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      Yeah maybe he’s stuck mentally to be some teenager with some sort of learning disorder and really needs that hundred+ years to grasp things

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    I cannot imagine wanting to spend time with children after being around for hundreds of years!

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        Maturity comes from life experience and plenty of people mature very quickly in periods of adversity, while their peers linger in childhood or adolescence because there’s no stressors propelling them onward.

        I should note that “maturity” isn’t some kind of universal good, either. A person regularly subjected to physical violence will learn coping mechanisms to avoid or endure that abuse. They’ll come out with these reflexes and responses that other adults can read as “mature”. But I wouldn’t say they’re better for it.

        Similarly, people who endure poverty have to learn mature habits as a method of survival far sooner than their wealthier peers - how to provide food and shelter for yourself, how to navigate social bureaucracies, how to operate motor vehicles safely. But the techniques they adopt - lying, stealing, driving without any formal training - aren’t condusive to a safe neighborhood or a functional social network.

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        Ya, but your life experiences change you and the way you think. If you’re software developer it becomes really difficult to watch any show with “hacking” in it. Firefighters and other first responders find it really difficult to watch anything that involves “rescue”. There’s a YouTuber with over 5 million subs who got his start on YouTube by being a firefighter who made fun of firefighting shows.
        Now magnify that be a couple hundred years. Your experiences, the things you would have lived through, the basic changes in technology, the world and just the way people live… Your way of thinking would be so radically different from someone who’s only experiences have been in school, parents, and modern life that it would be insanity try to pretend to be one.
        I have enough trouble finding common ground and stuff to talk about with those old friends of mine that decided to never have kids or buy a house. I can’t even conceive of how I would go about “blending” in with high schoolers for the rest of eternity.

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      Well cancer isn’t really a disease in the sense that other illnesses are so it might be worth figuring out incase there’s a chance you could end up as a giant suffering blob of immortal tumour.

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      Because an immortal is likely to have formed connections with mortals that died of cancer. Als, if their friends live longer, they need to start from scratch less often. Another way to archive that is to befriend a family for generations.

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        To an immortal, it probably wouldn’t make much of a difference. Either they die from cancer or they survive but then die anyways a few decades later. Plus, vampires have ways of extending someone’s life without any medical science anyways.

        Though some lores for Dracula had him very deep and advanced in science as well as magic, so it’s possible he did have a cure for cancer but just didn’t care to share it because humans are just livestock to him.

    • Be a good way to secure enough money to never have people questioning why you’re never seen in daylight and have been around for so long without looking like you’ve aged.

      Except… Aren’t the vampires in those books/movies able to be in the sun? That’s when you see them sparkle, isn’t it?

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      would an immortal be exempt from having cancer?

      biologically speaking cancer itself is immortal. I suppose that would mean if an immortal person had cancer, their tumors would be numerous and grotesque.

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        But treating cancer might be more straightforward, taking out more than you need to and just let the healing take care of putting correct tissue back.

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          but maybe the trauma of removing it causes more cancer to manifest? it’s not unusual for traumatic injuries to cause cancer to start.

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      Shit and giggles. Id ssy itd make more sense to invest your infinate time on something more interesting than teenagers.

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    I remember I did actually talk to a teenage girl about that (it was many, many years ago) and she still insisted ‘but it’s hot though’.

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    It has been years now since I saw the first half of the first movie, but I think I remember that his dad is an actual doctor.

    So isn’t he the one that should have focused on that?

    (not that I believe an immortal being would be any better than the researchers we have now)

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      I can’t remember specifics, but I feel like he was… And his “children” that look school age just go to school for a few years in each location they live so they can better blend in. Although honestly he may only have been a doctor so he could steal blood easily, now that I’m thinking about it. I read and watched them all in their heyday, didn’t leave much of a mark on me clearly.

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        It was a major plot point that none of the ones in Edward’s “family” drank human blood. You could tell if a given vampire did or didn’t based on their eye color. Human blood made them red.

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      anyone with ample free time that does not devote their life to the active pursuit of knowledge or bettering their craft is a waste of space

      I wonder if vampire brains freeze mentally once they’re turned

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          Of course it is their decision, but they are still capable of making good and bad decisions. If Hitler was an immortal, no doubt he’d be spending his time badly, in my opinion. Better yet and more current, imagine an immortal Trump…

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          whilst I agree, I do judge anyone who sits on their hands for a 100 years not wanting to learn more about their existence

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          Would vampires be people anymore? I feel like if they have to feast on me, that kinda separates us, but a vampire with human values could easily be considered people if they feed of donated blood, for example, requiring no major changes to current laws. In any case, I would have to think about them in the context.

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          (I love that someone wrote an anime vibing off a bunch of Creepy Nuts songs)

          Also, to be pedantic, neither of them are strictly vampires - they’re something else

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        I wonder if vampire brains freeze mentally once they’re turned

        “Vampire: The Masquerade” has that as a downside of being a vampire. Vampires are less creative than humans, to the point that being turned into a vampire is said to hurt their talent worse than aging ever could. They also can’t properly adapt to new technology. Basically, vampirism comes with creative sterility.

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          There is a way around it which is basically vampire enlightenment wherein for example they can survive for months off of a drop of blood. Also I think they can reclaim their humanity eventually. Frankly I don’t know jack for shit for World of Darkness, I’ve played Bloodlines (fuck that hotel) and watch Hunter: The Parenting.

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      Didn’t Interview With The Vampire answer this question? I mean if we take it as part of the vampire canon then the brain does develop further as that little girl was mentally a full ass grown woman trapped in a child’s body

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          Anne Rice’s vampires were different from others. Their skin and hair would become magically perfect, I don’t even think Claudia had curly hair as a mortal, the “spirit” that inhabited all vampires wanted them to be goddamn beautiful. Also the male vampires had perpetual erections, but their rapturous pleasure of all the other senses made sex impossible to feel, no desire beyond also wanting beautiful things. Anne Rice was a bit weird. And I’m not even getting into the Sleeping Beauty series, I can’t really describe that without getting into CSAM.

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            Someone else mentioned Sleeping Beauty the other week too. Gave up after chapter 2. Still curious how that is allowed in text, but if that was as a picture, then that’s straight to jail.

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    Vampire can live long life but they are decisivly a very mortal creature of fiction.