Someone PLEASE tell this woman🤦🤦🤦
imho that’s what connects all the right, from finance bros to masculinists to racists : they’re terrified. Of change, of difference. Of others. They’re deathly afraid and it explains every action they take, every word they say.
This is not specific to this post but can we please not hype the guy up too much before we see what he actually does when in office? From all the news coverage I’m getting a ‘He is the Messiah! We are rescued!’ vibe. He may still bend the knee to the rich once he has power.
It’s also just a mayor. Sure mayor of NYC but it’s barely influential.
millionaires? you mean taxnonpayers?
the scariest part about tax the millionaires policies for millionaires is that we did it in massachusetts and the outcome was that it worked and raised billions for the state
We’re the taxpayers that want “free” health care while simultaneously paying taxes. The Right somehow thinks we’re too stupid to know we pay taxes that makes these things happen. Heck…we want people to have nice things.
Meanwhile the Right doesn’t want to pay taxes yet somehow expects to get social services like paved roads or safe drinking water. I’d mention schools or health care but the republicans clearly DGAF about those things.
I’ll bet Kathy Wilde doesnt pay taxes. Also, that job description says “oligarch enabler”.
In a late 2020 interview, she described herself as “the lone defender of the billionaires at this point”.[1] Pro Publica reported in 2018 that Wylde’s salary exceeded $1.1 million, which would make her among the highest paid non-profit executives in the State of New York.[2]
Jesus fucking christ.
This is very Boomers thinking everyone is still a 16 year old Millennial.
Boomer brains stuck in 1998, and it shows.
They don’t believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. “Taxpayer” just means “upper income tax bracket” in their mind.
Also brown people don’t pay taxes in their fantasy world. It’s just another racist dog whistle.
Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.
… people under a certain income level don’t pay any taxes
Okay, they “don’t pay taxes”, but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn’t quite the same as not paying.
Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.
Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.
His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)
holy shit i want this graph for every election
Thanks for that information, I had no idea
They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there’s also fees to use government services. That’s all taxes.
But there’s this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don’t contribute to society, and so they don’t think any of that counts.
They’re just stupid and meant folks who make millions and billions don’t pay their share of taxes
Totally fair. I wasn’t thinking about all the taxes the government steals from us, just the income tax
The poor pay the largest portion of their wages in taxes. They also benefit society far beyond any other social group. It’s the wealthy that take the most from the rest of us and pay almost nothing back.
taxes the government steals from us
No it’s not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.
So I’m aware there is a right-libertarian argument at work here that frames all taxes, always, as “stealing”. However, there’s an argument here that can be used along more democratic socialist lines.
Taxation in representative democracy is legitimate when the democracy itself lives up to the terms. We have come to some kind of consensus as a society on the level of taxation and where that money should go. When we do that, and we say the road is “our road”, we mean that in a literal way. A part of the fruits of our labor were diverted to build that road, and we get a say in how it works.
The US is not a democracy that lives up to the term. “Taxation is theft” is correct in this context.
As with everything context is key. Taxation is not inherently theft, but in the USA, it absolutely is.
Right, that’s the point of the “taxpayer” dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don’t pay taxes, and implies they’re lesser members of society because of it.
People with great wealth don’t pay taxes. They employ loopholes only available to the wealthy. Btw, almost every state has sales tax, you dipshit.
Way to rage at and insult the guy that already admitted he was wrong. You tool.
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Well, at least your username is half right.
You’re right, but people over a certain tax bracket are also pretty good at not paying taxes.
Oh no. Anyway…
Actually unreadable with the size thing and bloat
I am tired of the boomer narrative of that it’s always those “young people” ruining everything. Oldest millennials are now in their mid-40’s. Or even worse, the youngest gen-z people are almost 18 now. These people have been paying their taxes for years on end now.
The only terrified people in this scenario are the literal parasites who don’t pay anything, through loopholes and theft
The lone defender of the billionaires at this point
says everything we need to know[Gen-Z] the generation loosely being defined as people born around 1997 to 2012.
Yep it is so stupid everyone blaming the boomers when they are no longer the largest voting block. But millennials are, also nobody wants to admit young people are stupid also.
Boomers were responsible for Reagan and Citizens United, you could maybe blame Gen X for Bush and Trump but definitely can’t blame Millennials on that.
In fact, Millennials were even more progressive aligned than Gen Z in the last election, with a -16 point shift between Biden and Harris. A lot of outlets are reporting a large Gen Z specific move to the right as they added 8 Million more voters to the pool in 2024, although take that claim with a grain of salt because the only data I could find on it was the 18-44 age group.
No, boomers are responsible for the mess of crap we’ve found ourselves in. That’s why people blame them for it. They voted for “i got mine, and pulled the ladders up that helped them build their wealth and education”. That’s why we blame them for shit still.
The issue now though is that none of the politicians, talking heads, radical fascist right wing influences are boomers. Some are X, most are Millennials. This could have been turned around according to those who insisted that “all this will.die off with the Boomers!” for the past 20 years but NO, we became even MORE radically fascist and racist.
The generation divide is silly because it isnt fucking true…not int the least.
No, its the boomers still. They created the news networks like Fox News, turned the internet into the cess pool that it is, and drove all of the propaganda that has turned millennial and gen X people into frothing right-wing nut jobs. Maybe in ten years, we can stop saying its the boomers. But they have single handedly been responsible for all of the shit we find ourselves in, the housing bubbles, the student loan crisis, everything. I’ll stop saying its the boomers when its no longer a problem of their generations making.
And when younger generations continue the same program?
Absolving them of responsibility is highly irresponsible.
You wanna know who to actually blame?:
I’m so sick of this divisive generation claptrap.
The problem is that wealth inequality in the USA has an age component.
Boomers are far wealthier than previous generations at their equivalent age as a percentage of national wealth. They are also incredibly sensitive to taxes as their retirement depends on managing wealth.
In contrast, Gen X and millennials are poorer than Boomers at their equivalent age and mainly contribute to the economy with their labor.
It isn’t a perfect divide, but there is a wealth divide that represents itself somewhat as a generational divide.
Exactly. It’s not young vs old, black vs white, left vs right, etc. The ONLY enemy are the WEALTHY, and we will never have peace in this nation and this world until we force the Sociopathic Oligarchs and the Transnational Corporations to serve our people, our nation, and the world, and not just themselves.
What’s interesting is that some people read this and think it means “bigotry isn’t a problem anymore”, instead of “the rich use bigotry to control the masses”. You have to address bigotry as well as the economic issues.
Well, its obviously not my generation at fault. /s
“employers and taxpayers” is like “job creators”.
They don’t want to say “the ultra wealthy” because that would be too accurate for the owner of the site, who is an ultra wealthy person.
It’s so backwards too, since the ultra wealthy are the ones who most dodge paying their fair share of taxes.
“The media” love nothing more than to find the absolute most disgusting scum in our country and interview them for their opinions…
Outrage generates clicks, clicks generate revenue.
We’re both here because we’re disgusted by the headline so it obviously works.While generally true, I think “the media” does what I mentioned in order to “manufacture consent” in cases like this. They want to create the image of what is “real” and what “people you should believe” think. God forbid you should think for yourself and agree with a spooky spooky socialist, no no we need to make you afraid of him! We need you to believe that only “freeloaders” vote for him and “real taxpayers” will be hurt by him!
nah it terrifies tax dodgers and leeches of society
I appreciate that they say that employers don’t pay taxes.