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        “Associated with”? That’s definitely incorrect. Maybe"referencing", “calling out” or even “denouncing”…

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          Associate: a mental connection between ideas or things.

          “the word bureaucracy has unpleasant associations”

          the action of making a mental connection.

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            Associate: to join as a partner, friend, or companion; They were closely associated with each other during the war.

            See? I can paste definitions too! I was merely pointing out that that specific word choice could lead the reader to infer collaboration or partnership. The comic is clearly not endorsing that worldview…

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                And the comment is clearly didn’t mean that definition

                Yep, definitely dealing with a rational, intelligent human here. No need to engage…

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              I don’t know what to tell you mate. You came off to me as if trying to tell me I didn’t use the word “associate” correctly, and I was trying to show you that I, in fact, did. I got nothing else for ya.

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    A decade ago - all the rage bait YouTubers.

    Today:

    LibsOfTiktok

    Laura whatever her name is who is sucking off Trump right now

    Probably a bunch more names.

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    One frustrating thing about Limbaugh (and Jones and Hannity, et al) is that they made Being Angry a Right Wing Thing.

    Extremely frustrating when you see a genocide in Gaza or global temperatures spiking or some cop shoot up a subway over a $3 fare, express anger, and have someone respond “You just sound like Rush Limbaugh”.

    There are real reasons to feel righteous anger and to use that as motivation to act. But guys like Rush just fill the airways with this white nationalist noise. They make the idea of being angry this exclusive Right Wing attitude to have.

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      The problem is that you can be angry all day and it won’t accomplish anything without coordinated, planned, collective action. And collective action is made more difficult with angry people.

      Anger motivates you to act Right Now, which is why it’s good for reactionaries. They want you either impotently angry so you can’t think clearly to make those long term, organized plans; or they want you mad enough to go do a little stochastic terrorism.

      Progressives have a lot of trouble hitting the slow-burn simmer of anger in a way that’s motivational and doesn’t slip into despair when you get tired from all that rage that you can’t turn into immediate results.

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        The problem is that you can be angry all day and it won’t accomplish anything without coordinated, planned, collective action. And collective action is made more difficult with angry people.

        I disagree. People who aren’t agitated make for poor partners. They’re unreliable, uncommitted, and easily wooed by empty platitudes from the folks committing the offenses.

        Anger motivates you to act Right Now, which is why it’s good for reactionaries.

        Generic always-on anger burns you out and turns you into a cynic. It’s the cynicism that reactionaries feed on. But when you have a baseline moral position and you can recognize what does and does not rise to the level of offense, you can leverage outrage productively rather than feel sour and hateful all the time.

        Progressives have a lot of trouble hitting the slow-burn simmer of anger in a way that’s motivational and doesn’t slip into despair when you get tired from all that rage that you can’t turn into immediate results.

        Progressives (in the US) have a hard time mobilizing large groups toward productive action because they lack the resources and the institutional structure to mobilize individual activists into a collective workforce. When progressives get access to these kinds of resources, they generate enormous social value in a relatively short amount of time. The despair we routinely see in progressive communities stems from groups that are fractured - often deliberately so - and undermined by state and corporate institutions.

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      That is frustrating. I would counter those people that being passionate is not the same thing as extremist media personalities that literally profit off outrage. It’s okay to hear and react to things, but we shouldn’t all be open fucking sores that flip out over literally every single thing we encounter like an autistic toddler: all emotion, no perspective, can’t be reasoned with, etc. That’s the Republican Outage Machine…

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        we shouldn’t all be open fucking sores that flip out over literally every single thing we encounter like an autistic toddler: all emotion, no perspective

        What happens when I live in a country where more perspective just means witnessing more atrocities?

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          Do you have an example where “more perspective just means witnessing more atrocities”? I think you’re thinking of “awareness”.

          There’s definitely an argument for limiting "doom and gloom news for ones own mental health…

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            Do you have an example where “more perspective just means witnessing more atrocities”?

            I spend a couple of hours a day in the NICU as a new father. It’s an experience I’ve never had before, so I’m learning what it means to be a parent.

            Recently, one of the women who I’d seen at the bed next to mine on a daily basis for months stopped showing up. Her baby was attended to by a nurse.

            I find out from one of the staff that the mom was flagged for intoxicants in her system at birth. She was reported to CPS. They had come into the NICU while she was feeding the baby the prior day and the CPS official had pulled her out of the room, scolded her for being an addict, and forbad her from reentering to see her child. She was then removed from the building by security, screaming and crying.

            This story is tragic as told. But as a new father, it carries a much more rarified horror.

            There’s definitely an argument for limiting "doom and gloom news for ones own mental health…

            This isn’t simply “the news”. It’s a certain consciousness of the world around you that you develop through lived experience.

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    My brother was into him back in the day (he still has shit taste) and another sibling and I found a clip of him telling fox news he makes things up and does it all for the money. Brother didn’t care and just kept listening to the guy

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    This misunderstands the motivations of real-life evil people.

    Once you accept there is no afterlife, that your legacy means nothing, and that you’re a piece of shit who has no desire to contribute to society or help others - only your personal success and self-pleasure while living matter.

    Tarquin says it best, though much more humorously, here: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html

    By Rush’s personal measure, he absolutely won. So did Kissinger. So did Reagan. Trump and Jones and Rogan are on track.

    You don’t beat such people with legacy.

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      I’m an atheist, however my personal interpretation of the afterlife is how people remember you. That way you’re judged by your peers (all of humanity).

      So arguably being famous is a very good deal, as many more people will remember you. However if you’re a shitty bastard, like Limbaugh, you’ll be remembered as a greedy count for quite some time before forgetfulness sets in.

      Deservedly so imho

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      You can either make somthing for younger generations. Or burn what’s been built for your own pleasure.

      Boomers made thier choice

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      Even if you cared about legacy, realistically, how many people are remembered for more than a few generations, if they are remembered at all?

      Even the majority of the leaders of nations are only remembered by historians, people with a high interest in history and briefly by some students studying for their next test, and these will be mainly the leaders of their own country. Unless they did something exceptional good or bad.

      And then there are a few exceptional high achieving writers, inventors, scientists and academics. Even within their field most become irrelevant and forgotten after a few decades.

      Some ordinary people who did extraordinary things might also be remembered.

      But if you compare that to the enormous amount of people who have lived and died, basically no one will be remembered after their death. I’m not making excuses for the bad behaviors of horrible people, I’m just saying that losing all relevance and not being remembered after death isn’t special.

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      I don’t think that most of the people we might consider evil have that level of self-awareness. Certainly those with a pathological lack of empathy are overrepresented in the highest echelons of power. It doesn’t logically follow that they see themselves as bad.

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      What exactly is legacy, right? genghis khan had a legacy, but what is beyond his crazy libido?

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      Just to clarify your answer a little bit: this has nothing to do with atheism, nor that atheists think like this. Many of these asshats actually are religious and somehow with mental gymnastics tell themselves they’re righteous and good and that they’ll get into some imaginary heaven because of their hateful behavior.

      This has more to do with mental illness like narcissism, and psychopathy than them being atheist

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    All I remember is that piece of shit Rush Limbaugh is buried at Bellefontaine Cemetery Saint Louis, St. Louis City, Missouri, USA.

    Very useful information to know.

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      He died of lung cancer from all the cigar smoking after decades to claiming that smoking doesn’t cause cancer.

      I wouldn’t wish for anyone’s death, but I can certainly celebrate it after the fact.

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        That’s okay, after filling out a USPS online change of address form I’m now wishing for the death of DeJoy, I can add a random conservative pundit to the list no problem to make up for your lax hate game.

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        I’m happy to wish a few people a short, nasty death real soon. Limbaugh was on my better off dead list, and I’m glad it was (complications of) a self inflicted lung cancer (COVID?)

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    I’d say his replacement is Alex Jones, and his replacement is Joe Rogan. It’s just a series of ignorant men with microphones and an even more ignorant audience.

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    Rush, Carlson, Hannity, O’Reilly, no one remembers them or will remember them after they’re gone. Agitators who screamed into the void and only served to fatten their pockets and make the world worse.

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    For a long time, I hated him. Then for a brief moment, I thought he was hilarious because I figured it had to be satire with how over the top it was. Then went right back to hating him when I found out it wasn’t satire at all.

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      I still don’t really understand his guest roles on family guy. He had to have known he was the joke, but still did it anyway.

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    I hadn’t thought of him since the last time somebody trashed him. That is his legacy. He is like Joseph McCarthy in the 50’s. Just another example of what not to be.

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    They’ll die, yes, but they’ll be survived by another, larger generation of them.

    You don’t remember a single mold cell, but it’s really fucking hard to get rid of the entire infestation.