The first Jurassic Park movie is all time one of the greatest films ever made with the special effects still holding up to this day. The 2nd film was still very enjoyable in my opinion but it was just a cookie cutter sequel not bad, not good. The 3rd film wasn’t great at all. But compared to the rest of the series the 3rd film is basically the godfather.

As another personal pick the 1st blade movie is a hood classic good. The other 2 not so much.

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    The Matrix.

    Not sure how that isn’t mentioned yet!

    First movie was a masterpiece that became a classic, the rest were completely unnecessary.

    When my brother showed The Matrix to his kid, she asked “Is there another one?” and he said “No.”

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      I can respect the fourth one. Sure, it was a terrible movie but it feels like a deliberate piss take on the idea of reviving the franchise. And I can respect that.

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          I said I can respect it, not that it’s good. It feels like a deliberate attempt to torpedo the revival of a series that really didn’t need to be revived. That’s what I can respect, not the movie on its own merits.

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      don’t even get me started on resurections. Holy shit. It is bullshit that that movie is now canon :/

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        I’m not 100%, but I’m pretty sure Lana undertook it to destroy the series and get the movie studio to stop asking for sequels. It’s like the central theme of the movie.

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          The latest Gundam series is like that. The GQUUUUX one. “LET THINGS DIE AND MAKE NEW THINGS INSTEAD” says the original Gundam from the original series in the same art style while looking directly into the camera.

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      I feel like the matrix 2 is similar to jurassic park 2. Very clearly inferior, but enjoyable enough to not be a complete waste of time.

      I’m saying that, I’ll say that JP 2 is better than matrix 2. I’ll happily watch JP 2 again, probably with my kids at some point, but if not then on my own… But I would be happy whether I see matrix 2 again or not.

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        I very much enjoy Matrix 2… It has some amazing fight scenes (neo vs the vampires), some cool new characters (The Merovingian, the Twins, Persephone, Niobe…) and I think it’s a fun movie, even though it’s clearly not as deep as the first one.

        It’s a shame they never released a third one though 🙄

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        Yeah but it was pretty clear the Wachowskis didn’t want it made and Lana only did it because they would have done it with or without them.

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    It would be far more interesting to ask, what movie franchise DOESN’T get worse with each new film.

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      Aliens, Terminator 2, The Dark Knight are the first three that come to mind - but yes, in general sequels tend to be inferior.

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      Alien at least had the second film better than the first, which was a hell of an accomplishment since the first film was great. Fortunately they never even made any movies after the second one.

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        Come on, now. The third was OK, the fourth was enjoyable, and Romulus was phenomenal. It was basically “let’s take the best bits from Alien and Aliens and stick them together” and they did it brilliantly.

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          C’mon, killing off Newt and Hicks at the start of the third was unconscionable. It’s in the same category as “somehow, Palpatine returned”.

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            “Somehow Palpatine returned” is lazy writing forced on them due to Snoke dying in the previous film.

            Hicks and Newt dying is perfectly reasonable in the world the action takes place in.

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      John Wick? They are not like the best movies in the world but they do get better.

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          If you go by release date then that can’t be true considering the prequels (even though I love them). TFA was also so bland compared to the rest. The Last Jedi was the only decent one since the original trilogy imo.

          But oh my god rise of skywalker is so fucking bad.

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            rise of skywalker was so terrible they should have let rian johnson just do his thing again, even if people hated it like TLJ at least it would have had some thought put into it

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          i liked TFA. It was a decent flick. But then they just got so. much. worse.

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              TLJ would’ve been a great third film in a trilogy. It absolutely sucks balls as the second film. It killed practically all the story lines from the first, leaving basically nothing for the third, including the main bad guy. Hux would’ve never been a good “ultimate enemy”, and if Kylo Ren became one, it would completely overturn everything the previous eight films worked on.

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            TFA TLJ would’ve been a great third film in a trilogy. It absolutely sucks balls as the second film. It killed practically all the story lines from the first, leaving basically nothing for the third, including the main bad guy. Hux would’ve never been a good “ultimate enemy”, and if Kylo Ren became one, it would completely overturn everything the previous eight films worked on.

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      • The Lord of the Rings was very consistent. Many people think that Return of the King is the best one.
      • Knives Out had a rather disappointing second part but the third one is amazing.

      Yeah, that’s all I can think of right now.

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        Lord of the Rings barely counts, because not only were all three books out and classics before the movies started (obviously), but the three movies were basically worked on at the same time. It’s nuts, but somehow they managed to do it.

        So it’s not like they released the first, got crazy hype, and then phoned everyone up and said “electric Boogaloo, you in?”. They’d already shot most of the second and third by the time the first came out, as I recall.

        Also I really liked Glass Onion 😛

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          Like bttf 1 and 2 where filmed back to back and then released a year apart from each other. That was ambitious. Nothing based on books or prior proof. They just knew they had such a banger they did 2 movies right out of the gate.

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          Early 2000s film-making was that crazy. The only other ambitious feat I know of (besides the BTTF example someone else mentioned) was that Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions both released in the same year of eachother, by a few months apart. Were they any good? Up for anyone’s debate (but both far exceed Resurrections). That means, that they also were done in one very long shoot.

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        Knives Out 2 is by far my favorite and I love all three. I’ve only laughed that hard at a movie a handful of times.

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          My main criticism about Glass Onion is that the twist only works because Blanc knows something from the start that the audience can’t really figure out on their own. I prefer detective stories where the main character has the same opportunities to gather information as I have and if I pay close enough attention, I can figure out most of what happened before the big reveal.

          But I’m glad that you liked it. Shows that the series caters to different tastes.

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          At least to me and my friends who watched it with me. See my other reply for an explanation why. But of course, tastes differ and there seem to be quite a few people on here who liked it.

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      I’m just thinking in big franchises, because I’m not a well-schooled film-nerd. But even I can think of a lot of examples of sequels better than the originals.

      It’s a matter of taste, but I think Rocky 2 is the strongest film in the franchise. I think it’s more commonly believed that Aliens is a stronger film than Alien. Evil Dead 2 is better than Evil Dead, but that might not count since its a soft reboot. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan is pretty much a classic example. Terminator 2 is a very different movie than Terminator 1, making comparison weird but it’s usually regarded as better. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 is arguably stronger than Spider-Man, though obviously 3 was a bit of a mess.

      Going to put this in a separate section. Admittedly, whether this should count is arguable. Still, If you count Marvel movies as direct sequels to others, it gets ridiculously easy: Thor: Ragnarok is so much better than all the other Thor movies its kind of nuts. Winter Soldier is stronger than First Avenger and Civil War might be better than both. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is the strongest film in that franchise.

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      Mad Max. Thunderdome’s a bit of a sore spot I’ll admit, but everything else has been at least as good as the original film.

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      Star Wars original trilogy. All three are fantastic but Empire and ROTJ are better both because of budget and having superior directors behind the camera. George has a great imagination but should not be allowed to be the one who brings his stories to life. I’d also offer that out of the Prequels, ROTS is far superior to I & II and is in roughly the same league as the OT. And then there’s Rogue One; oh it’s beautiful.

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        ROTJ is the weakest part of the OT. Better production and direction, sure, but so much else is lacking.

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        It should have ended at the -1th movie

        I joke. I ironically love those films because they are terrible.

        Nobody likes the tuna here, asshole!

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          The first movie was serious, but as they progress they lean in on the silliness. Going to space was the cherry on the cake.

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            The goddamn spinoff dealing with a rogue supersoldier, and the two leads basically being superhuman already.

            I only watched a couple minutes, but that was more than I could handle.

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    honestly, star wars. I’m a HUGE star wars fan, but they’re the same movie repeatedly. blow up death star, blow up bigger death star. blow up BIGGEST death star. BAM. 9 movies.

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      Hmm… Kind of a weird take considering the Prequels had no blowing up of any super weapons, and the Sequels had only one, in the first film.

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      If you take each trilogy as a set, sure.

      But Empire and Return were both amazing films that one-upped the original.

      And I think Clones was better than Phantom.

      The final trilogy was a straight fucking cliff both by itself and in comparison to the other trilogies.

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    Any of the classic Disney animated movies. First movie is a ripoff of classic fairy tales so most of the heavy lifting writing wise was done for them, the instant Disney has to write the whole thing is when it goes to shit. If it’s “Disney presents [insert fairy tale here] 2” you know it’ll suck.

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    JP went from a Dinosaur Movie to a very generic monster movie with the exact same plot every time.

    Greedy evildoer wants SuperDino for nefarious purposes and must be defeated. Repeat.

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    Nah, Blade 2 still fucks.

    Blade Trinity is just as rough now as it was when it first released.

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      I thought John Wick maintained the same level through all the sequels.

      Also, you’re telling me that Thor (1) is better than Infinity War?

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        Yeah I think anyone who thinks John Wick got worse over time was probably a teenager when the first one came out. They’re all schlocky action films. The fourth one at least has some unique set pieces

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      Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way.

      The first one was a masterpiece, two was good, but 3 & 4 just felt like they were pushing to hard to release quickly and had no real sole. The first John Wick I can rewatch over and over and enjoy every viewing. The rest… once was enough.

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      There are 7 star wars movies and 1 series and they’re all good (original trilogy, prequels, rogue one and andor)

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    Ghostbusters. Some late 80’s exec in tv and film was obsessed with putting babies in everything and the second movie got shanked in a dark alley by them.

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          I am an unabashed fan of Ghostbusters 2016. The scene with Holtzmann and the pistols gives me tingles. Kevin is just a gem.

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            I don’t know, I see it as a missed opportunity.

            A cast I genuinely adore let down by some poor directing choices and a fairly limp script.

            Everyone deserved a better film than that.

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          Absolutely not. There were one or two moments that made me laugh (notably the very end when Chris Hemsworth gets the burrito smacked out of his hand and some rando off-screen tosses it back to him), and the only other thing I can think of is Leslie Jones feeling like she actually tried and gave a shit. I actually liked her character the best because she wasn’t some dumb eccentric ghost-genius.