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Update first, then upgrade
Good catch. Haven’t been using apt in some time.
sudo pacman -Syuyaywhich yay yay: aliased to paru
paru
It runs so much faster if you do upgrade first \s
Update before upgrade you nonce
C’mon, it’s Debian! Obsolete anyway. Update today, upgrade in a week, not like things gonna change. Perhaps the man forgot the upgrade a week ago, upgraded, and then decided to double-check there’s nothing new anyway. Right?
No, no. You gotta update last to let them marinate for a while before you upgrade. If you upgrade too fast it just doesn’t taste the same.
i agree not as tender
Isn’t this how Non-Torvalds Linus bricked his install
I just want to share that last semester, the Windows podium computer we used decided randomly to update during a student presentation. It did not help their nerves, but I did turn it into a chance to evangelize Linux.
And no, they can’t use their own laptop, the connections to the podium computer, and thus the projector, use VGA…
Not that it matters much but isn’t there cheap adapters to/from VGA?
Yes but it’s generally easier and less prone to issues to just open their PowerPoint (or really, Google sheets) on the podium since I’m already using it. I’m sure the admin uses adapters as their excuse not to update the hardware though… (even if they are still using Win 11 on decades old computers).
Honestly, I would prefer if a video projector wasn’t tossed as garbage if you can just buy a cheap adapter and put it in a box next to the podium.
We have enough electronic waste as it is!
Yes, same; the real solution is Linux podium with an adapter in every room by default. But that’s not happening anytime soon, lol.
Technically it’s not the projector with the issue either, the podium is more or less a very fancy hub with a monitor built in. I feel like the adapter could just be built in if necessary, lol.
I have had windows users tell me that a projector needs a usb adapter. While HDMI worked perfectly fine and I even got crazy high resolution (after configuring it myself in KDE)
Vga-hdmi adapters are trivial
Linux noob here. Just upgraded hardware and reinstalled Windows and Linux on the gaming computers and even though I’m a complete Linux beginner, 9 out of 10 software issues were with windows! I couldn’t believe a gazzilion dollar company with thousands of employees still couldn’t get it right?
I reinstalled Windows 11 a while ago because of a software I struggled to get working on Linux (the adobe installer patches for WINE have since resolved that) and I had no idea how annoying the installation process is. You had to babysit it, and tell it your life’s story. Not to mention the amount of times it asked me to sign up for MS 365 and OneDrive. In the end, it enabled OneDrive anyway, despite me telling it to sod off at least half a dozen times.
And that’s just the install process. Using it is another beast entirely. Why do I need to accept a UAC prompt just to open a browser? Why does the browser need to update itself every time I boot the OS?
Why do I have to hunt all over the internet for basic stuff that should come with the OS itself? Even when I used an NVidia card I didn’t have to faff around with some stupid third party software to handle drivers, it was just there. Sure it broke all the time because NVidia is a garbage company, but it was right there!
Or if you’re me,
yay -Syuand wait 4 fucking hours (Because you barely ever remember to do it).Just
yaywould sufficeI do update my Arch each time it boots. Like a tiny tradition to me.
Order wrong.
they need to make
apt get upgratethat does both in the right order…You are in luck because you can make this an alias (custom command) in your .bashrc file:
alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
You misspelled
pacman -SyuNo, you misspelled
zypper dup. But with enough time, you’ll get there.That’s a corporate propaganda that I can’t stand for
Take my angry upvote
I kneel
The only true answer
genini update my machine
Because I’m apparently a raging masochist
sorry, usage of this tool has been discontinued, please use [WORSE TOOL WITH DIFFERENT NAME]
(joking but not really, gemini-cli is going to the google graveyard, replaced by antigravity-cli that’s basically the same, but in google’s tradition it launches with less features and also it’s not FOSS)
KDE Plasma recommends applying updates at reboot like Windows for stability. In fact, that is how it does them by default
KDE Plasma does what I tell it to
Sure, what I’m saying is the “windows way” of applying updates isn’t bad and there’s a reason why they do it
Feels aggressive sometimes
It can be configured but out of the boxes users need to have updates forced on them. Otherwise they never update.
And what he’s saying is it’s his life. It’s now or never. No one’s gonna live forever. He just wants to live while he’s alive. It’s. His. Life!
jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
Someone who gets it 🥲
Bah!!
Wait, plasma does your system updates? I don’t think it’s an appropriate chain of commands
Discover is integrated with the rest of Plasma, so if you run your upgrades via Discover on Plasma, it’ll use Plasma settings. The same goes if you update with the little button in Plasma’s taskbar
Petty nitpick on my part, really, but I don’t think of Discover as a part of Plasma.
Good call, very little is “part of” plasma strictly speaking
For those who are confident in their system setup
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -yFirst thing I do on a new system using apt is aliasing this to “UpdateSystem” in .bashrc
Aaaand… you’re on Debian, so Blender 4.0 just got added to the testing branch. (Blender 4.0 still haven’t been tested for 168 hours of continuous running without touching it)
It’s a good thing system packages (which should follow a conservative update approach if possible to guarantee system stability, unless hardware demands newer packages) and user applications (which you’d usually want to be most up-to-date) are increasingly isolated from each other and mostly able to follow their own schedules. Also improves security and such.
sudo zypper dupThis is the correct answer.
There’s dozens of us!
A few dozens at least!!
[happy zypper noises]
It’s the other way around, but yes, very much yes
On Fedora live update is turned of by default with a warning saying updating without rebooting is not recommended. As a cautious noob, I left it as is. Too cautious?
Yeah, rebooting just makes sure that everything is using the new updated packages, so if you update then reboot you’ll be golden
No. Fedora sometimes updates configs or packages (e.g. kernel) that require a reboot to take advantage of. If you’re a linux veteran you can decide by yourself if or if not you need to reboot. But fedora wants to have a stable and smooth experience for all its users.
It would be nice if they could do the update with a single reboot. It is annoying to type LUKS password multiple times.
sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt autopurge
You forgot -y
&& apt-get mooI thought it was dist-upgrade
dist-upgrade has essentially been replaced by full-upgrade in the recent years.
