacaio 🇧🇷🏴‍☠️🇸🇴@lemmy.eco.br
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              Carnival makes up for it. There’s more beauty to it than it seems at first glance.

              Some introverts might think: “It’s just an even larger assembly of people”, but people are allowed to be weird and graceful.

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      It’s a very popular joke. I have no idea how many people take it seriously, since those would probably not say they do.

      I imagine most people that buy a candle like that do it for somebody else’s birthday to imply the other person is gay.

    • furry toaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      as a Brazillian, I have never seen the correlation of the number 24 with “gayness”

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        É literalmente uma idiotice que tem aqui em Salvador (Não sei se surgiu aqui), vinte e quatro / vim de quatro

        It’s literally an idiocy that has here in Salvador (I don’t know if it came from here), twenty-four / I came from four

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      It’s probably more of a joke.

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    Straight men have a 23+1 hr schedule every day. The extra hour is for secret gay time.

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    Just going to say that looks way more gay than the number 24…

    The more you try to avoid looking gay, the more gay you look. It’s funny coming from a place as gay as Brazil.

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      If you’re not gay, you must prove it by wearing a birthday tiara and listening to nothing but Judy Garland the whole day.

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        Science be damned but this may actually be the one thing that CAN turn someone gay.

        Like just thinking about it makes me happy.

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    Aside from the homophobia, they still get birthday cakes with candles that say their age when they are 24?

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      Only if you are gay.

      /s in case someone misses the “homophobic-phobic” joke.

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      are you kidding? gran was a party animal. if she got them why wouldn’t I?

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      What else should they get? Birthday cakes with candles that say someone else’s age? That wouldn’t make any sense.

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    Can confirm, I was gay that year.

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    Don’t put the word anus after it then!

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      I was going to say, if Portuguese is like Spanish, it’s “anus” without the tilde over the n, right?

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        Portuguese doesn’t really have a tilde, but that’s what the h following an n (or an L) is there to indicate

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    • Linnce@lemmy.world
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      They didn’t though. Anos = years. Ânus = anus.

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    Can someone share some lore what is the connection between being gay and 24 in Brazil?

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      There’s an illegal gambling game that has been extremely popular for decades called the animal game (jogo do bicho), in which each number represents an animal. 24 is the deer (veado). There’s also a derogatory word for gay men, viado. The two words sound the same. So 24 is “the deer’s number” but it sounds like “the fag’s number”.

      Viado comes from desviado, which means someone who was driven off the proper path. It’s just a matter of homophony (and homophobia).

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        Wow it’s like a homophobic lasagna. My heart goes out to you, gay Brazilians

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          This suggests widespread homophobia if enough of them could combine their brainpower to form these few thoughts

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            Luckily for us there’s nothing gayer than working together, so we should be safe

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        homophonophobia?!

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        It’d be also good to mention that Illuminati confirmed

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        • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
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          The explanation may be as simple as that the word works better as an expletive by keeping the stressed syllable. All the examples you gave are “friendly” clippings but “viado” is derogatory.

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            • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
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              Good argument. But then where do you think viado comes from?

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                • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
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                  Convincente. Dei uma pesquisada e me deparei com esse texto aqui, que atribui a origem do termo a um homem específico, um socialite português que vivia em Niterói, dono da marca Cigarros Veado e notório por suas escapadas com homens. O jornalista que inxestigou o assunto descartou as hipóteses do desviado/transviado.

                  Realmente o mistério é mais difícil de solucionar do que parece à primeira vista.

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              There are other exceptions, though. Take the nickname for Fernanda, Nanda [nɜ᷈dɐ]

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    Having candles on your birthday cakes at all is pretty gay at that age

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      You don’t have candles on your birthday cake just because you’re grown up? What a sad life.

      No homo, but I love to blow a big candle on my b-day.

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        Big candle sounds like a plausible euphemism like bull or twink.

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      I’ve never seen a sentence use the same dumb logic it criticizes so succinctly before

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      It is an most joyful occasion for gaiety…

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        It’s a joke

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          Yep thanks, picked up on that, so was my reply. Whoosh, I guess.

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    If they are worried about seeming gay, why are they decorating their cake with 23+1 sparkly magic Spanish anuses? Seems preeeetty gay…

    For those confused, in Portuguese (which they speak in Brazil), “ano” is year. But in Spanish “año” is year, and “ano” is anus. Also the blue seems speckled or glittery (unclear in the picture) and it says in the corner that it has a magic wick.

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      That’s part of the joke. This isn’t really taken seriously here, you’d probably buy this for your friend to tease him in a friendly manner.

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      Seems like a joke.

      (in Portuguese) what kind of cake do you want for your birthday?

      IDGAF just don’t write “24” on it

      ok… Happy birthday, enjoy your 23+1 anuses, you [insert homophobic slur here]

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      Doesn’t that say magico, not mango?

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        You’re right. I didnt zoom in enough apparently. I’ve corrected my mistake. Says “com pavio magico”, meaning “with magic wick”. Not helping the case honestly.

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          A magic wick is just one that lights up again after you blow out the candle so you have to blow again, which is also pretty gay.

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            “Keep blowing”

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    TIL my birthday is gay

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      Every birthday can be gay if you’re gay enough

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    So if you want to look extra gay, your candle says 24+/-x to get your age.

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    I am ashamed to be a member of a race that cannot have a floor 13 in a building in some countries, or a floor 4 (or floor with the number 4) in others just because of an outdated superstition.

    But this somehow feels even dumber.

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      This is not taken seriously, it’s a joke. You would only buy a candle like this to joke with your friends. I’ve never even seen a candle like that. No one actually thinks a number is gay, you just joke about it when it comes up.

      Source: I’m Brazilian.

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    That’s pretty gay

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      Yeah sounds pretty gay (derogatory) to care that much about being seen as gay (celebratory)

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    I don’t know if it’s the same in Portuguese, but in Spanish, “anos” (without the ñ) means anuses. So… 23 + 1 anuses. Sounds pretty gay.

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    That’s a lot of candle for something that’s going to burn for less than a minute.

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      That’s what she said?

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