A few days ago, Davuluri shared his excitement about it on his official X handle. He seemed very eager to reveal what the company has in mind at the upcoming Ignite event regarding the agentic OS plans.
Unfortunately for Microsoft and Davuluri, the response has been overwhelmingly negative, so much so that the comments on that X post have now been disabled.
Made me laugh. :)
this phrasing had to be intentional xD no social media worker can be this clueless
I think the same about the sandwich company that asked people to share how they “top their subs”.
Damn I really missed my opportunity
Microsoft’s Windows chief Pavan Davuluri had earlier hinted at such plans already about how the next evolution of OS will make it capable enough to “semantically understand you” as Windows will get “more ambient, more pervasive, more multi-modal”. Using features like Copilot Vision it will be able to “look at your screen” and do more.
Since when did corpos try to reframe the word “pervasive” as something positive?
If you are evil it is…
At least 30 years.
Former windows user here, ever since I used Win11 for the first time in 2022 I saw how buggy and useless it was. And it was clear to me that someday win10 will stop receiving updates.
I decided to get onto Linux and I am proud of myself that I tasted nearly all the distributions and tried them all.
Pure arch, Manjaro, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Debian, Linux mint, Tuxedo OS, MX Linux, Zoroin OS, Nix OS, Alpine Linux, OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Kali Linux, Fedora KDE, Fedora Workstation, Fedora KDE Silverblue, etc.
Linux mint, Tuxedo OS, MX Linux, ZoroinOS are the best for new comers from Windows and all are based on Debian.
That’s awesome! :) Did you land on a favourite for day-to-day stuff? I had the exact same pipeline - windows 11 was announced, and Mint went on days later! :) I love Kubuntu at the moment, and tried PopOS as well. :)
If only my computer was constantly hooked up to cloud AI watching everything I do! -No one ever.
Writing as a new CachyOS user, this is like finishing a move from Florida to New York, and then learning there’s another two hurricanes headed for your old hometown.
Legitimately. Fedora Bluefin here. Giving the atomic thing a try 😁
The ol’ switcherooski. Abruptly end support for your previous product, force people to buy all new hardware, then when everybody is on board you hit em with consumer-hostile monetization attempts. Classic Microsoft baby.
We’re about to get that subscription model! Probably gonna be Adobe flavored. Steam Machine launching just in time.
I can’t shake the feeling that Win11 is part of the AI grift master-plan. They’re a big investor in OpenAI, and OpenAI needs to start showing large, genuine revenue. Locking both consumers and business customers into a subscription model for the largest OS by market share to fund this grift seems like exactly such collusion. The required minimum hardware requirements for Win11 feel like the big clue, here.
As far as I can tell, AI almost always makes a call to a remote server. So why do you need a powerful PC for that? You could do that on a 20 year old computer easily.
I tried AI on my MacBook to ask it how to fix my config. It just did an internet search and didn’t even check the setting on my computer.
See, now that they’ve strongarmed everyone into using their new shitty OS and no longer using the old kind of okay one, they can change it however they want and all their users are stuck with it!
(Excuse me while i cackle madly in linux)
Funny how we’ve forgotten already the rage and backlash from users when it was revealed you could never completely disable telemetry in windows 10.
Now the general attitude is ‘well, it’s not as bad as 11.’
For the better part of a decade I used windows only for gaming, and now I’ve dropped it for that too.
I’m not sure why some people still refuse to consider using an alternative to windows these days.Gaming on Linux has gotten really good thanks to proton. Never look back!
Sadly I’ve got too many programs that don’t work on linux, or don’t work well. And an old synthesizer that I can’t imagine would work on linux unless I made a driver for it myself, and that’s a bit beyond me.
I’m not sure why some people still refuse to consider using an alternative to windows these days.
- Adobe programs
- some online games
- not having to fuck around in CLI if I want to change obscure settings (e.g. regedit or group policies)
Those are the main points that keep me from switching.
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Winboat or Winapps - Both will let you use Adobe programs in linux pretty well with a sandboxed vm. Getting better every day. That is assuming you can’t get done what you need on Open Source software alternatives - some are really good, others are a bit of a let down.
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If you are fully on board with Kernal Anti-Cheat, then you have already given up on actually owning and controlling your PC. That said, there has been talk recently by windows about kicking 3rd parties out of the Kernal, so KAC might actually die soon (we can only pray).
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I’d be curious to know what you are regularly using regedit and group policies to change. For a start, I bet a lot of it can be changed in the settings GUI or aren’t problems that need changing to start with in Linux. Secondly, I think learning CLI is significantly easier than learning regedit - the navigation at least is a lot simpler imo. Unless you are just running .reg files you find on the floor of the internet, if you learned to use regedit you can definitely learn the Linux CLI (as much as you’ll need to in order to do what you want).
Just saying, it is constantly evolving and most of the road blocks are out-dated or hinge on reliance on some other big tech company besides microsoft that is just as far down the enshittification rabbit-hole. It is not a decision you made once and have to keep living with. None of us swore a life-debt to our “team”. :)
- Thanks, I’ll check Winboat and Winapps out! My existing info came from the WineHQ website, and InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop were all reported as various levels of broken. And yes, sadly the FLOSS alternatives don’t meet my needs, I did quite a bit of research on this a few months ago.
Edit: From a quick search it seems that Winboat and Winapps have the same issue as other virtual machines, namely that you can’t really give them access to the GPU if you only have one. And graphics programs need that GPU access. - I guess some of it is habit, kernel-level anti-cheat has been a thing as long as I’ve been gaming, so it feels “normal” :| But I’m looking forward to the day when my favourite games won’t use it!
- Not using it regularly, but when I do need it, I extremely strongly prefer GUIs to CLI. I’m just a visual person, so it feels important to be able to navigate in a visible interface and see “where I am” and what my actions are affecting. With CLI I find it quite stressful to e.g. have to memorise modifier letters, instead of just clicking a checkbox. I’ve seen screenshots of people doing everything (including PKM) in CLI and it honestly baffles me how they can feel comfortable with it.
Just saying, it is constantly evolving and most of the road blocks are out-dated or hinge on reliance on some other big tech company besides microsoft that is just as far down the enshittification rabbit-hole. It is not a decision you made once and have to keep living with. None of us swore a life-debt to our “team”. :)
Of course! Make no mistake, I feel no affection towards any corporation, their main goal is to bleed us dry for their shareholders. But giving up my fully featured software and favourite games to follow my FLOSS ideals does not seem to quite balance the scales for me yet.
Though disclaimer: if I wasn’t doing piracy, but actually had to pay for Microsoft and Adobe’s rent-seeking, and be subject to all their bullshit restrictions, I would probably have jumped ship years ago. Enterprise group policies can remove a lot of user-hostile crap from Windows.
Winboat is apparently working on and close to “hardware accelerated graphics”. I haven’t tried Photoshop with it, as I never learned Photoshop, but it is one of the flagship programs they claim works well by default. It likely won’t get to the point of being an option for gaming (KAC wouldn’t work anyway as they all flag VMs, so that feels like a moot point) without setting up GPU pass-through, but I can’t imagine those programs need full bare-metal access to a GPU to work well?
Worth keeping an eye on anyway :)
- Thanks, I’ll check Winboat and Winapps out! My existing info came from the WineHQ website, and InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop were all reported as various levels of broken. And yes, sadly the FLOSS alternatives don’t meet my needs, I did quite a bit of research on this a few months ago.
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Can the AI Shit be disabled?
“Maybe Later”
~Until next update.~
Well, maybe later I’ll try your shitty OS?
It’s certainly just going to end up being used as an advertising tool. Like the recent hype of trying to get people let AI do holiday shopping for them. Like the AI saw you opened paint, have you considered a subscription for Adobe cloud. You searched for cake recipes on Google and clicked links, why not sub to copilot+. It’ll have text to speech AI as well
Iam even more happy to be using Linux 😎
Yeah the ones who went that path now can be super happy about it. We have the best desktop in the world.
Maybe stick to AM4 and processors for now that don’t have AI feature? I have AM4, it works perfect and I haven’t had to upgrade yet. I think there would be a way to disable all of the AI, like with app OOSU10 or tron. Second option would be to install Linux OS and use Wine for any Windows app and for anything buggy that wouldn’t work well, using a vm for it.
Speaking of, there’s VPNs or you could use PIHole to block Microsoft’s telemetry and AI ips.
Speaking of, there’s VPNs or you could use PIHole to block Microsoft’s telemetry and AI ips.
That game of cat and mouse would get very tiresome very fast and Microsoft would win in the end. Better to hope for new vwrsions of Tiny11 or one of those debloater scripts to disable the AI features entirely, but they’d probably be reinstated with every update. Maybe use a hook to re-run the script after every update? I don’t even know if that’s possible in Windows.
Thankfully I’ve been Microsoft free for years now so I don’t have to know. Linux is a blessing.
There must be some unaccounted for survivorship bias in the data for the MS to get it this wrong. Not even about agenda just PR they are operating on bad assumptions which is just bad for business.
Well yes, that data source is called stockholders. They eed to ride the hype. Honestly they really don’t have much choice. Either make the users happy or the stockholders. They can’t do both, it’s impossible at this stage. Want to guess which side wins?
That doesn’t make sense it’s just mindless anti capitalist sentiment which is fun and all but it isn’t getting us anywhere.
I wonder if they’re asking their AI.
I dual boot my rig. My primary is popOS. Might be time to permanently kill windows 11.
What? Nobody wants it? Let’s rush it out to users then. — Microsoft
