EDIT: A rough timeline of events here:
- In 2024, a user noticed this odd traffic on their local network, took a screenshot of the graph, and posted it to Twitter
- After discussing the issue with other Twitter users, the original poster realized that this graph was actually a mistake with their router or something. This reporting software was reporting some other device’s network traffic as being the washing machine’s traffic. The washing machine was actually only using a reasonable amount of data.
- Despite this past revelation, in 2026, someone put together a “meme” of sorts comparing past predictions of the future to that 2024 graph
- For whatever reason, that “meme” was put through AI post-processing of some sort. Was the attempt to “upscale” this image after it had been passed around and been automatically compressed down by various platforms? Was it someone using some newfangled AI-assisted compression technique in an attempt to create a smaller file size than any of the more traditional compression techniques? No idea. For whatever reason, it seems someone put it through some sort of AI post-processing that left the image with some nonsense text on the graph portion.
- I saw this “meme” and decided to share it here without scrutinizing the text on the graph. As mentioned in my first point, this graph was originally posted years ago, so I was already familiar with it and did not feel the need to read into it in the image I was sharing. I felt safe assuming it was just the same graph that I remember seeing years back.
- After users here called out the nonsense text, I just recreated the “meme” from scratch. I grabbed the original screenshot of the graph from Twitter and a stock photo of clouds, and just placed some text on the image so that this is more-or-less the same exact “meme”, but without the AI gibberish
What is a washing machine doing that adds up to 3.7 gigs of data, per DAY? How many loads it does? How long it sits before it gets emptied? Why would anyone even care?
the hell? why the fuck a washing machine needs a wifi for? to google how to wash clothes?
Related: a criminal group managed to steal data from a casino thanks to their internet connected fish tank. In 2017
I imagine a darkened office in the far outreaches of an LG research facility where a hermit lives.
They call him the stain expert. He gazes at this data all day.
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For some, there are. Just have to be a multi millionaire.
If they ever sell a smart hammer that measures my impact strength and sends it to some system somewhere for further analysis then I’m giving up building. Let the damn AI build. Why does the world incorporate tech even when it adds nothing to a pre-existing method and drives up the price? Oh…I get it now.
Because “data is the new oil.”
Doesn’t matter what that data is, collect it first, and figure out how to sell it later.
except this oil is like 99% useless given the current scope of data collection.
You say that, until your hammer data is used to detect improper use, which your employer’s insurance can use to deny a claim.
Or it can be used to void a warranty. Or it could detect G-forces of your commute to work and raise your car insurance rates for hard accelerations. Or a biometric sensor in the handle can tell your boss if you can work another 30 minutes before there is a financially significant risk of heatstroke.
You get the idea, that data is useless, until some hairbrained jackass packages it and sells it’s to an even more unscrupulous asshole.
i wonder why the governments haven’t close this shop given how fucked up this whole thing is… oh wait…
…sells it’s to an even more unscrupulous asshole.
just how fucked up it can get?
Though it would be cool to do that and then set up microphones to pick up the house settling sounds and see if there’s a correlation. If only those with the resources to set that up could be trusted to not abuse that access to data because I wouldn’t consent to some data firm having access to mics in my place.
The products are made to male the owners Roch not benefit the users.
Bored household item developed sexting addiction with ChatGPT
say what you will about al-qaeda but at least they made a solid demonstration as you why flying cars have always been a stupid fucking idea.
Hmm. This sounds like maths.
Quick google search say that averag plane weights are about 40 000 kg for small jets, 70 000kg for narrow-body planes and up to 570 000 kg for large wide-body planes.
While average car weight is somewhere in the 2000 kg mark.
If the dreams of flying cars come to trough the way most scifi/cyperpunk depicts them and the flight speeds would be at the similiar range than driving on the street.
So lets be generous and say flying cars would be much hevyer and weight 3000kg and the flight speed would max 175 km/h wich is pretty much the max speed for regular cars.
Lets go with the average plane so Weight is 70 000kg and flight speed is 930km/h
So maths:
E = 0.0386 * m * v^2
Car: E = 0.0386 * 3 000 * 175^2 ≈ 3.5MJ
Plane: E = 0.0386 * 70 000 * 930^2 ≈ 2.3GJ
So you would need about 670 cars to get same impact as one plane.
*all the numbers came from google-fu and from my ass. Also all the maths was done while sitting on a toilet, so there is large margin for error.
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who says you need the same impact? a car can still fly through your window.
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I’m not talking about literally recreating 9/11 itself, especially since the twin towers are not as tall as they were. shame. anyway, my point is flying cars make any kind of accident a potential mini-9/11. you can put guardrails on roads, what the hell are you going to have for flying cars?
- Nobody
- I just wanted to calculate stuff for fun.
Talking about the danger. Cars can allready be driven to masses and many houses or businesess dont have any guard railings protecting them from normal cars, but we dont see those happening that much. Why it would suddenly change, by adding additional dimension.
Also small planes are not really that hard to come by. Why we dont have those driving in to buildings now?
Also doing “mini-9/11” would most certainly kill or atleast hospitialize the driver. I can somehow understand giving your live for cause you support and cause the enemy lot of pain, but i think there would be much higher treshold to give a life for something that is very unlikely to do anything but structural damage and hurt your self.
More likelly would be crashing while driving under influence, but i would imagine there would be higher treshold for anybody to fly drunk than drive drunk.
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Well in 1985 they “predicted” that in 2015 we will be so advanced that we will all have Home Cold Fusion Reactor, flying cars, double neck tie and each home will have multiple Fax Machines.
Well, we now technically have a fusion reactor in the sky, and we can receive the energy it beams down right at our homes
The 1980’s - Padded with lies, just like the shoulders in mall blazers.
When I installed pihole at home the Number One request in the network was the Google nest thermostat. Why the fuck do you need to upload the temperature or other stuff this often?
Doesn’t that one have a microphone?
no, it “only” has a room presence + humidity + temperature sensor
My dishwasher keeps begging for internet. And it can keep on fucking begging.
Depends on the manufacturer, it can be useful. Here’s my dishwashers internet usage:
Basically two notifications, one that it’s done one that a machine cleaning is needed. Less than a Kilobyte of data.
I know that it’s done when it stops making noise.
Does your dishwasher not have a drying cycle?
“and in case it starts making noises I don’t recognize, there is a shotgun nearby”
My dishwasher is not audible in the middle of the night if I stand more than 5 steps away. During the day with all the noise of daily life… not even if I hug it.
That’s fair, honestly I was mostly joking. I just have a fairly deep distrust of IoT devices, even if not for the privacy angle they’re generally not built with robust network security in mind.
If only there was a way to show that information on the actual machine. The one you need to be in front of to do anything about the information.
If I’m in my office I need to first get to the dishwasher. If I’m on my way home I can’t turn on the oven to preheat. If my kids leave the fridge open I want to be notified before all the food is ruined, even if I’m at work.
I know that lemmy is fully of contrarians, but not everything is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes progress is useful.
You really should not turn the oven on remotely, especially when you have kids. Also your food will definitely not be ruined because your kids leave the fridge open for a few hours. And for the dishwasher you can just set a timer.
If you have meat or dairy items in your fridge, those can become unsafe to eat after only 2 hours. Since the cold air is more dense, it spills out the bottom of the fridge and gets replaced by room temperature air rather quickly. I’ve definitely eaten my fair share of questionable foods going past this, but the calculus changes if you’re giving that food to other people.
As for the main point, agreed. I’m definitely not a luddite, but if I had kids who weren’t yet responsible enough to not leave a fridge open for hours, I think I’d just put child locks on the fridge and make sure they had access to something else.
The oven is set high and has triple isolation, even after 1 h it’s barely hot on the surface, plus the kids are with us when shopping. The fridge will surely compromise the food, plus consume a lot of energy. And no timer can select the mode of the dishwasher, or change or on the fly or integrate projected solar production.
I will not make my life more expensive,.more risky and less comfortable to save 1kb of internet traffic.
Yeah but i did the same thing with a zigbee socket.
Which i just stuck in there as a route booster between the main house and basement brewery (under kitchen)
It’s not the same (I have that setup for the washing machine which doesn’t have wifi). You just get on/off status and power usage, enough for notifications alone. You don’t get other info, or control. Like start the dishwasher remotely on a fast cycle because unexpected guests. Or on the eco cycle when solar power is available. Or pre-heat the oven when leaving the store with frozen pizzas.
It’s not a must have thing, but a nice comfort feature.
Yeah all this sounds really nice for with a home assistant setup. I’d love to be able to start my washing machine to start while I’m at work so it’s done when I get home and can throw it in to the dryer real quick even though I’m busy that day.
Yeah nah they’re not big enough carrots for the concerns introduced
What exactly are the concerns?
Privacy concerns, unecessary technical faultpoints, ownership and control concerns, security vulnerabilities (that then offer a jump point to compromise the rest of the network), bullshit repair hampering…
I volunteer my private information. Here it is for you too: I run the dishwasher at 55C in eco mode which takes 4h and 5 minutes. There, now the whole internet knows about it. It doesn’t have a camera pointed at my bed, it’s a dishwasher.
The wifi is not needed for it to work, it’s an addictional interface. If anything it provides redundancy, in case some of the buttons (which are exposed to water and chemicals) fail.
All my IoT devices are in a separate vlan and ssid, so security doesn’t worry me much
And regarding repair, I chose this brand because they offer replacement parts even for 20 year old appliances, with manuals how to repair it yourself. And again, if the wifi fails I will still have the buttons.
- Spying on you (yours doesn’t seem to do that yet, but see pt.2)
- Getting hacked because the domain it communicates with wasn’t renewed and got hijacked by scriptkiddies
Overall I’m quite excited about smart home stuff, but it must live on its own isolated network with some device I have full control over as a bridge to the internet (home-assistant+tailscale or a similar setup). No “IoT” device should have direct internet access, ever.
Point 1 doesn’t concern me much because the oven doesn’t come with a camera or microphone. At most they might know how hot I bake my pizza at. I can tell you all here: it’s 180C.
Point 2 doesn’t either, all IoT devices run their own WLAN isolated from my network and each other.
Similar setup here, home assistant bridge which is then available via reverse proxy from the internet.
any kind of unified interface for all those smart gadgets?
Home assistant
New kink unlocked
I think in 1980 3.7 GB of data seemed further away then a flying car.
That’s…actually a really good point
We have the tech for flying cars, it’s just not practical or economical. We’ve even got flying bikes and good jet packs
Flying cars would be a nightmare for the FAA. Helicopters are enough for cases where you need to land in a small area where fixed-wing aircraft can’t
The idiots around my place can’t even get around in regular cars. Pretty damn sure half of them would be dead within 2 months so it’s flying cars.
Oof imagine the severity of car accidents when they occur in the sky
Isn’t someone in China trying to do flying taxis. No idea about plausibility I just read things on the interweeb.
I know that in Moscow you could order a “flying taxi” with Yandex.Taxi (russian uber thing), it was actually a tiny two-seat helicopter. I suspect that Chinese “flying taxis” would be quite similar.
“Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Shirt! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock!” - LG Dishwasher, probably.
I believe that if a dishwasher sees a sock, it might be used for the wrong purposes.
If you give it a sock, it will become a free dishwasher.
You don’t know me.
I wonder how many cum socks it would take to poison the data collected 🤔
Bro
From this point on , any useful new technology, any advancement in medicine, will be for the very wealthy. The rest of us will be taking ivermectin and paying unholy fees just to keep driving our falling-apart cars.
