Disclaimer: this is purposefully obtuse.

Other effects in the game which explicitly state they kill you:

Shadows, succubi, massive damage, death saving throws, beholder death ray (notably not even their disintegration ray kills you), power word kill, vampires, mind flayers, night hags, drow inquisitors.

Clearly, if they intended for disintegration to kill you, they’d have said so. Since specific overrides general, and there is no general rule that disintegrated creatures are dead, I rest my case. QED.

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    You’re not dead when you’re petrified, either, which can lead to some pretty interesting exploits, rules-as-written.

    Petrified creatures count as creatures, not objects, so rules-as-written you can determine if a statue is a petrified creature by trying to target it with a spell that requires a creature for a target.

    With the cantrip Poison Spray, you can check for petrified creatures without using spell slots or risking damaging the creature, since it would be immune to poison while petrified.

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        You can also safely check with Vicious mockery. The spell can target any creature, but only damages the target if it can hear, which “inanimate” things cannot.

        On the other hand, Dissonant Whispers causes the target to hear (rather than hearing being a precondition as it is with Vicious Mockery) and with this you can kill petrified creatures, thus ensuring no spell casters return them to flesh-and-blood, without damaging the statue.

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    Probably should go join the Thousand Suns Sons. They might set you up with some nice power armor.

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      Thousand Sons*

      Also, pretty sure that it comes with a permanent controlling enchantment subjugating them to the next Sorcerer

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        If the speck of dust is sentient, then it’s not really a rubricae. The suits of armor do nothing when not controlled

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        Well, that’s a small problem compared to being a pile of dust without power armor.

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    Why would it matter if it says you die? It’s not like there’s a rule that dead characters can’t take actions. Or that they transform into objects. Or get sent to another plane of existence depending on who they worship and their alignment while leaving an object behind.

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      I’ve never played DND so I don’t know if this is something you could pull off or anything but I’d probably be like

      “I snort the fine pile of dust” and then, I don’t know, there’s some latent personality or intention there, so now we have to alternate playing my character between turns/minutes or something. It’d probably make for some great RP moments, especially if each personality couldn’t remember very well what the other was doing previously. Maybe the class and abilities change with each person, which makes arming up appropriately interesting or a pain depending on how we handle it I suppose.

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      That’s not even in the scene.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-m7UsCp3I

      Here’s what Walter actually says:

      How are you doing?

      …mumbling…

      How are you doing?

      You did the only thing that you could, I hope you understand that.

      Any thoughts on what our next move might be?

      Our next move. Our next move. Given the fact that at the first opportunity, Gus will kill us.

      No, no, we bought ourselves some time, yes, but… The question is how much. He will be looking for another chemist.

      Are you sure you’re…

      What do you mean?

      What page is that?

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      Spells do what they say they do, and disintegrate doesn’t change you into an object. Compare to True Polymorph, a higher level spell, which can creatures into objects.

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        I agree that “spells do what they say” but a pile of dust is definitely an object, not a creature. That said, I’m willing to concede that it doesn’t turn you into a object because it says one of the only ways to be restored to life is through True Resurrection which targets creatures. (And I don’t feel like being so obtuse as to argue that the specific rule of Disintegrate saying True Resurrection allows the dust to return to life means it overrides the general rule of True Resurrection targeting creatures lol.)

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            A disintegrated creature and everything it is wearing and carrying, except magic items, are reduced to a pile of fine gray dust.

            Going from creature to pile of fine gray dust sounds like changing to me

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    The spell specifies you turn into gray dust. Unfortunately gray dust has no listed stat block.

    Luckily it is mentioned in “Tales from the Yawning Portal”, “The floor of this room is covered with a layer of fine gray dust and ash, three inches deep.”

    Based on the rest of the description you are restricted to the room in which you turned to dust and the only action you may take is casting " Minor Illusion", with the added restriction of all illusions must be humanoid.

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      Disintegrate also specifies the creature can only be brought back to life with a true resurrection or wish spell. Which most certainly means it is indeed dead, otherwise, why mention bringing it back to life?

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      Nothing about the Disintegration spell says that your stats change. Compare to spells that do, such as Polymorph, or True Polymorph which even covers changing a creature into an object.

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        I’m not changing your stats, you still have a 14 wisdom.

        You are however definitely turned into gray dust and I’m applying the rules as written about gray dust. The gray dust is restricted to the current room and can only form the shapes of various humanoids.

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      if you get cast in cement and become at least 6 inches of stone your DR goes up to fucking 50 or something

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      That’s probably the path I’d take as a DM if I had a player insisting on rules lawyering like OP. OK, you get to “play” as a pile of dust. Have fun sitting there until random wind currents blow you around.

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          buddy let’s start a campaign together you can be the pocket sand and i will be dale gribble

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          If a guy is doing what you’re doing in this thread at the table, then yeah, I’d support them in leaving you there.

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            Doing what? Trying to play by the rules? It’s a game! Games have rules. If you can’t accept someone living out their pile of dust fantasy, which is clearly supported by the rules, then I think you need to take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself who hurt you.

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              You are 100% free to live out your pile of dust fantasy. I let you be a pile of dust. Isn’t that what you wanted?

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        *ahem Subtle Spell has entered the chat. Cast any spell that doesn’t require a line of sight target and that doesn’t require material components or otherwise rely on an “attack” or similar action. Like say Guardian Of Nature. Or, if you want to get REALLY pedantic: Dimension Door.

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    Get the feeling it would be difficult to have a dust based strength character though. Hard to hold weapons/make attacks with them as dust.

    Maybe wizard?

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      Still needs an arcane focus and the spell components could be problematic. Monk maybe? (A dextrous pile of dust gently (yet masterfully!) being blown at enemies)

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      “As you cross the street you take 1d4 of wind damage. Please make death saves.”

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      Two-handed weapons require two hands, and one-handed weapons require a free hand to load. But you could use a one-handed weapon that you don’t have to load. Or rather, you don’t even need to do that, since no weapons are listed as being one-handed.