EDIT: A rough timeline of events here:
- In 2024, a user noticed this odd traffic on their local network, took a screenshot of the graph, and posted it to Twitter
- After discussing the issue with other Twitter users, the original poster realized that this graph was actually a mistake with their router or something. This reporting software was reporting some other device’s network traffic as being the washing machine’s traffic. The washing machine was actually only using a reasonable amount of data.
- Despite this past revelation, in 2026, someone put together a “meme” of sorts comparing the supposed events in that 2024 graph to what people in the past had predicted the future to be.
- For whatever reason, that “meme” was put through AI post-processing of some sort. Was the attempt to “upscale” this image after it had been passed around and been automatically compressed down by various platforms? Or was it someone using some newfangled AI-assisted compression technique in an attempt to create a smaller file size than any of the more traditional compression techniques? No idea. Whatever reason was, the image was left with a bunch of nonsense text on the graph portion.
- I saw this “meme” and decided to share it here without scrutinizing the text on the graph. As mentioned in my first point, this graph was originally posted years ago, so I was already familiar with it and did not feel the need to read into it in the image I was sharing. I felt safe assuming it was just the same graph that I remember seeing years back.
- After users here called out the nonsense text, I just recreated the “meme” from scratch. I grabbed the original screenshot of the graph from Twitter and a stock photo of clouds, and then combined them along with some text so that this is more-or-less the same exact “meme”, just without the AI gibberish.
note that flying cars exist (they’re called private airplanes) but they’re looked down upon because they obviously consume way too much energy for getting people from A to B.
Lesson: never buy an appliance that has internet connectivity.
Related: a criminal group managed to steal data from a casino thanks to their internet connected fish tank. In 2017
the hell? why the fuck a washing machine needs a wifi for? to google how to wash clothes?
What is a washing machine doing that adds up to 3.7 gigs of data, per DAY? How many loads it does? How long it sits before it gets emptied? Why would anyone even care?
Bored household item developed sexting addiction with ChatGPT
If they ever sell a smart hammer that measures my impact strength and sends it to some system somewhere for further analysis then I’m giving up building. Let the damn AI build. Why does the world incorporate tech even when it adds nothing to a pre-existing method and drives up the price? Oh…I get it now.
Because “data is the new oil.”
Doesn’t matter what that data is, collect it first, and figure out how to sell it later.
And the typical consumer has no critical thinking skills and also, is ignorant, and very often a moron, and a sucker. People aren’t smart. The appliances are lol. And the people at the top of giant companies have a greed that is insatiable.
except this oil is like 99% useless given the current scope of data collection.
You say that, until your hammer data is used to detect improper use, which your employer’s insurance can use to deny a claim.
Or it can be used to void a warranty. Or it could detect G-forces of your commute to work and raise your car insurance rates for hard accelerations. Or a biometric sensor in the handle can tell your boss if you can work another 30 minutes before there is a financially significant risk of heatstroke.
You get the idea, that data is useless, until some hairbrained jackass packages it and sells it’s to an even more unscrupulous asshole.
i wonder why the governments haven’t close this shop given how fucked up this whole thing is… oh wait…
Psssst. They’re “in on it.”
…sells it’s to an even more unscrupulous asshole.
just how fucked up it can get?
Period tracking apps are selling the data of minors to states where abortion is illegal in order to to see if they become pregnant (or un-pregnant).
Need I go on?
Though it would be cool to do that and then set up microphones to pick up the house settling sounds and see if there’s a correlation. If only those with the resources to set that up could be trusted to not abuse that access to data because I wouldn’t consent to some data firm having access to mics in my place.
The products are made to male the owners Roch not benefit the users.
I imagine a darkened office in the far outreaches of an LG research facility where a hermit lives.
They call him the stain expert. He gazes at this data all day.
say what you will about al-qaeda but at least they made a solid demonstration as you why flying cars have always been a stupid fucking idea.
Hmm. This sounds like maths.
Quick google search say that averag plane weights are about 40 000 kg for small jets, 70 000kg for narrow-body planes and up to 570 000 kg for large wide-body planes.
While average car weight is somewhere in the 2000 kg mark.
If the dreams of flying cars come to trough the way most scifi/cyperpunk depicts them and the flight speeds would be at the similiar range than driving on the street.
So lets be generous and say flying cars would be much hevyer and weight 3000kg and the flight speed would max 175 km/h wich is pretty much the max speed for regular cars.
Lets go with the average plane so Weight is 70 000kg and flight speed is 930km/h
So maths:
E = 0.0386 * m * v^2
Car: E = 0.0386 * 3 000 * 175^2 ≈ 3.5MJ
Plane: E = 0.0386 * 70 000 * 930^2 ≈ 2.3GJ
So you would need about 670 cars to get same impact as one plane.
*all the numbers came from google-fu and from my ass. Also all the maths was done while sitting on a toilet, so there is large margin for error.
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who says you need the same impact? a car can still fly through your window.
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I’m not talking about literally recreating 9/11 itself, especially since the twin towers are not as tall as they were. shame. anyway, my point is flying cars make any kind of accident a potential mini-9/11. you can put guardrails on roads, what the hell are you going to have for flying cars?
- Nobody
- I just wanted to calculate stuff for fun.
Talking about the danger. Cars can allready be driven to masses and many houses or businesess dont have any guard railings protecting them from normal cars, but we dont see those happening that much. Why it would suddenly change, by adding additional dimension.
Also small planes are not really that hard to come by. Why we dont have those driving in to buildings now?
Also doing “mini-9/11” would most certainly kill or atleast hospitialize the driver. I can somehow understand giving your live for cause you support and cause the enemy lot of pain, but i think there would be much higher treshold to give a life for something that is very unlikely to do anything but structural damage and hurt your self.
More likelly would be crashing while driving under influence, but i would imagine there would be higher treshold for anybody to fly drunk than drive drunk.
because there are roads and usually cars stick to those. grip is an important aspect of safety. there’s no grip in the air.
small planes aren’tn hard to come by? compared to cars? also do you think flying cars are going to use the same routes as planes? what about air traffic control?
you’re still thinking about my point as deliberate attacks when I’m talking about accidents having much bigger consequences. contrary to your belief there are tons of guardrails, literally or conceptually, around roads. there are no such things in air. if your car goes haywire in the air, it can end up anywhere.
I’ll concede higher threshold for drunk driving even though I don’t believe it can be enforced reliably. let’s say you can. people still make mistakes while sober. even more when tired. or preoccupied.
I must missread something somewhere. I put much more weight on the terror side than the accident side.
If i was a civic engineer and a law maker and i would need to start making infra for flying cars, cities would be no fly zones, outside of dedicate “roads” that can be designed in so there is minimal danger to others in the case of crash. There would need to be dedicated flight height. These could be enforced similiarry than rentable electricscooters are now, so if driver would drive on a no fly zone or at wrong height the car would slow down. These would need to be build in things from the manufactorer. These no flight zones would also be near anything dangerous like energy plants, airports, military instalations etc etc.
We have allready things like automatic braking because pedestrians or deer or other cars. These would need to be supercharged so the vehicles do not let people drive to close other people or buildings.
Then things like harhers punishments for breaking the traffic law, more strict inspections for the vechicles and own permint for driving flying cars, that is prerequisite to buy a car and if you loose it, you cant keep the car, or there needs to be a mechanism where the car is made earhbound only.
A lot of responcilibity for the manufactores in case there are malfunctions.
Own mandatory insurance for flying, that pays to the victims in case of anything happening.
Mandatory breath analyzier for starting the vehicle, or in more scifi world blood test for any substances.
Drivers licence should have strict health inspection and it would need to be renewd often.
Mandatory flight plan system, where you need to mark where you are leaving from and where you are going, and the system could caluculate current traffic and give you the flight path, height and landing spot. So in a way automatic flight control that can open new “roads” if needed and there would be information on all traffic all the time so collision risk is small and traffic flows.
Clear idea that flying is not a right, it is a responsibility.
Edit: added few points.
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Well you do need 17 blood settings, it needs to send a dvd to figure that out /s
When I installed pihole at home the Number One request in the network was the Google nest thermostat. Why the fuck do you need to upload the temperature or other stuff this often?
Doesn’t that one have a microphone?
no, it “only” has a room presence + humidity + temperature sensor
My dishwasher keeps begging for internet. And it can keep on fucking begging.
Depends on the manufacturer, it can be useful. Here’s my dishwashers internet usage:
Basically two notifications, one that it’s done one that a machine cleaning is needed. Less than a Kilobyte of data.
I know that it’s done when it stops making noise.
“and in case it starts making noises I don’t recognize, there is a shotgun nearby”
Does your dishwasher not have a drying cycle?
My dishwasher is not audible in the middle of the night if I stand more than 5 steps away. During the day with all the noise of daily life… not even if I hug it.
That’s fair, honestly I was mostly joking. I just have a fairly deep distrust of IoT devices, even if not for the privacy angle they’re generally not built with robust network security in mind.
If only there was a way to show that information on the actual machine. The one you need to be in front of to do anything about the information.
If I’m in my office I need to first get to the dishwasher. If I’m on my way home I can’t turn on the oven to preheat. If my kids leave the fridge open I want to be notified before all the food is ruined, even if I’m at work.
I know that lemmy is fully of contrarians, but not everything is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes progress is useful.
You really should not turn the oven on remotely, especially when you have kids. Also your food will definitely not be ruined because your kids leave the fridge open for a few hours. And for the dishwasher you can just set a timer.
You really should not turn the oven on remotely,
Neighbors house almost burned down because of remote controlled device. It was a sauna stove instead of a oven and didn’t even have network, just control panel outside of the sauna where you could turn it on without checking the stove first. Kids had left some plastic toy on the stove. Gladly they noticed the smell just in time, few minutes more and smoke would have ignited, at least according to firemen who were alerted on site.
My stove has option for remote control too via simple relay input so I could just throw in esphome or whatever on it and control it across the world over home assistant, but for that exact reason I didn’t install anything on the header.
The oven is set high and has triple isolation, even after 1 h it’s barely hot on the surface, plus the kids are with us when shopping. The fridge will surely compromise the food, plus consume a lot of energy. And no timer can select the mode of the dishwasher, or change or on the fly or integrate projected solar production.
I will not make my life more expensive,.more risky and less comfortable to save 1kb of internet traffic.
If you have meat or dairy items in your fridge, those can become unsafe to eat after only 2 hours. Since the cold air is more dense, it spills out the bottom of the fridge and gets replaced by room temperature air rather quickly. I’ve definitely eaten my fair share of questionable foods going past this, but the calculus changes if you’re giving that food to other people.
As for the main point, agreed. I’m definitely not a luddite, but if I had kids who weren’t yet responsible enough to not leave a fridge open for hours, I think I’d just put child locks on the fridge and make sure they had access to something else.
Yeah but i did the same thing with a zigbee socket.
Which i just stuck in there as a route booster between the main house and basement brewery (under kitchen)
It’s not the same (I have that setup for the washing machine which doesn’t have wifi). You just get on/off status and power usage, enough for notifications alone. You don’t get other info, or control. Like start the dishwasher remotely on a fast cycle because unexpected guests. Or on the eco cycle when solar power is available. Or pre-heat the oven when leaving the store with frozen pizzas.
It’s not a must have thing, but a nice comfort feature.
Yeah all this sounds really nice for with a home assistant setup. I’d love to be able to start my washing machine to start while I’m at work so it’s done when I get home and can throw it in to the dryer real quick even though I’m busy that day.
Yeah nah they’re not big enough carrots for the concerns introduced
What exactly are the concerns?
Privacy concerns, unecessary technical faultpoints, ownership and control concerns, security vulnerabilities (that then offer a jump point to compromise the rest of the network), bullshit repair hampering…
I volunteer my private information. Here it is for you too: I run the dishwasher at 55C in eco mode which takes 4h and 5 minutes. There, now the whole internet knows about it. It doesn’t have a camera pointed at my bed, it’s a dishwasher.
The wifi is not needed for it to work, it’s an addictional interface. If anything it provides redundancy, in case some of the buttons (which are exposed to water and chemicals) fail.
All my IoT devices are in a separate vlan and ssid, so security doesn’t worry me much
And regarding repair, I chose this brand because they offer replacement parts even for 20 year old appliances, with manuals how to repair it yourself. And again, if the wifi fails I will still have the buttons.
- Spying on you (yours doesn’t seem to do that yet, but see pt.2)
- Getting hacked because the domain it communicates with wasn’t renewed and got hijacked by scriptkiddies
Overall I’m quite excited about smart home stuff, but it must live on its own isolated network with some device I have full control over as a bridge to the internet (home-assistant+tailscale or a similar setup). No “IoT” device should have direct internet access, ever.
Point 1 doesn’t concern me much because the oven doesn’t come with a camera or microphone. At most they might know how hot I bake my pizza at. I can tell you all here: it’s 180C.
Point 2 doesn’t either, all IoT devices run their own WLAN isolated from my network and each other.
Similar setup here, home assistant bridge which is then available via reverse proxy from the internet.
any kind of unified interface for all those smart gadgets?
Home assistant
groovy
New kink unlocked
Well in 1985 they “predicted” that in 2015 we will be so advanced that we will all have Home Cold Fusion Reactor, flying cars, double neck tie and each home will have multiple Fax Machines.
Well, we now technically have a fusion reactor in the sky, and we can receive the energy it beams down right at our homes
The 1980’s - Padded with lies, just like the shoulders in mall blazers.
1980: “I bet there will be flying cars in the future!”
2026: “Oh…nonononononono. That would be far too dangerous. Not after 9/11.”
80: “9/11?”
26: “Yeah, they flew a bunch of planes into buildings, and blew up the pentagon, and the world trade center buildings, and an empty field in PA.”
80: “Why would they blow up an empty field?”
26: “Because those men and women inside that plane are HEROS!”
80: “I don’t understand…”
2020: “Hey guys!”
26: “Oh god! 1980, put this mask on. 2020 is here.”
80: “I don’t understand whats going on…”
20122016: "I just shot a gorilla, and altered the future!20 and 26: “FUCK OFF
20122016!!!”Harambe was in 2016, unless you’re from the alternate timeline where the event actually happened in 2012.
Harambes demise was fortold by the Mayans.
…ok, either you somehow have the ability to alter google results before I search for them, or this is some Bearenstein Bears Bullshit!
I SWEAR it was in 2012…wait, was Kony 2012 not in 2012? I remember them both happening in the same summer.
Me after 9/11/2001 seeing all the American flags being waved, reminiscent of Nazi Germany: “I sure hope this doesn’t lead where it looks like it could lead…”
Later: “Fuck.”
“Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock! Shirt! Sock! Sock! Sock! Sock!” - LG Dishwasher, probably.
I believe that if a dishwasher sees a sock, it might be used for the wrong purposes.
If you give it a sock, it will become a free dishwasher.
You don’t know me.
I wonder how many cum socks it would take to poison the data collected 🤔
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