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She doesn’t even need to be pregnant, you just have to claim to believe she was about to commit an abortion. Free women murders for everyone!
It’s worse when you realize the bill isn’t about the woman, but her doctor.
Well that explains why it’s ok to kill a woman and therefore her fetus to prevent her from killing her fetus. It’s not, but you can keep every abortion doctor in the area to prevent them from performing the procedure.
Do you have to have “standing”? Like do you actually have to even know the woman or is this just an open bounty on doctors?
We already have a shortage of doctors as a whole and obstetricians have been fleeing red states for years now…
“Pro life”
It’s only pro life as long as the child is being carried.
Once the kids out, they don’t give a fuck about the woman or her child. They could both die, and they’d have no issue with it.
they don’t actually care about the child, or its mother, before it’s born, either. if they did, our health care system wouldn’t be a for-profit scam.
And they wouldn’t be letting people use deadly force on pregnant women.
A lot of the lobbying money for anti healthcare stuff comes from woowoo supplement companies etc. Imo we should be regulating the shit out of those companies at every level of government. Ban advertising for the products to prevent false claims, etc.
It’s only pro life as long as the child is being carried.
Not even then, at this point. Using ‘deadly force’ on a pregnant woman is not going to go well for the fetus.
How is this even pro life anymore T-T
It never was. “Pro-life” was just a weaponized slogan.
What they really stand for is “Forced birth” and “Promiscuous women should be punished”.
I was actually quite stumped by the “abortion is murder!” argument initially as it can get philosophical quick on what constitutes a life that can be “murdered” (i.e. does it have to be birthed, walking, able, etc, this is a bad summary)— but the spike in alt right violence against women, children, and just people in general in the US made the hypocrisy glaringly obvious.
but the spike in alt right violence against women, children, and just people in general in the US made the hypocrisy glaringly obvious.
A woman’s chance of getting murdered while pregnant (already distressingly high) has already increased significantly in states that outlawed abortion.
Oh, I know. Just pointing out the duality of their bullshit.
Idk why babies don’t just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
“Pro quantity” vs “pro quality”.
“Pro Rape” imo.
Wouldn’t the use of deadly force to prevent the abortion actually aid the abortion?
Look, if they thought things through they wouldn’t be Republicans.
I’m increasingly the opinion that Republicans don’t actually know where babies come from.
I mean Republicans are stupid and all but I think they’re intending for this to be a deterrent. It’s a stupid and cruel deterrent, but it’s probably not meant to somehow kill the woman without killing the baby.
it might not be meant for that, but it will be used to excuse that
essentially through the entire pregnancy people will get to be terrified as all it’d take to legally murder them would be making them look like they wanted an abortion
I’m pretty sure that I saw a depressing statistic about the number of pregnant women getting murdered now. An unfortunate number of men murder their pregnant wives/girlfriends.
Doesn’t using deadly force on a pregnant woman defeat the purpose entirely?
Depends on what you think the true purpose of a law like this would be.
Not if you’re using deadly force against a doctor willing to perform an abortion, which is the more likely intent of the law.
Or the driver taking her somewhere. Or the person who called the driver.
And so on.
I didn’t even think of that. This is just gonna green light a lot of psychopathic behavior.
Shhhh, logic is not allowed here.
There is no purpose besides cruelty. Whatever the shittiest interpretaion is, that’s what the republicans are gonna want to go with.
Is this just a way to shoot your pregnant mistress for free?
Only if she’s trying to get an abortion
What’s she going to do? Testify she wasn’t?
We should probably try to find the girlfriend of this bill’s sponsor. I’m concerned for her safety.
I’m sure the burden of proof will be on the killer as is usually in self defence cases
Only if you leave her brain dead. You kill the baby as well and it’s first degree murder
It’s basically an excuse to shoot any woman, anytime, so long as you can conceive of a way to claim that you thought she was seeking an abortion. It would be a prosecutorial nightmare, at best, and open season on women at worst.
No, because that will terminate the pregnancy too. But since people are stupid, that’s how they will read it (as the upvotes prove).
It’s about shooting the doctor performing it and arresting women wanting it.
From a practical standpoint how does one prevent the death of an unborn child via the use of deadly force against its mother?
I think its more about legalizing shooting doctors. What a healthy country we live in.
So is this just another one of those cases where Texas or one of the other mad Max worshipping chaos states, is trying to implement its law nationally.
It’s a law legalizing the murder of Planned Parenthood staff and Democrats who want to overturn the law.
The purpose of their anti-abortion policies has always been to control women. They’re finally comfortable dropping the pretext of caring about babies.
That shows just how much they genuinely care for the life of the fetus. If the woman wants/needs to abort then it’s wrong. But if the woman wants/needs to abort then both lives are now forfeit
“Republicans hate women”
I think even republicans know that republicans hate women at this point
They’ve never made a secret out of it. Anyone who doesn’t see that lives in denial.
Republicans hate everything. They’re a brainless death cult only outclassed by Christians as a whole.
Fortunately, the thing says it’s a bill, and not that it’s been passed into law.
If a state does pass a law like that, it’s hard to see why any sane woman would want to remain in that state.
it’s hard to see why any sane woman would want to remain in that state
Plenty of people don’t want to stay in a place they are oppressed, but the thing about being oppressed is that it often also makes it hard to leave that place.
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Bills like these get passed quietly and in darkness. I agree with your sentiment, but it’s on us to build the uproar that prevents it from making it any further.
On the flip side, it says that a person can use force, including deadly force, to prevent death or harm to themselves or another person.
So hypothetically, your doctor, is using lethal force, to prevent the person inside you from harming you.
Totally legal as the law is written.
IANAL ; best option is to move out of regressive states, and set the place on fire before you leave.
the law is a tool wielded against the working class by the ruling class, it will never protect you from them
to defeat fascism, you must organize. running away and random acts of violence accomplish nothing.
it is coming for you, wherever you run to.
join the IWW and get involved in local activist groups
As long as you say “he’s abortioning right at me!” you can kill em and ain’t nothing Johnny Law can do about it
More accurately: someone raped a 14 year old girl, the pregnancy has become ectopic. The punishment for trying to save her life is worse than the person who raped a 14 year old.
Yo, everyone, this is aimed at the doctors, regardless of their gender.
All abortion bills are aimed at women.
Women aren’t the only people who can get pregnant.
I swear to god they’re trying to legislate a civil war. They preach us vs them political rhetoric and want everyone running around with a gun. What a shit time to call yourself an American, but then again I’m not sure there ever was a good time.
I swear to god they’re trying to legislate a civil war.
Yes. Thats what they want. They want a mass uprising that they can use to suspend rule of law, elections, etc, so trump can become el’ presidente’ for life and commence to doing whatever the republicans want to do, free from oversight of law, courts, etc.
I suddenly want to play Tropico.
I think its also them seeing vigilantism as a way to get around constitutional requirements like due process and the 8th amendment. This is the kind of law people created by people who see the constitution as an obstacle.
It is somewhat comforting that they still see the constitution as a barrier to the hellscape they envision for society.
Playing around with the monopoly of violence in the US strikes me as a bad idea.
But yes, they’re mobilizing the klan again.
The kuck klan aren’t the only ones with firearms and unfortunately for them people that hate the klan are arming themselves at a high rate.
