I still can’t get over The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it? I want to try something newer, with better technology, but I hope they can be as rich and interesting as Skyrim.

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    Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon is on sale on Steam right now. I’ve only played through the prologue, but it seems pretty good so far.

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      I was about to recommend this too. Probably the closest thing to Elder Scrolls that isn’t actually Elder Scrolls or a mod. Excellent game, and quite an impressive achievement considering it’s an indie developer with nowhere near the budget of a Bethesda game.

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          Somewhat similar to Skyrim combat with the addition of parrying, dodging, and quick-swap hotkey consumables like potions, throwable potions (called splashes), throwing knives, food, and weapon oils (flame, frost, poison). I think magic combat is much better than Skyrim. Spells have light and heavy attack options, and you can wield any combination of spells and weapons (other than if you have a 2 handed weapon). You can have up to 4 sets of magic and/or weapons in your inventory slots to quickly swap between. Stealth combat is more difficult than Skyrim. Sneaking close to enemies requires more situational awareness, and the stealth skills aren’t as overpowered as Skyrim.

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          A bit absurd, in my limited experience. I did a bow with a one-handed rapier-like sword and a parrying dagger in my one playthrough so far. The bow was irritating to aim and arrow flight seems weirdly inconsistent on distance, but when it lands it’s about as overpowered as sneak archery in Skyrim.

          The parrying is similarly strong — enemies could kill me if I wasn’t paying attention, but you can parry the majority of attacks, including things that seem impossible, like parrying a bear biting you, and the parrying dagger’s window is overly forgiving and overly spammable to the point that I had to stop myself from using it sometimes. I think parrying with other weapons is less silly, but I didn’t mess with them enough.

          I also didn’t try the magic, so someone else can pick that part up, but it looked pretty extensive.

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          It’s very Souls-inspired, but (as someone who has played a good number of souls games) it’s done fairly poorly. It’s still far more interactive than TES games, but it’s clunky. It’s not bad, just bad compared to the Souls games, which are particularly good, but the rest of the game is quite different from a souls game. It’s basically if you take the bonfires and combat system from a souls game and stick it in a narrative focused RPG.

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            Hm as someone who holds Fromsoft mechanics as the standard for gaming it sounds like this might be a game I’ll either love or I’ll hate. Definitely love the idea of having the rest of the game different from Soulslikes. But if combat isn’t tight it’s likely I’ll bounce off of it or slog through just to see the end. I could hardly get myself to finish Witcher 3 even though I loved everything about it except the combat.

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              It’s worth a shot. You can get it pretty cheap sometimes. Honestly though, yeah, I think it’s probably better for people who haven’t played many souls-likes. For me, it feels clunky and super easy to cheese because I’m used to what it’s trying to do, and I know to use the mechanics to my advantage. I spent a good few hours with it, but eventually stopped playing. I didn’t dislike it, but I put it down one day and then never had the interest of coming back.

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          On hard difficulty, it feels like soulslike / tes mixup. The combat is dynamic and most enemies of your level would hit hard, but blocks, dodges and dashes are there.

          But on the other hand, more things can be improved with gear and level to absurd proportions, like improve iframes on dodge or extend parry window to like more than half a sec.

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          In addition to what everyone else said, the summons are pretty cool, as well. You can summon multiples of a creature as well as direct them all to attack a specific enemy if there’s one fucker in a group that needs a jumping, and you can consume your summoned creatures to regain mana (or health, it’s been a while since I played last and I can’t remember exactly.)

          There’s also a spell that causes targets to explode into cheese. And it works on your summons. So, infinite cheese is neat, I suppose

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            Ha cheese explosion sounds like the kind of lunacy I appreciate in a game. That could be all I need to know to give it a shot.

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      I also came to recommend this, I have played a lot of the game. Same exploration and basic leveling mechanics, similar balance of silly humor and serious story, really fun underrated game

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      Finished it recently and will certainly play it another round to catch things I missed. Nice game…

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        Protondb.com is your friend, but also essentially everything can that isn’t multiplayer, and most of that can as long as it isn’t from EA or China.

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    Ok you want something as rich and interesting as skyrim, so I’m assuming open world games are your jam.

    There are three games you should play.

    1. Red Dead Redemption 2 - it’s a Western, the world is very believable, and it makes you feel like you’re really part of it. You can follow the main story line, or you could spend your days hunting and fishing. You could travel from town to town playing every poker game you can find. You can conduct train robberies, breed horses, really, there’s just a whole lot to do.

    2. Cyberpunk 2077 - this is RDR2 but in a scifi dystopian future where the corpos own everything, sex is for sale on every billboard and every ad break, and the only justice is what you can achieve on your own. You’ve got a ticking time bomb in your brain and no time to fuck around. In this world where you can’t trust anyone, somehow what really matters are the friends you make along the way. (seriously)

    3. The Witcher 3 - from the same studio that made cyberpunk, the Witcher 3 is truly a masterpiece of storytelling. The one caveat I have for this game is that it starts hard, almost “souls-like”. But get past that first rough hour and there is an extremely rich world with a seemingly unending collection of stories to become a part of. This may be the most skyrim-like of the games listed here, but you’re in for a treat, because this is a much better game than Skyrim.

    All three of these games are gonna make you feel real feelings, they’re all actually better at telling stories than Skyrim is. The Witcher 3 in particular loves to live in the grey zone, it’ll make you make ethical choices that matter, and you probably won’t like any of the possible outcomes. But this is a good thing!

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    Have you tried Skyrim: Anniversary Edition, Skyrim: Special Edition or Skyrim: Legendary edition? /j

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    Witcher 3. That castle ruin over there? Might have some loot. Or a Cockatrice. Or a psychological horror story of 10 parts. Or nothing at all, who knows. And you might stumble over Excalibur by that lake.

    Also get the “Blood and Wine” DLC, absolutely worth it, even if you’re not into the story. And the HD Reworked mod if you like it more realistic and dark, one of the best reworks ever.

    Edit: there’s now Next Gen too, huh.

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      The Witcher 3 includes all the DLC now, and it’s like $10 on Xbox. Or at least that’s what I paid last week. Just started for the first time.

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    Telling people what in particular you like about Skyrim is going to get you much better feedback as there are many, many games that are similar in some ways but not others.

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      I’m just looking for a game where I can hoard consumables in perpetuity. Any suggestions?

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        You never know when you might need them.

        Have you considered going meta and hoarding games you might play about hoarding consumables in perpetuity?

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      I like the scripting language? It’s stupid easy to edit the bytecode and change something if you want to without needing a full dev environment.

      Edit: honorable mention for worst scripting language in a game: X4. Have you seen a for loop in a xml-like “markup” language? Would you like to?

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        Sorry, nothing can match the glory of Posh Mudcrabs, especially when paired with samuel L jackson mudcrabs in SKYRIM.

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        Don’t tell my kid, who won’t stop playing Crab Rave over and over in Beat Saber (and wouldn’t stop watching the music video when we didn’t have a good VR setup), about this.

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    This might just be too obvious, but nobody’s mentioned it… Have you played the other Elder Scrolls, like the Oblivion remaster?

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      The Oblivion remaster is great. If you can get past the terrible performance, it’s very immersive and feels like Skyrim with a smaller world and more fun quests. The DLC included was also great.

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        It really was! It was available for free on Gamepass, so even though I’d already done SO many playthroughs, I thought I’d check it out. I didn’t put it down until I had done almost literally everything.

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          I thought I was the only person who enjoyed the remaster. I got it for PS5 instead of PC because I wasn’t sure my PC could handle it, and it ran very smooth for me. I know some people had issues but I put around 80 hours in and never had any problems. I still play the original Oblivion if I wanna play keyboard and mouse but I think I prefer the remaster if I’m just gonna turn off my brain and play for a while.

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        Add in OpenMW and Tamriel Rebuilt.

        Tbh, I really need to get into Morrowind myself. I’m excited for Skywind and kinda waiting for that to come out instead, since I have a lot of projects keeping me from gaming this year

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    Have you played the Fallout games by the same dev? 3, New Vegas, and 4 play very similarly to Skyrim just in a different genre.

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      With New Vegas being vastly superior to the others in story and characters.

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        I preferred 3, tbh. With the smallest exception of the glaring dumb plot hole at the end, though they did patch that.

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        The writing and atmosphere is better in New Vegas, but the gunplay is better in 4.

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    Baldurs gate 3 is not quite the same thing, but has similar themes. You are an adventurer saving the world (most of the time) who collects an inordinate amount of items. It’s one of the only other games I have over 800 hours in.

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        You should definitely play baldur’s gate! Very little resemblance to Skyrim besides being a fantasy game, but the story, build variety, characters, setting, literally everything, is fantastic. I’m almost through my first playthrough of bg3 and it’s been tons of fun

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    Skyrim is actually the last skyrim-type game to be manufactured until Bethesda announces Skyrim 2 hopefully sometime this year.

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    Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Not the same kind of “magic” but if you want immersion and a super rewarding story I highly recommend it

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        And when we mean gay, like make it REALLY wet and sloppy kind of gay, yk? The kinda gay that it even embarrasses the queerest of queens.

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          Wait what? What is gay? Kcd2? I haven’t played it. Is it really that gay? Or are you saying you just wish it was super mega plus ultra gay?

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            Lol you can choose to play the character as gay if you’d like, but besides some dudes coming onto you there’s no forced gayness.

            There’s definitely no mandatory gay sex scenes.

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            There’s a few unskipable sex scenes that are pretty gay. Admittedly the control mechanics for the thrust are pretty well thought out and engaging, and its pretty funny the way your character reacts to getting the guy’s poo on his pizzle. But its definitely seemed kinda gay to me.

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              The 97 minute make out and soft porn cutscene with Drat in the tent during the North peak battle was peak, though I think they just reuse the thrusting mechanics from the sex scene. Darts super gay and wants it, but he gets shot by a stray arrow while looking for olive oil and you have to do a mandatory mourning quest. Real tear jerker, but you do get to meet the sexy Riddler Barley at the funeral

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    Have you looked at the gothic remake? It’s probably not as big but it should scratch a similar itch. But it’s not as free form, you’re playing as a set (male) nameless hero.

    Otherwise… no not really. I could recommend wildly different games and genres that also feature exploration, but skyrim is just very good.

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      Omg playing this now and good lord this game was and is incredible.

      It’s been so long since I played it that I forgot everything and it’s so fun to play the remake!

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      It’s crazy that the original Gothic 1 predates all other games mentioned here by years. It is even cited as a main inspiration for the Witcher series. And the remake is really good.

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      How is Gothic remake mechanically? Like, are the controls modernized too? What about difficulty, did it drop?

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        The controls are modern, the difficulty can be set fine-grained. You can adjust three different aspects of the game (combat, progression and resources) individually in three steps.

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        I only watched some streams, they did some updates for the controls and the UI, inventory stood out to me. So I hope they updated the controls to be “modern and palatable” too.