Linux users:
Its okay just plop some snow over the entrance they’ll tire themselves out
This is a frustration of mine with software. We make all these gains with hardware just to occupy the new capacity with cruft. I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.
Try Linux.
I have, but unfortunately have to run Windows.
Sounds like a work computer. Doesn’t really count.
It is kinda both
My work phone and work computer are both company-owned, so I don’t generally count them. But I suppose not every company is like that.
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Yeah, it is a case with proprietary shit thats only available on microslop. Its an endless cycle where we are being forced to consume slop on top of slop. This lock-in is strategic so that users of specialised software have no other choice.
What are the odds it’s employer mandated spyware to make sure they aren’t automating their mundane tasks. Or finishing their work in the first 2 hours of the morning and running errands/ chores the rest of the day.
This is actually quite possible. There where cases where this occurred. I would say that this is more so true within the age of AI. Work smart not hard is essentially an oxymoron in some of these companies, as exploitation is what they crave.
They need the remaining 30% of their staff to carry the whole load. AI intent there to make work easier, it’s supposed to make fewer workers more productive (profitable for investors).
I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.
This is literally what Linux is always like and it never slows down even after decades. It boots and shuts down in about 3 seconds each. Join us; I spent a lot of time typing a foolproof guide recently. Let me see it actually get used lol!
I just played a game on Steam earlier tonight with friends; it launched WINE under the hood so invisibly that I couldn’t believe I wasn’t playing it on Windows. Nearly everything is cross-compatible these years with WINE, Bottles, Proton, Lutron, etc. There is basically no fear. If anything, the software typically performs even better.
I did not use your guide as I do not need it, but if I did need it, it would be exactly the kind of thing I would be looking for.
Well on the dim side, AI companies are buying up all of the new hardware. So we either get software that is somewhat efficient or we eventually move to “computers” that are just streaming sticks we use to access a Microsoft® Copilot® 365® Windows® 12® Azure® Cloud Desktop Experience Subscription Service computer.
This made me physically ill.
Software is like a gas: it expands to fill its container.
Happening with games too… I’m tired of developers just lowering the resolution and turning FSR on by default instead of even trying to optimize
Penguin noises intensifies
Full of fish?
Not entirely.
Then let’s fish.
Windows 10 was never good, it just looks good compared to the radioactive slag heap that is Windows 11.
Hard disagree. Even though it’s initial outing was not the smoothest Windows 10 eventually got there and they made many improvements on Windows 7. So much so that it ran quite well for many many years which is why it was so widely adopted.
Quite frankly it’s my belief that the reason they force implemented Windows 11 was because Windows 10 was running so fucking well that they were seeing zero growth in their OS sales cause no one was needing to upgrade anymore. I myself had Windows 10 running on a machine that was over 15 years old. And it ran quite well.
tbh the only problem with Windows 10 for me was the telemetry/Forced Edge,which could’ve been disabled via scripts,as well as lower responsiveness(maybe placebo effect?). but Windows 11, literally some parts of the Operating System use Chromium. Please keep Chromium/Electron/CEF On Desktop apps, i hope other oses wont try to copy this.
I’m in awe of how Microsoft somehow manages to make an OS somehow more dogshit than the last one.
Microsoft isn’t the interesting one at this point. I’m more in awe of how the userbase just keeps taking that shit. That’s a propaganda victory.
At some point Microsoft will publish an update that will shoot the user’s dog and they will just share debloating scripts. Linux is free only if your time yadda yadda.
It’s part of their culture. Windows ME.
People buy it?
Yes, it’s bundled with laptops.
While that is the basic principle of economics, I was more marveling at their trashcan engineering, finding a new way to shit something so awful each iteration that we miss the last dogwater version
Leave windows, embrace linux
Moving to the open fields was a so much smoother experience than downgrading the windows.
not everyone know how to sudo su -
Windows 7 was the peak.
This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’ I started on Apple fucking II. I remember Windows 95 being new and fancy, and even that 90 MHz 16 MB ass DOS extension of an operating system had better UI and better UX than Windows 10 or 11. 98 was an improvement, NT was a tradeoff, ME was a mistake, XP was a lurching step forward, service packs can burn in hell, Vista doubly so. Windows 7 was the last time the good-bad-good-bad cycle actually worked out. 8 was bad, trying to be a touchscreen OS, and then 8.1 was a band-aid instead of a real fix, and everything since WIndows 10 has been a deliberate disaster. ‘We’re gonna screenshot your desktop every few seconds because–’ Die.
Windows 2000 was peak. XP and 7 were warmed up leftovers in comparison
The whole NT line is crap.
NT cleaned up the 2 routes windows was taking and recombined them. If they hadn’t then the consumer windows would have been a lot worse now than it already is. Dave’s Garage/Dave’s Attic, the guy who wrote task manager, explained how the consumer windows was worse than a hot mess until they were brought back into the corporate branch.
Windows ME is the ultimate argument that 9x was unsalvageable.
Consumer Windows was just a GUI on top of DOS. NT-based Windows is objectively better than DOS-based Windows. Though both are still equivalent to a pair of brain cells fighting for third place.
tbh XP or 2K was much better. 7 got rid of accelerated classic theme, so the whole experience was laggy when not using Aero. accelerated aero desktops are cool but there’s a noticeable delay.
I feel like Windows 2000 was peak. Best UI, no spyware, fast… Yeah, it was great
This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’
It absolutely is rose-colored glasses, whether you realize it or not. This entire thread is.
I think people were just relieved to have a viable upgrade path from XP that wasn’t Vista.
I would be using Windows 7 right now if internet security wasn’t a thing. I only gave it up in late 2020. There’s still features in Linux Mint that don’t work the way I want, because I want them to work like they do in Windows 7.
Internet was down at work today, I tried to use the start menu on a coworkers computer to search for an app.
Got a ‘connection timed out’ message instead, and had to scroll through the list like a rube.
I miss Win7
At risk of being a cliche: try Linux. It’s really not hard to install.
I have three PCs: Win10, Mint, and Bazzite, and then laptop with Mint.
I miss Win7, regardless.
I would take Windows 8 over 11.
win8 is actually very good. just need to replace the start menu thing. they optimized the os to run on crappy atom tablets so it’s actually faster than 7 on low end machines.
Windows 10 was fine until they started trying to patch all the ways to avoid using a Microsoft account. Windows 11 is horrendously worse.
My work laptop, a Surface Laptop 7th gen, runs Windows 11. Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.
god i hate the constant “LOG INTO AN ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW” with passion. i once had to log into a coworkers teams account and apparently windows decided that’s good enough and automatically & without asking linked my entire local windows account with her work microsoft account
one log in took hours to undo
learnt my lesson - never log into microsoft through any of their apps, only ever use web based alternatives (and never on your main browser either, as sometimes logging out is just as painful as logging in)
Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.
“Today Microsoft and Adobe are announcing further AI integration of their products. This AI will tune software performance in an attempt to counteract the slowing effects of previous rounds of AI integration.”
Good god 🤣
I hate how accurate this is.
OP is wearing rose colored glasses, yes 10 was better but 10 was a turd in a blanket but you could do workarounds to keep that turd covered, 11 just took the blanket away and exposed the turd … . all the time.
Like Trump accelerating the transition to renewables and e vehicles across the world with his bumbling incompetence, MS is hastening the transition to Linux from theres, i was there from MS DOS days until early 10.
They really just need to use the Linux Kernel and do their own “Windows” skin on top, like Tuxedo etal
i gave up and have been on Linux Mint then LMDE for 4 years now, fucking hell, all i want to do is click the icon on the toolbar and use the app i selected. My gf uses 11 on her laptop.
I think it’s an inevitability that Microsoft contributes to Wine and switches to maintaining a Debian distro. They know they don’t have enough skilled developers to continue improving windows.
The only thing i wish is that i could alias win-style drive letters (complete with colon)
Muscle memory is a biiiitch
I dont miss windows at all.
All this can be fixed in Windows 11. One can neuter it to faster-than-Windows 10.
…Thing is, if default Windows 11 is so bad, why spend weeks and weeks learning how to mess with it? For the same mental energy, learn partitioning and install Linux, or W10 like OP.
How would I do this?
Go to Microcenter and buy 3 USB sticks. Make sure one is big enough for backing up all you home / documents directory. Make sure the others are of good size too, 32GB is more than enough.
Go home and make a copy of your home directory onto one of the disks. It will take a while.
Go here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11 And follow one of the instructions on making Windows 11 bootable media with your second disk. Test that it works then set it aside.
Go to Ventoy’s website and download it here: https://www.ventoy.net/en/download.html Follow the instructions and make the third USB stick a Ventoy disk. Ventoy lets you load multiple ISO files on a single disk.
Go to https://distrowatch.com/ and pick some distros, some operating systems. Download the ISOs and drop them in empty partition on your ventoy disk. Don’t forget you may need to change the boot order in your UEFI/BIOS to boot to it,
Explore and have fun.
I’m not sure how techy @Kewlio250@lemmy.zip is, and Distrowatch can be pretty overwhelming, so here are a couple of recommendations from someone who’s tried a bunch of distros:
- Linux Mint: Very close to Windows 7 in experience, with some modern touch-ups here and there. What I’d recommend for longtime Windows users.
- Elementary OS: Gives off a lot of macOS vibes for all the right reasons, and while it’s not very customizable, a ton of care has been put into the experience. Ideal for someone with basic computer needs that wants something that just works. (The website asks you to donate; if you can’t or don’t want to, enter $0 as a custom donation amount to get it for free.)
- Fedora Workstation: Genuinely different experience from Windows and macOS. It reminds me of the experiments in the early '10s in creating a “convergent” interface, but this is stable, functional, and mature. Really shines if you have a touchpad.
Thank you so much for being educational instead of snarky!
If the OP commenter does stick with Windows for whatever reason, please look into ChrisTitusTech’s WinUtil. This is what I had to do to get my Windows SSD to work the way I want it to.
It never hurts to have an SSD for both if needed! :-]
Ventoy is probably not the best thing to recommend.
That’s somewhat concerning, but without a similar tool as an alternative or a clearly malicious incident I’m probably not going to stop using it any time soon. I only scratched the surface of one of those references anyway, and looks like digging through them to see the discourse and the meta-discourse would take a little while.
If it’s a point of genuine concern however, there’s always Rufus or Etcher for writing a single ISO at a time, unless they are blob-dependent too. Or dd haha
You can still download Windows 10 directly from Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/software-download/windows10ISO
Why would I do this either?
You /could/ do this if you wanted to install Windows 10.
Going back to Windows 10 feels like removing ankle weights you forgot you were wearing.
Use Windows 11 at work. Was using 10 at home. Seeing what my future looked like if I went to 10, I installed CachyOS instead. After 4 months of CachyOS, I’m not going back to Windows even if you pay me.
