• Diddlydee@feddit.uk
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    11 days ago

    I have at least 3 of these. They’re hardly rare. I think it’s just you.

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      11 days ago

      I’ve wondered the same as OP and never saw one in real life.

      Probably it’s a regional thing, like how in some countries (as I recently discovered) they don’t know what a cheese slicer is and just butcher cheese with a knife.

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          The texture and flavour of a hard cheese cut with a cheese slicer is different from when one cuts with a knife. I like both but on a sandwich the cheese slicer wins every time.

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              The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I’ve eaten both, side by side, because it’s a really interesting difference. A cheese slicer makes a wafer thin piece of cheese that I cannot replicate with a knife. It is not a skill issue either. A chainsaw and a fretsaw produce different results, regardless of the skill of the user.

              However you’ve decided that your reckoning is better than my experience, which is astonishingly arrogant.

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          Cutting the type of cheese you use a slicer on, with a knife, compresses the cheese more. Young cheese is solid, but too fatty and soft to really easily slice through. You can ofcourse, but the quality of your slice will not be similar to the easily and reproducible quality you get with a slicer. Especially if you need many slices.

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              “Instead of getting the tool designed specifically for the thing, just get a different tool that isn’t designed for the thing, and then learn to make really precise difficult cuts!”

              I come from a big cheese area, and genuinely, no. A sharper knife isn’t the problem, the surface area of the blade is the problem. Even an oiled ceramic knife doesn’t cut cleanly through many cheeses (ceramic is extremely sharp, oiling is to attempt to prevent buckling and breaking because the cheese sticks to the blade). A wire cheese slicer is consistent, and safe and easy enough for a child to use (I know because that was my first experience with one, around 5-6).

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                  9 days ago

                  Whilst my knife is unlikely to be sharp enough, I don’t have the hand skills to shave a 0.6mm wafer of cheddar off a block even with the best knife. My fine motor skills are excellent and I’m a professional miniature sculptor and have particular preferences on which specific scalpel blades I like to work with! My point being that I have significantly above average skills and that’s not sufficient.

                  If you happen to have the tools and skill to shave cheese that way, fantastic, well done you, but that’s an extremely uncommon set of circumstances. As you say, most people’s knives aren’t up to the task. Meanwhile even a child can use a cheese slicer to get a decent slice off a block.

                  …and yes, I did go and grab some calipers to check because I’m tired of this insane discussion. If you feel they’re a useless kitchen gizmo, cool, but lots of us love our cheese slicers because they’re tremendously useful and accessible.

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              No. There’s different types of tools for different types of cheese. Don’t get one if you only need it once. But a good slicer is as cheap as a decent short kitchen knife (€10).

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          10 days ago

          People are pretty handy if they can make those long and thin slices of softer cheese with a knife

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        Of course you had to be Dutch. I swear, all my Dutch friends have like 3 of those an a couple of those electric grills with mini pans for melting cheese below

        In all fairness, the slicer isn’t even useful for all cheeses. It’s convenient for Edam and similar ones though.

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          The cheese slicer is a great Norwegian invention and much used in all the Nordics. And The Netherlands. And Germany?

          I think it mostly boils down to “what is cheese” to you. If you think you can even have an argument about whether you should cut “cheese” with a cheese slicer, then you come from a place where they make sense.

          In my fridge I’ve got parmigiano, gorgonzola dolce and I just finished a rare piece of emmenthal. A slicer would have been useful only with the last one of those.

          But my sandwiches! I hear all my fellow northerners cry. They’re great with brie or toma. No slicer needed.

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      9 days ago

      I’ve got one; bought on a whim at the local farmer’s market from a beekeeper. I kind of hate it though.

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    So once upon a time, you actually got honey at the market replenishing your pot, rather than buying jars in the supermarket.

    This thing was always in the pot, and you did not use a spoon to get your honey, it works better than a spoon and you just leave it in the pot.

    Today americans probably bleach their jars, spoons and bees, but honey is surprisingly shelf stable, having a pot with a little hole with this little plunger sticking out is fine really.

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    You keep slowly rotating it as you move it from the honey to whatever you’re going to put the honey in so the viscous liquid essentially “orbits” this thing instead of dripping onto your countertop. Then when over the target you stop rotating and let it pour off.

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        Why, when this thing makes it easier? Unless you have a spoon with a round handle.

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        Sure, and that general purpose tool works fine. This is just the tool specifically designed for honey. It’s not necessary, just useful.

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          I find it excruciating to wait before the right dose of honey gets on my bread or into my tea. You have to let it drip - right? Or was I using it wrong? Therefore I prefer either a spoon or a knife. I also don’t let the jar open so I can’t keep the honey dripper in it and it’s quite wasteful if you should clean it everytime. And there’s no way to use it on cristalized honey, which has otherwise a very good texture for putting on bread. That’s why I gave up on using it. Did I overlook some major adventage? I still have it somewhere and I’m willing to give it another try.

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    10 days ago

    Check out this fucking neanderthal, doesn’t even have a Syrup Schlorper.

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    I own two of them. They are great for honey.

    I’m guessing the people who don’t use them aren’t into honey. Like, maybe they have a little honey bear that’s crusty in the back of their pantry.

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    You can buy them in every cutlery section in my country. But it’s kind of useless, I’m not sure why this is the design that is associated with honey. A spoon works better.

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      You can rotate this as it’s dripping to manage the flow due to the grooves which you can’t do with a spoon. It’s for when you only want a few drops at a time or a reasonably uniform drizzle.

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          No more than you wash off a spoon.

          The dipper is meant to stay in the honey pot, so you’re not wasting any, except maybe the last time you use it, or if you’re pointlessly cleaning it each time.

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            I’m very confused, can’t you just leave a spoon in the honeypot as well? Like, I’ve literally done this before, dipped a spoon in to our honey jar, spun it around to keep it from dripping, put the amount I wanted in my cup of tea, and put the spoon back in the jar. But usually I just get whatever amount I want on my spoon and then I stir my tea with it. It gets 100% of the honey off, I get to stir my tea to mix the honey in, and I get the exact amount I want, no guessing needed.

            I mean if you like the dipper then you go for it, but I don’t really see the advantage here, even with usability, maybe just a tad easier to spin.

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                  most stainless steel is not true stainless steel and instead simply stains less. to deal with the low pH environment of honey (4 pH), you would need a high performance stainless steel or alloy to avoid leaching flavor from the alloy into the honey. most cutlery is 416 which will corrode under the conditions of being in honey. true silver, i think, would be fine in that environment, but i wouldn’t want to put a spoon in honey without being confident it was a higher performance compound than 416, and at that point i could just get a cheap dipper

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          You put it back in the pot of honey, the thing is supposed ot perpetually sit in honey pot.

          I don’t like it either, just explaining how it’s supposed to work.

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            So you need to put it in a special pot every time?Honey is sold in jars and they don’t have a cutout for it.

            Unless you just leave it open for flies.

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              No, a proper honeypot has a lid with a little notch at the edge to accommodate the honey …thing…? I dunno, I’ve used them a lot but I don’t know what they’re called.

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                I’ve always called them honey dippers, or just a dipper.

                Not that I own one but have used one, the people who do own then know exactly what I meant.

                Funnily enough I have no idea what the people who had them that call them

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                Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. So every time you open a jar of honey you have to pour it into a special honeypot which has the correct lid.

                So even more wasted honey gets left behind in the jar you bought it in.

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                  My guy bout to start a legal non-profit to pursue and convict honey abusers.

                  “No honey left behind. Every drop needs a home. We stole it from the bees, but I’ll be damned if I let the flies have it next!”

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                  No more than would be wasted when you finish that jar anyway. Nobody is getting all the honey out. Gravity will do all it can and the wastage is minimal.

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    I should save this comments section for when I need examples of why social media should be banned. A ton of people being dicks to each other over whether they use a honey dripper or a teaspoon.

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      These are the same people that got their knickers in a twist about microwaving water for tea. Logic is not found in these types, only vibes.

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        I know what you mean but also there is a viseral vibe around microwaving water in particular that feels very caveman coded in the weirdest way.

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            I’m aware but there’s this weird visceral unga bunga energy to it. It’d be like using a diesel generator to farm crypto it just feels fucking weird.

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            You shouldn’t microwave water though, because there’s a chance that it could be superheated to the boiling point without looking like it and that can be dangerous.

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              A really small chance that is only somewhat significant for distilled water and can be very easily mitigated by lightly tapping a teaspoon for a test.

              I do this everyday. The danger is not knowing but it’s not really riskier than being splashed by boiling water because you poured it too hard from a kettle.

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          I think you got that backwards - the caveman is the one scared of the microwave and its spooky woo-woo magic that damages the water’s aura

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          Just tasted some of my latest gallon of mead and I really just want to drink it now. But its not really ready. Absolutely could drink it but its still opaque as its full of yeast suspended in the mead.

          And yet you get people that say you need to age it for months or even years. Clearly I have lower standards, mine has just about finished fermenting.

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            Now I really want to drink it and I don’t even have it :) Do you make a plain one or do you add any spices?

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              Plain, not experimented with spices yet but probably should look into it sometime.

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    it’s sold in every souvenir shop of stuff made with olive tree wood in Greece. and it’s a stupid device, so much honey stays stuck in it after using it, absolutely not worth it

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    I have a honey pot with one of those that somebody gave me as a gift.

    I tried to use it one time to be fancy when I made biscuits, and put it in the middle of the table during dinner. At first people tried to use it, but it was such a fucking pain in the ass, eventually they just stopped trying to be nice about it used a spoon to get the honey bc wtf is the point?

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      Well it does keep the honey not dripping if rotated, and works nicely if the honey is applied to hot water (as if you don’t, the honey will never leave those stripey grooves).