Editing to delete all of this. I am getting real threats again, and I am not willing to have a complete mental collapse over fucking Lemmy for a 2nd time. Fuck this place. And especially fuck all of the transpose assholes bent on making my life hell. I am deleting my accounts permanently, but will leave the content up. Don’t worry, you won’t need to kill or doxx me, I intend to take care of the former myself.
Yeah they are also an Ai simp and just constantly stealing other people’s content.
just constantly stealing other people’s content
That’s what bothers me.
The constant reposts have made it more difficult to find the original content. At the very least put where it’s from in the body or something so I can look there
All of my crossposts should show in the cross post menu, OC is additionally tagged with the username
Like this:
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
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Fear of retaliation in the form of withheld support from dessalines or “slow walked” at the very least.
Has Dessalines actually done that? Its open source, so if .ml got an update, anyone could just take it back.
Edit: so that’s a no, just random fearmongering about Tankies.
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Ok, that’s fair. I really appreciated this explanation!
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
Wait, are people just getting mad at you because you crosspost from .ml instances? You are doing the Flying Sphaguetti Monster’s work.
Yea pretty much, .ml defenders or ideology aligned people for sure
There’s also a group on Lemmy who hate power posters and only want to see people that post handcrafted artisan posts and not articles or memes. Which is baffling because Lemmy/PieFed/Reddit are all of social media type known as link aggregators LMAO
Could users request to be added to your block list? Which you could copy over when creating new accounts.
Maybe a dumb one here but came to mind :)
The Lemmy blocking system is very half baked, possibly intentionally, and doesn’t work in this manner. Blocks on my side only prevent me from seeing them, but they will still see (and be able to interact with, which is the big problem with it) my posts/comments
Otherwise I would totally do this lol
proof that it is high time that an instance needs the ability to straight up perma ban a username
This wouldn’t solve the problem. They’d just roll in with cm0003. You need an IP ban or some similar source specific censorship. Even then, it’s a moving target when the end user is determined enough.
You need an IP ban or some similar source specific censorship
CG NAT and VPNs want to have a word with you.
OP did say:
Even then, it’s a moving target when the end user is determined enough.
This doesn’t need much determination. And especially with CG NAT you would IP ban not only one person, but a whole block or even district of persons.
Most trolls don’t even know what those are, though. And in my experience, making an account somewhere else is more effort than 99.9% put in already.
Yep, there’s at least two different people who are playing this sockpuppet game already. One went by, among other names, lucky8 and would only post think-tank political articles across dozens of communities - an actual propaganda account. Another appears to just repost reddit content onto Lemmy, they had a name similar to darnelle until they started picking other names.
These accounts stand out a lot more whenever you take a look at a specific-purpose instance like a country or subculture instance, rather than a large general-purpose instance like yours or mine. A lot of people complain because these sockpuppets flood an instance with propaganda or just off-topic junk.
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- Definitely not every post of theirs is upvoted (see links below). Do you have one that you feel like the voting for was probably fraudulent or something?
- He is vocally against lemmy.ml and reposts their content sometimes to encourage people to move off that server. What’s your take on that? Does he repost anything outside of that one example that you know of?
- Do people ban this person? Literally all he does is post, as far as I can tell… like I looked over the user pages 1 2 3 4 5 and it’s just kind of normal stuff to me.
- It’s a little weird that he has so many accounts. @cm0002@lemmy.zip why do you have so many accounts? It is a little weird and makes it more difficult for people who want to block you, I get that part of what OP is saying, just all the rest of it like you’re doing some kind of wild out-of-pocket thing by posting the stuff you post seems all the way out of left field to me.
I did notice the sudden influx of new accounts under the cm0002 name, I wasn’t entirely sure it’s actually the same guy or somebody impersonating him. I don’t see why he’d need that many, and most of the accounts are very new despite him having been around for a long time.
Oh, that’s a good point. @OP that is one reason for making it not work the way you describe, it makes it super-easy to destroy any user just by making new alts with their same name and then having them be obnoxious. IDK what the fix is really, it is a real problem that people can make alts to do ban evasion.
@cm0002@lemmy.world I should ask also, are all the described alts actually you?
Most are, but I have had an impersonation problem in the past, so there are a few imposter accounts mixed in there. This is another reason to have these accounts, prevention of it happening again.
Thats actually what I guessed was happening. Sometimes I make accounts on services I don’t use just to “reserve” the username.
It’s an old tactic to reserve your name on every server.
that sounds exhausting
I have reasons, I’ll just copy paste a previous response:
For other people blocking me, I don’t really care if they do or don’t, it’s just unfortunate unintended side effects for the actual reasons:
Shopping for a new home instance
Exploring the Threadiverse from different perspectives (the “hot” feed you see can vary quite a bit depending on the instance you’re on lol)
Learning that the bot intended to better interconnect instance comms may not be doing as good of a job
Interconnecting wayward or much smaller instances, a couple of them are missing even the big comms, one I was on the other day I needed to manual have it federate with every comm I posted to
For the creation of comms on fitting instances or just among a regular rotation of general instances so I’m not making a whole bunch on any one instance
Trolling .ml (or Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team. :::)
I’m just finally looking at those links that you list. Based on just the first couple of “quotes”, they’re not direct quotes but your interpretation of what they’re saying. I get it that you hate lemmy.ml and the Lemmy devs, but this is pretty poor behavior to claim that those are direct quotes.
“Uyghur atrocity propaganda equate birth control with genocide.” Is his literal words for the first one, some are memes and you almost have to interpret into a quote. How do you directly quote a meme?
Besides, here’s one that just happened earlier today, no quotes no interpretation other than saying what happened (banning people who call out Russian propaganda): https://lemmy.zip/post/53268068
And those are only highlights, the megathread has many MANY examples
Please explain how:
“It’s kinda funny because the evangelicals like Zenz peddling the Uyghur atrocity propaganda equate birth control with genocide. Plus many of them think that birth control also contributes to ‘the white genocide’”
that Dessalines wrote becomes:
“Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control!”?
How can you claim that that is a direct quote in your supposed dossier of Lemmy dev statements post that you keep spamming? It seems that many (most? all? I haven’t reviewed all of them yet) of your other “quotes” are similar in nature - your own radically distorted interpretation of what they said.
I would be careful if I were you, because you could be opening yourself up to be sued for libel in some jurisdictions. You could easily correct this by making it clear in your posts that those are not direct quotes from the devs but your own paraphrases and reinterpretations.
Saying every post was admittedly hyperbolic. Saying “many” would have been more appropriate I agree. I am well aware of the vendetta against ml. The point here is that even if someone attempts to ban or block them, the effort is immediately bypassed.
You literally wrote “every single post” in bold face lol
Yeah, I am pissed off and annoyed. I edited the post body.
None of my accounts have been banned from any instance or comm to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of .ml which they do because they don’t like me calling them out
Evading other users blocking me is not my intention and is just an unfortunate side effect. On the flip side, its not like it take any effort for one to block a user
A user, yes. But having to do it constantly as you continue to re-create accounts on every instance you can find is another matter.
The way your post was making it out to seem, “forces an instance to federate out” sounded like he was doing something so egregious that he was forcing instances to be defederated, sheesh. On the bright side, you’ve Barbara Streissanded his good work.
Nah, with every account you create and use to interact with another instance, the instance that you made that account on takes on the burden of all of the data associated with it including images etc. Making alts is a dick move. If you make your own instance and are happy with it, then navigate to and post to a large community on a large instance, your instance is going to get flooded with pictr and general db stuff. Don’t make alts.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about??
How would permablocking a certain username help? He’ll just change it. Not sure if IP bans are on the table, but those can be circumvented fairly trivially as well.
I can see how shadowbanning would help in such a case, but I’d rather not see such things on the platform at all if possible.
How would permablocking a certain username help?
It’s actually a pretty bad idea. Trolls would use it as a weapon. Argue with them and they’ll make an alt with your username then do stuff to get you (rather, your username) permabanned from Lemmy.
For other people blocking me, I don’t really care if they do or don’t, it’s just unfortunate unintended side effects for the actual reasons below. If I was really ban/block evading I’d just make up an entirely new user name each time, it would be FAR more effective and longer lasting.
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Shopping for a new home instance
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Exploring the Threadiverse from different perspectives (the “hot” feed you see can vary quite a bit depending on the instance you’re on lol)
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Learning that the bot intended to better interconnect instance comms may not be doing as good of a job
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Interconnecting wayward or much smaller instances, a couple of them are missing even the big comms, one I was on the other day I needed to manual have it federate with every comm I posted to
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For the creation of comms on fitting instances or just among a regular rotation of general instances so I’m not making a whole bunch on any one instance
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Prevention of a reoccurrence of my imposter problem
Trolling .ml (or Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team. :::)
I do feel like there’s a legitimate complaint to be had that since you’re doing heavy / automated posting, it would be good to pick one and only one instance/user to do it from just to be polite to people who don’t want that, and have it blocked.
I feel like all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that OP is doing isn’t necessary, since you’re obviously not intending it badly, but I do feel like there’s a grain of legitimacy somewhere in there.
Fair, though it’s definitely not automated. Heavy posting yes, automated no.
The absolute irony here is that I actually considered this perspective weeks ago, but I figured since you can block a user in 3 clicks or less straight from the encountered post the burden of anyone out there blocking me would be low and nbd. Ig not lmao
Well, but multiply that by the number of people who for one reason or another you just don’t want to see their content, and then multiply again by the number of instances you have your own accounts on, and I think it’s understandable for people not to want it to be multiplied again by some number of alt accounts for each poster.
It just shouldn’t be on the individual to have to invest effort every day into that kind of thing. If it’s one account, and you just don’t vibe with it, then fine. But if it turns into an ongoing project, I do get the irritation even if the amount of effort you’re being randomly required to activate at random times is quick and trivial. Like if you just got randomly resubscribed to communities sometimes that you had unsubscribed from, and then had to unsubscribe from them again, that’s not a lot of effort to do, but the amount of effort is not the point.
That’s the core of the issue summarized.
Another post where people complained about having to block new alts constantly: https://feddit.org/comment/9997824
Homie isn’t even using a script‽ Complete respect for the game!
Can you just make this easy for everyone, then, and create your own instance (which hosts the account from which all your heavy posting will come), and use your other accounts for whatever else you might want to do.
This:
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enables users or instances that may want to not interact with you to enact that effectively
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allows you to see posts from and post to every instance and community which reciprocates a desire to be connected with you (or at least which doesn’t want to not be connected with you)
All without putting the burden on others for your excessive account creation and posting.
I have no strong opinion about the user in question, but not everyone has the resources to host their own instance. In addition, from my understanding, even those who do might not be open to the burdens that come with doing so (regardless of whether they’re prolific posters).
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Hey! It’s that person they’re talking about! Seriously though, I appreciate your constant posting and keeping this site alive.
If I was really ban/block evading I’d just make up an entirely new user name each time, it would be FAR more effective and longer lasting.
Stop using logic.
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It’s the same thing with sunshine, pugjesus, and dude. I can’t fucking stand it. I don’t want to see the same 4 people posting because they’re on a manic upswing/addicted to the platform. I try to block their accounts but it seems like they have already spun up 4 more to submit from a different spot. It’s awful and devalues lemmy (for me). I would be better off never seeing their posts again.
I like that they’re putting more stuff out on the fediverse and pulling some focus away from .ml.
I just wish I had the time to do the same. We really need more people adding a wider mix of content.
It’s a script/bot, that’s how they have time.
It’s not, I have stated many times in the past. The only automation is a push notification I get about a new post
If you have to tell users across your many accounts you’re not a bot, it’s you and not them.
It’s an age old argument from long before I had left .world and had a bunch of alts. Even before I started crossposting .ml. A lot of power posters end up being accused of being a bot by a certain minority of users lmao
A certain minority? Genuinely curious who it was. I don’t know how to ask without seeming like a sealion or something else “debate bro”.
Just that there’s a group of users who are anti-power posters for sure who really hate seeing the same users posting for some reason. I have someone who blocks me because I apparently post…phoronix…a tad too much for their liking lmao
I think people like PugJesus are great because they bring here the content we need?
Yes, but in addition to the history memes and other good and unique content, PugJesus also isn’t a tankie, and sometimes even argues vocally with tankies. cm0002 is the same.
I suspect that’s what’s actually behind this: Some kind “Mean Girls” effort to damage someone’s reputation because they are giving wrongthink to the community. Maybe I’m paranoid. At face value, though, the whole thing of “HOW DARE YOU PUT MEMES IN MY MEME COMMUNITY EVERY DAY ARGBLGRBGLRBG I’M SO ANGRY NOW” makes so little sense that I think it’s safe to assume that something else is the reason.
I think having a specific beef with tankies and going out of your way to aggravate them instead of just putting them on block says quite a lot about a person living in the second rise of fascism
He spends more trolling Tankies and being a redditor about online debates than he does doing anything about fascism.
But you ask his favorite political party to do more to stop fascism, he’ll ban you from every community he mods, even if you weren’t saying it in any of them.
He hates leftists more than he hates the fascists in office that impact his life then terminally online Tankies who LARP as revolutionaries.
He also scans his username often on Lemmy, so I’m sure before the end of the week he’ll demand you reply to him as he bans you. Or he’ll stalk public discord and matrix servers and then say they’re obsessed with him.
I don’t think he’s going out of his way to aggravate them. I think he’s encouraging other people to not interact with them and calling attention to some of their bad behavior. I do think that makes sense. Some people care a lot about the truth, and it’ll really aggravate them to have people being hostile and dishonest all over their social network, posting propaganda, attacking or banning anyone who disagrees with them, just generally being cocks. They’ll want to “fix” it or at least draw attention to it as a problem. That makes sense to me.
Maybe it is a little extra to even care about these weird text-only networks to that extent… but I do get it. It makes sense to me. He’s not just doing it for no reason. And yes, that is important in or out of fascism. Having at least one little electronic network where people can talk about these things and not have to be banned or attacked if they say the wrong thing does seem like an important thing, maybe more so the more that truth is under attack on the outside.
I don’t think he’s going out of his way to aggravate them
He’s made multiple communities about them and then links to the communities/posts, then also does it in other communities.
And how many communities and posts has he made about fascists? A few posts, no communities.
How many about terminally online weirdos who think LARPing as revolutionaries and simping for Stalin? It’s about 50% of his posts when he’s not making memes about Rome like a Xitter user.
Lol you’re overthinking it. I just don’t want a single user dominating my feed, that’s really all.
And you confused not wanting one user to dominate your feed with “this fuckwqd” “this shitty behavior” “shitty, bad faith action” “Then every single post from every one of these account is very heavily upvoted. Oh, that isn’t suspicious at all” “also an Ai simp” “Maybe some kind of probation could help?” “reflects extremely poorly on lemmy/threadiverse in general that this type of behaviour is tolerated at all let alone encouraged” and so on and so on.
You guys need to chill the fuck out lmao. He’s posting stuff. That’s what Lemmy is for. I get the complaint about doing it from different accounts if he’s going to be a heavy poster of this perfectly normal content he is posting, I can agree with that part of it. But you guys can’t be going fucking mental like he’s trying to summon Cthulu in the basement and must be stopped at all costs, and then all of a sudden turn around like “calm down bro you’re overthinking it’s just not that serious” when people are trying to figure out what caused this towering issue about it.
I mean, that’s cool. I just prefer my feed to feel more organic from a broader user base. Different strokes for different folks. That’s what is cool about lemmy - you don’t need to have the same cookie cutter experience. Block who you want and consume submissions from people you enjoy. More power to ya if you’re into it. All good brother.
I feel like you need to be directing this calming energy at this guy. I’m perfectly calm, I was making jokes.
this guy
Nah. Not a guy.
Got 'em 😉😘
So flooding communities with low effort reposted content is what we need?
I don’t have a problem with people posting a lot, but people making over a dozen accounts as frequently as every 2 days pisses me off.
How do you feel about that Sludge fella, though?
overrated
Yeah, me too, I hate when people post things lol
Like every time I see a history picture in the feed I’m like ARGHH FUCK THIS GAH GLU BO and I start chewing the furniture
Are you being obtuse on purpose? You can’t see how creating additional accounts could be annoying?
Here’s an example. I subscribe to !technology@lemmy.zip, and cm0002 has posted (or reposted and I have the originating community filtered out, possibly) from three different servers in the past two days.
I get that federation means you can switch accounts easily but it can be kind of annoying.
Is that what PugJesus is doing? I thought he had one account on lemmy.world and then made one on piefed.social and posts more or less the same stuff from both which is generally pretty benign at least in my worldview.
I do kind of get what you’re saying, sure. Overall I think the problem of people making new accounts to get around ban evasion is a serious problem. I even checked out https://sh.itjust.works/ to see what you’re talking about, and yeah I get it, there’s a bunch of meme posts from cm0002 high up in the feed and I get how that could be annoying if that’s not your thing. I guess I don’t subscribe to the meme communities, so maybe that’s why I’m just befuddled by the idea that someone could be this bent out of shape about those particular users.
That’s what’s confusing to me about it: There are users on Lemmy who go out of their way to be obnoxious and make it difficult for people to block them, or post content that’s malicious in some way. I don’t see anyone on your list as being like that. They’re just posting stuff. IDK, you can also try out scaled sort which aims to give a more balanced feed without the “big name” communities dominating so much.
I guess I do agree with you, actually, about it being a problem overall people making new accounts and making it difficult for people who just don’t want to see their stuff. That’s why I asked cm0002 why he’s made so many accounts, I kind of get that aspect of it, you shouldn’t have to answer anyone’s questions if you just don’t want to see someone’s content. I just don’t get where this vitriol comes from about it. Like in the link I showed, he’s posting memes in a meme community and then people are upvoting them, and so they show up. I don’t get where the “ARGH HE’S RUINING LEMMY MAKE HIM STOP MAKE HIM STOP” part is coming from in that equation.
I guess I don’t subscribe to the meme communities
Same. But I do subscribe to a lot of technical communities where the cm0002 collective reposts, and that can get annoying.
I just don’t get where this vitriol comes from about it.
It’s actually really easy to understand. You said so yourself: ban evasion is annoying.
But, like, we are in a “rant” community. The original poster seems annoyed.
You don’t have to understand it at all. This isn’t yptb.
Yeah, me too, I hate when people post things lol
Like every time I see a history picture in the feed I’m like ARGHH FUCK THIS GAH GLU BO and I start chewing the furniture
Why come to a rant community and be sarcastic and condescending? The ranting is why they’re here.
You said so yourself: ban evasion is annoying.
Is cm0002 banned somewhere? Are they using new accounts to evade those bans in places they’ve been banned?
But, like, we are in a “rant” community. The original poster seems annoyed.
You don’t have to understand it at all. This isn’t yptb.
I do feel like if your “rant” is very specifically directed at some other specific person, and also seems factually untrue in a few different respects, then it’s worth asking some questions. Just because it’s a rant doesn’t mean it’s exempt from people having a reaction.
Why come to a rant community and be sarcastic and condescending?
Because it’s my way of making a point. In some societies, when someone aims criticism and vitriol at another human being, other people are allowed to defend that person or ask questions and see if it’s justified.
Because it’s my way of making a point.
Like a jerk? Gross! I don’t need that. No one needs that. See how you got downvoted for being condescending? No, you don’t. I love a guy who’s “just asking questions” in a shitty way.
“But they’re just posting!” Obtuse and rude. Neat!
“Vitriol.” Lmao
Edit: I knew eventually this would get downvoted more than upvoted! The assholes always come out of the woodwork on social media, it’s simply a matter of time.
Like every time I see a person not acting like a jerk I’m like ARGHH FUCK THIS GAH GLU BO and I start downvoting the comments
“Hey this guy’s a big piece of shit. I can’t even tell you what a piece of shit, I’m so angry, he’s total garbage, he’s the absolute worst and fuck him, we need to get rid of him.”
“What? I’ve never found this specific person you’re going after to be a piece of shit. Why do you say that? (specific questions and sarcasm)”
“Woooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww”
You seem lovely lol
(I’m going to take your response to mean he’s not actually banned anywhere)
No that’s the other fed
I think the broader solution is approval-based instance federation. I know that’s a little anti-fed, but this type of attack has no other solution I can think of, and banning a username just means the attacker rotates those, (too).
There’s steps in between. Rate limiting unverified server federations, etc. No need to inhibit discovery for casual users
I have a similar setup here. Isn’t ban evasion more effective when you don’t reuse a username? Also I see this person’s posts on the top most days, what exactly are they getting banned for?
I’m using multiple instance handles like they’re subreddit clusters, which is why I didn’t bother changing my name. Seems like something that people who check a lot of different comms of different sizes do
The cm bot also blindly reposts content. There have been a number of times it has posted something or has already shared in the same community, or what they posted was cross posted to an ml community and they shared it back to the original community.
Whether it really is a bot or not, it acts like an unmarked bot account.
I always sort by new, so if I see a post from a cm_bot I know if I scroll a little bit I will see the original. And since I have almost all ml communities blocked I see it on other instances already.
Banning a username doesn’t solve the problem tho - you can create new accounts anyway. And banning accounts with similar names as well creates all kinds of problems.
Maybe some kind of probation could help? For example, a user could be invisible for everyone but their home instance for some time. If they are then reported and banned, they never appear on another instance to begin with. Could do this for both comments and content.
Lmao that would make even less ppl join this site and make it even less useful, if you think lemmy will ever be as useful as reddit, it cant have ppl on instances post invisible to other instances when they join that will just make them head to the larger instances or be even more confused on where to sign up
You do realize that (some) subs on Reddit block new users as well?
Probation period doesn’t sound like a bad idea. But in the end it will just force them to make their bots lay low for the time and then start their main program.
As far as I can tell, they are providing a valuable, wanted, service. It’s unfortunate that it’s impacting you negatively somehow, but I think people would prefer that they keep it up.
Is what they are doing bothering you, or did you just misunderstand the point of their behaviour, and assumed something malicious was going on?
The “service” has negative value. All it accomplishes is spam, doubling or quadrupling posts, and making every single user of a large instance out to be a tankie. There is also no shot it isn’t just a script or bot being run unless they themselves spend an insane amount of time on ml making the while “boycott” thing horseshit to begin with.
And at this point, random instances are being starved of resources by the account spam (the federation takes disk space and bandwidth).
making every single user of a large instance out to be a tankie.
I have not done this once, please provide receipts on this. I have very specifically been against the admins of .ml and select provable Tankie users of .ml
There is also no shot it isn’t just a script or bot being run unless they themselves spend an insane amount of time on ml
Well it isn’t, for one, the activity levels on .ml just isn’t that busy. For 2, I don’t personally watch .ml, I just have a hook into the RSS feed and just get a notification on my phone. Takes me <15 seconds to crosspost a post. Couldn’t bot it even if I wanted to, I have to be extremely selective because there’s always a propaganda post of some kind.
making the while “boycott” thing horseshit to begin with.
If people didn’t want it they wouldn’t upvote it. It’s that simple. You don’t get to speak for others.
Hijacking this comment. If you find their service valuable, you should consider using this social media site, it is home to much more content and behavior similar to what cm0002 post and do here on Lemmy!
Yup, also have 30 blocks for this username
cm0002 is a cryptofash who likes to hang out with other like minded individuals and complain about communists like it’s his full time job
using lemmy.ml means I almost never have to interact with him, I don’t even have to bother to block him
ewwwwww he responded to me
Lol, tankies are authoritarians
As documented in the Megathread here
Some highlights:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
