So never buy OnePlus products. Got it. Thanks OnePlus for making the advice so clear!
That’s what I heard. I know Samsung has been doing something like this as well.
Samsung has been blowing fuses in your phone when you root since at least 2015. I know because it happened to me. Never bought one again after that.
Yep, Samsung Knox is the feature name; does it actually prevent things or is it just “tamper evidence” for corporate devices?
It’s the blanket name for their security architecture. The thing that makes sure your kernel is blessed, tries teo tell if you’re rooted, then sets a fuse flag if anything is off. It also provides a secure, encrypted profile for your phone that bifurcates apps, data, blocks screenshots. The data from the flag is available to apps to tell that your phone is potentially insecure. For the most part, they only block Samsung banking/pay apps and make your secure partition inaccessible.
My next phone will be something degoogled. hopefully something linux.
I’ve already wiped an old disconnected android phone for use with my drone/cameras that require a mobile device.
Samsung just does it to trigger Knox and not let you use some security minded things on the phone.
They also, however, have their phones pretty much impossible to root anymore. I don’t think most ever get a custom rom, because pretty much no one can get a Samsung phone to except one. I believe my old Note 20 Ultra is still not rootable.
For me I found out when I wanted them to fix something and they refused to honour the warranty because of the blown fuse.
As far as I know, this is illegal, btw. They have to prove that the error you are reporting is caused by user action. If your battery craps out, they can’t blame it on you rooting your phone.
I’d love to put a custom OS on mine, even if it tripped the Knox fuse (which disables the Samsung Pay NFC option). The issue I have is that no CFW allows / guarantees compatible VoLTE…and without that, phones don’t really work on Australian networks. Have to have 4G + white listed VoLTE.
Its a mess down here.
Ironically, my Duoquin F21 pro works perfectly. How they got white listed I have no idea
Yeah, this was the case shortly after they release of model 5T or around thst time. That’s when they stopped being the only company that would provide instructions to root your device, and guess what… Back then, if you rooted your device the warranty was still valid!
Wow, what happened to OnePlus? They used to be so cool. Hell, the first one ran Cyanogen.
They’re basically being folded into Oppo right now. OnePlus as a company is pretty much dead.
“Open” once again being abused as angle to build something for an exit. It sounds like.
what has happened, indeed. I still use an 8T and I love it heavily, but good lord. apparently you miss a few models and the whole company changes.
they saw GOOGLE was trying to lockdown thier bootloader, or restrict it.
So they said, “Nuh uh, we’re gonna lock it down so you can’t!” Or am I misunderstanding?
It’s more an “if everyone is doing it why not us” type of thing.
It’s not flashing a custom ROM. It is installing an OS of users choice. Enemy’s language shouldn’t be used if we want things to change
This is why “side load” is annoying to me. It’s installing. It is not special or different. They aren’t “blocking side loading” they’re “restricting what you can install.”
I’m 100% okay with how my Samsung Galaxy handles it: You access the Developer mode by pressing on the phone info screen in the settings for several seconds, and then there’s a switch that allows execution of random .apk files.
“Yes, do as I say.”
There was talk about Google changing this, but I’m not sure if that was something that would only affect Pixel phones or all of Android as an ecosystem. Well, to be specific, the change is to not let people run unsigned APKs at all and devs can only get them signed by giving their identification to Google.
I think they’re testing out different regions to see if they’ll get sued before trying to do this globally
Wasn’t OnePlus like worshipped because of how much support for custom ROMs wth
The original “One” phone was even supposed to run cyanogemod out of the box at one point.
It was shipped with Cyanogenmod for a while.
Yes they were and did for about 6 years, 2014-2020ish isn’t a bad run
If true, this is sabotage of the customers product, and must 100% be illegal in almost any country!!
But my guess is they are limiting this to countries that have absolute shit consumer protection.Things are illegal only when enforced. Otherwise they’re a suggestion at best.
That’s part of how shitty the consumer protection really is.
But common for all, there needs to be complaints before the law is involved.
…oh? I thought every console used this kind of tech as well.
So are console sold with the possibility of changing the OS, only to have that option removed later? There was some issue with PS3, but apart from that I never heard about it.
Ooooh, okay, now I understand. I was referring to the way modern consoles blow a fuse with each new patch so you can’t load older patches.
But yeah, the PS3 removed the ability to boot Linux which it was explicitly advertised to have and it was a huge thing at the time.
consoles blow a fuse with each new patch so you can’t load older patches.
Admittedly I was unaware of this, but for consoles it can have a real functional purpose as part of the protection against cheating.
No, this is done to ensure there’s no competition when selling games. Why do you think console games are pricier than PC ones? On PC we still have some competition.
It’s an anti-piracy/homebrew feature. Realistically, nobody is using that for cheating.
“…long enough to become the villain.”
Holy shit. I wanted to say something constructive, but just…. holy shit. Intentional hard brick of a customer owned device….
That means they were making money by people running their os.
If they spend the money on re-engineering their devices not to allow it, there was a cost advantage to selling your data.
Many users were buying OpenPlus Pro smartphones solely because of the ability to unlock the bootloader and flash custom ROMs. People value freedom and customization. OpenPlus is shooting itself in the foot.
Oppo killed and ate OP a long time ago. They’ve just been wearing their skin like a suit up to this point, but their true nature is obvious at this point.
This is why I bought a pixel 6
This will never stop being funny
Sadly, at least in the North American market, Google’s Pixel phones are basically the last good phones you can reliably install your own ROM on.
What a sad world.
I also went with a pixel 6a with grafeneos because there are no other good options for me.
I would have preferred fairphone 6 + calyx but that is on hiatus and I couldn’t wait longer.
I increasingly small amount of their userbase cares about that now, its a mainstream device now
“OnePlus shoots own foot. Likely to blame consumers for it”
I bought a OP 9Pro just before Oppo decimated the company. They moved from Oxygen OS to a poorly camouflaged version of Oppo Color OS and stripped out some of the features that made Oneplus what it was. Oppo also almost completely stopped fixing bugs, even some really serious ones that had been long documented. I recently bought a new phone and didn’t even consider
OneplusOppo.It seems to me that the only reason Oppo would do this is to preserve the revenue they get from selling customer data that should remain private. Otherwise why would Oppo care what OS people run on their hardware?
Hi, could you share what phone you bought? I’m looking for a replacement in the near future and I want to get a headstart on the research.
Bought a Pixel 10. After the last few days I’d only give it a C- review. Google uses their customers as beta testers and leaves all kinds of ridiculous bugs for their customers to deal with. The hardware is nice overall, but Android 16 needs lots of work. This is probably the reason so many Google employees refuse to use Android and buy Iphones.
The bugs Google has knowingly released include a broken volume control that requires the screen to be unlocked and the application be open for some applications, sleep schedules not working reliably, “helpful” nags ignoring the sleep schedule and waking me up in the middle of the night. Last night it was their “Find Hub” (renamed from “Find my Device” for some reason) waking me at 1:30AM to let me know I should set it up. A week ago it was my phone warning me at 3AM that Location was turned off and Accident Detection would not work. There have been more and right now I’m wishing I bought an Iphone. Google doesn’t deserve our business.
In better times, this would at least get a class action.
so it basically permanently “damages” the phone when you try to root it, seems like they are asking for a lawsuit at some point.
One plus joined my short list of “I can’t be bothered” companies like Samsung and Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo and some other sub par companies.
And all that while OnePlus was awesome up until the OnePlus 7 pro.
I had the 5t until last year and it was still awesome.
OnePlus is owned by Oppo, so that’s applied for a while. Now they’re just making it clearly known
Another company to add to the list.
They have already collapsed and won’t be making phones anymore
Wow I didn’t think my list would take effect so quickly!
