• Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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    My dacia spring has it exactly like that 😁

    You feel how you physically move the airways by rotating the wheel where you choose the air coming out

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    This works well and it’s not a hill I’ll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it’s done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I’ve never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.

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      Not sure about the UK, but I know Germany likes manuals because they last longer when you have a lot of hills and mountains.

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    I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don’t have to keep adjusting it.

    Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.

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      My new car is a 2025 model, but it’s an Indian made Japanese Kei car so the interior is super basic. and it has large, infinitely spinning knobs for temperature and fan strength, and a digital temperature readout. I really like them.

      When the temp was cold in the morning but now it’s hot, I spin those dials like wheel of fortune to the left and immediately set the AC to cold and fast. No repeated button presses.

      The only downside is that it doesn’t have one of those knobs for music volume.

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        Not only do those knobs sound awesome to use, but I could see them being cheaper and more reliable as well.

        Instead of being mechanically connected to whatever custom parts to direct air flow, it can just be an off the shelf encoder sending a signal to a processor that already exists.

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    That has 5 moving parts, while a touchscreen has none. It’s much easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to install the touchscreen. But instead of passing the savings to you, they probably keep it or pass it on to investors.

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      The nobs are cheaper, because you don’t need a motor changing the airflow, you just use the power of the human rotating the nob to adjust the airflow to go to the right spot

      And you don’t need a cpu nor gpu

      Waaay cheaper…

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      Exactly.

      Each of those knobs needs an injection mould, each switch behind it a supply chain. Iterating on digital design is far cheaper as well.

      It’s far cheaper to use what are effectively 10 year old tablets in the cheaper cars. Since LCDs are being mass manufactured for other things that likely get a nice economy of scale.

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        That depends on what badge they put on the hood. They might market a screen as luxury, but the fact is I much prefer dials myself so I’d consider dials to be luxury and I’d actually pay more for dials.

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    I’ve got an old car and it’s still like this. I don’t look forward to the day I have to get a new car.

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      Yeah like, all I wish my car had was Bluetooth capabilities but besides that I love my older car.

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        Swap the radio its pretty easy and only costs like $50. I got an old Japanese import that has Bluetooth that connects to my phone as I enter the car. Its also got USB to play music from and charge from.

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          Good call, I definitely had the thought but never pulled the trigger on it because I never found a specific replacement that I liked. I’ll have to look into it again when I can afford it!

          I was considering upgrading to something with a screen and maybe gps, but couldn’t lock a model down.

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      We had to buy a new (used 2022) car after we ran out old car into the ground. The touch screen controls temperatures. There wasn’t a single variant of the car that didn’t have a giant ass touch screen. It makes me really uncomfortable when the screen no longer works.

      There’s also some other things that piss me off.

      But Some of the pros (and why we accepted that trade off):

      • all wheel drive
      • fancy sensors when someone is in my blindside
      • it opens when it senses the key is nearby.
      • heated seats with controls. (Used to bring hot packs because it gets cold here)
      • cameras for the rear
      • it does that cool thing where it breaks if it senses you might collide. I hated it at first but I’m old now and it saved me once from collision.

      Either way, fuck cars and if public transportation was better here, id use that.

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        I would be really uncomfortable with a car where I had to touch a giant’s ass to make it go.

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    This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

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    Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn’t go full blast at the beginning, it’s amazing.

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      Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

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        So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They’re stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they’re always in the same spot and I don’t have to change any screens to access them.

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      I wish my wife understood how that worked. She always gets in, and since the engine hasn’t warmed up yet, the heat doesn’t come on, so she cranks it up to 30C.

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        My wife’s car is like that, you set it to 72 and it’ll blast really hot air or really cold air depending on the outside temperature vs inside. I wish it just blasted 72 degree air. I just always use it in manual mode now so its not constantly switching.

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        Yeah, my gf does something similar, but opposite. She doesn’t like it going full blast so she turns down the fan which turns off the auto. I think if she had the version I did she would actually use it correctly.

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    I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. No need for touch screens. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.

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      I’d add being able to set a different temperature for the driver and passenger. It’s a godsend for relationships.

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        Some cars even have a separate zone for the rear. However I’ve only seen that on touch screen models, so they can suck a dick.

        I had great fun with it in the back, though. They couldn’t see my temp on the touch screen at the front, just that the zones had been split, and I managed to get the two in the front to bicker because the driver thought the front passenger had split them XD

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    Only missing a night picture with the red LED backlight on

    Yes the temp sensor is a worthy addition to the formula. Imagine fiddling with your 80s/90s A/C running on ye olde R-12 to get the temperature right lol.

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      Agree with the addition of a low and high setting. I don’t care what the target cabin temp is, if I just got into my car after braving some crazy wind chill I want to be air fried for a bit.