remember when windows 10 was supposed to be the last os they ever made
Dude, they’re still struggling with Windows 11 adoption because of the unreasonable requirements of a TPM 2.0 capable motherboard/CPU… and they are asking people to upgrade their CPUs again?
They only started seeing real growth in Windows 11 numbers as of January of this year. Windows 11 finally hit 73% last month while Windows 10 is down to 27%. Linux continues to gain marketshare, and there’s no telling if the reason that Win 11 is finally gaining marketshare is from people dumping Windows entirely for other options. Mac and Chromebook shares have been growing as well! It took Microsoft four and a half years from release to break 50% Win 11 adoption and they want to release Win 12 on year five while forcing more upgrades when half the people who got in just upgraded?
This on top of trade wars, actual wars, and an AI arms race that is making buying PC parts obscenely overpriced… and they think people will fucking go for this?
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Even businesses won’t want to upgrade this soon after many only just making upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements just recently… because businesses are also facing the same increased costs due to the above issues!
god i hope they fuck this up
They’re already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined.
…and frankly, I think they will. They’ve bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it’s fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems.
vista was great on compliant hardware. w11 is very much not.
Right, but that’s just it, they’re basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year.
It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality.
As the article reasonably posits, it’s way more likely that they’ll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn’t, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs.
whoof. i still don’t understand what makes an npu different from a vector coprocessor (except the proprietary api) so if they’re smart about it they’ll fall back to gpu use. they will not be smart about it.
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds.
Yes. They are stupid and don’t deserve their huge paychecks.
They could’ve done basically nothing. Maybe security updates. And they would’ve had a decent brand that kept bringing in money. Their leadership is worse than doing nothing. A dog would make a better ceo.
Wish granted (wiggles nose)
The OS desktop environment has stagnated over the past 15 years.
Many businesses have transitioned from a 3-4 year rotation on desktops/laptops to every 5-6 years today. Hell my work laptop is 6 years old and I don’t forsee replacing it for another 3-4 years. For work functions there is no significant improvement to upgrading more frequently today.
So if they launched W12 next year, widespread adoption will likely not occur until 2032-2033 or at the Win11 EOL whichever comes first.
The developers today are working on a system that will not become mainstream for 8+ years. They want to launch in the next 2 years knowing it will not be adopted for years.
They ignoring the reality of today’s market and building to meet the latest fads. It’s Windows 8 all over again.
Chromebook sales are up
So we’re not out of the woods yet
No, because that was a shitty headline that mischaracterized an employee’s one-off statement and was then held up as gospel truth by the internet.
it was from a press conference where they said they were done with version numbers and that windows 10 would basically be supported forever. that’s not mischaracterisation
It was from a low-level spokesperson’s statement at a press junket that the (then-current) internal versioning system was being abandoned.
It’s absolutely a mischaracterization.
i linked the junket in question.
Yes, like Arch but for windows
No, that is not what they said. Stop spreading this propaganda.
Absolutely, it was at the height of the “software as a service” phase and they were doing rolling updates for the Windows Insider program. For a hot minute they absolutely planned on it just being “Windows” from then on.
If you’re not ready to switch to Linux:
Windows 10 Enterprise IoT is supported until 2032, works great, contains almost no bloat, and is free to download and activate.
You can configure just about anything else you want or need using Chris Titus’ Power Shell Windows Utility.
Rufus is simple and easy to use for extracting the ISO to a USB drive, and has built in options for setting up a local account and automatically disabling telemetry options during installation.
Microslop is rabidly, desperately, sprinting-on-fire towards a closed mobile-style system paradigm, frothing at the mouth and glowing radioactive iridescent green with envy at Apple and Google’s silicon to application device and software ecosystem control. They want you to purchase the edge tensor hardware they need to run and train the LLMs and machine learning algorithms that will be used to analyze everything you do on your computer, perform deep learning recognition on every photo, video, and file on your hard drive, and securely export that model to themselves, advertisers, and the government at a premium, paid for by our tax dollars.
They’re burning down their own company to do it, that’s how bad they want it.
Be warned though that some installers will yell at you for not having a “compatible version of Windows”. Its rare, but some apps don’t like the enterprise editions.
My brother used to use enterprise windows 10 until he started having that vary issue with trying to play COD.
Damn, I guess he can’t play the same game that’s been rereleased annually for 20 years then huh. What a bummer
Iv already started seeing games with older versions of BE and EAC say consumer windows 10 isn’t supported any more and not working.
Trying to stay on windows 10 and be a gamer is quickly going to become a nightmare with more compatibility issues then Linux.
At this rate we’ll need a Wine/Proton that runs on Windows to allow you to run Windows software.
I haven’t experienced this with years of Enterprise use, but back when I was on Win 7 LTSC until its very end, I did get yelled at that my Windows was too old, even if it was still under official support. But then again I suppose devs don’t expect people to try to run games on heart monitors or industrial equipment xd (or whatever else LTSC is intended for)
I’m banking on the world ending before then. Or I get an incurable cancer. Either way, fuck Microsoft.
Or I get an incurable cancer.
So you are planning to upgrade?
I know, right! How can they expect to die from incurable cancer when we’ve got all the world’s compute devoted to curing it?
Damn dude… Cancer over Linux?
I got Linux, but like I have some OSs that rely on ancient shit I can’t get my addicted ass off of
Damn, a somewhat disenshittified Windows that still has support??
To shreds you say?
Me: Using 11 year old PC. Originally rjnning Windows 7. Now running ZorinOS.
I don’t particularly like linux, but…
looks at Windows 10…11…now 12…
Yeah, fuck that dumpster fire.
Congratulations for saving yourself from Winslopshitification
As long as you are not blasting away on random sites downloading every link you see then you are pretty safe. The old days of a hacker getting into your PC because you forgot to update your firewall are kind of gone.
Its not enough for me to see linux do better. Microslop needs to suffer.
I check the stock markets daily just waiting for that fkn line to drop even further.
Sloperating System
Petition to call Microsoft employees Sloppy Joes
However, newer processors with dedicated Neural Processing Units (NPUs) reduce strain on cloud servers and GPUs. As a result, PCWorld believes that CPUs, including Intel Core Ultra and AMD Ryzen AI chips that support 40 TOPS or more, will become mandatory
in other words, your pc will be doing ai shit for someone else’s pc while you are idle
They couldn’t afford enough electricity to run it in-house so now they just run a mandated botnet to make you pay for it instead. If this isn’t a page out of a George Orwell novel, it should have been.
2026 even has newspeak in the form of bullshit like “unalive”
That’s called algospeak.
AI@home baby!
I called it many years ago.
Wish I found somebody dumb enough to bet money against it. I’d be, like, dollars richer maybe.
Didn’t Microsoft try that one before?
That’s not at all what that means, nor does it make any sense.
Windows is already occupying your hardware and network with “telemetry”. I would be surprised if telemetry overhead alone was all that was needed to burden modern hardware and yet when i boot into windows those fans never shut up.
don’t forget to subscribe to our AI for $$/month, Microslop probably
So they’re going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.
The timing of this couldn’t be worse.
Pass the popcorn.
“Don’t worry about that, you can just run it in the cloud for an eternal subscription” - Microslop.
Or just spend a couple of months of growing pains slowly switching everything over to Linux and spend all that cash on something fun.
It’s probably apart of their internal strategy.
“Look, the consumer doesn’t want to buy hardware anymore… so let’s make Windows a cloud OS only! Subscription model and all! They’ll love that!”
Foreshadowing: we will hate it and either buy Macs or use Linux.
One of my 2 PCs already switched to linux because of mandatory TPM 2.0 for windows.
It’s like they want us to leave their ecosystem. Requiring hardware changes in the middle of a major component crisis, one that they are in no small part responsible for, is certainly a choice.
when one understands the unified and singular nature of existence, its easier to see how the greed driving the actions of those in power is also the necessary call for others to respond. with the call getting louder and more extreme, many are waking up to the truth of their reality. anyone hoping life will go back to normal will not survive the transformation, only those who embrace change as a necessary growth opportunity to overcome darker elements of our collective culture and experience. for example, we all understand the sickness if an individual pedo, but we have yet to fully expose and understand the breadth of the affliction. It will continue to reveal itself like an infected wound that can no longer be ignored and must be treated. so yes, they do want us to leave their platform only they don’t know it and they will only inspire a better one to be built with a purpose beyond individual gain. The enshitification is a blessing.
I think I’m too sober for this shit.
Brother, I hope so.
I feel like this is something the autistic brain notices a lot, and may regular folks not so much.
I’ll take this as a sign to continue converting as many of my friends and family to whichever Linux distro fits them best.
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Honest question. As someone who has used and loved MacOS for many years, what would be the best Linux distro for me?
For a new user, the most important things are usually a familiar feeling desktop environment, comprehensive default hardware support, and plenty of documentation in case you need it. The most important anti-things are needing to learn a bunch of new concepts right away, needing to use the command line, and experimental things that are known to break regularly.
Since you’re a Mac user, I would suggest KDE over Gnome for a desktop environment. Even though the default Gnome application bar looks very Mac-like and the default bar on KDE looks very windows-like, the rest of the KDE desktop feels much more Mac-like.
For the rest, you will want to use a common distro with a wide user base and a long history targeted at desktop users.
For those reasons, I would suggest either Kubuntu, or Fedora KDE.
Edit: When picking between those two, choose Kubuntu is you want to install the OS, and then not worry about major updates for several years. Pick Fedora if you want to have new features more often.
If you are ok with a more Windows-like desktop environment, Linux Mint is the go to option for an easy intro to Linux.
elementary os.
Stick with MacOS, Apple isn’t shitting the bed nearly as hard as MS(lop). If you really want to switch, Mint is nice as a starter, and Bazzite, while intended for gaming, is mich, much more solid than I expected and is totally usable as a daily driver.
Have you used the latest macOS 26? The UI is terrible and constant bugs and glitches with the new liquid glass look.
Been using bazzite nearly a year now. I also have mint installed thinking bazzite wouldn’t be a great daily. I was proven wrong. Bazzite is great.
I would sugest debian, it has the same “just works”-feel to it, and the gnome desktop environment shares some design philosophy with macos. The main downside is that it is often a couple of years behind on software updates. Is this is a dealbreaker, I recommend mint for all, fedora when you need redhat-only software and debian-sid if you feel adventurous.
All that said, if you have a good mac currently, it has the same UNIX-benefits as linux. Using “homebrew” as a package manager and “better touch tool” for the desktop tweaks solves most problems, this is what I do. You may of course want to run linux only software, if this is you then double check if you also need an x86-64 cpu (as opposed to arm) before reinstalling.
I think the most popular one is similar- Ubuntu
They haven’t even gotten everyone into 11 yet. They are tossing out another OS? Seems, dare I say, sloppy.
@oh_ @commander it was the same with me, vista, 8… until now was version ok, version shit, version ok again… I suspect it will become version shit from now on… with games working on linux good luck getting the ones that are lefting going back
How can anyone upgrade to a new PC when there is no Ram or hard disks available? This is a crazy time to try to push that.
I think this highlights Microsoft’s inability to connect with its customers even more than the AI and shit.
They really just do not give a shit about the consumer, at all.
Its insane people put up with it on their own personal machines I get for work or whatever.
Microsoft is absolutely fucking deranged just like that freak who’s leading them. Dealing with them as an enterprise customer is a fucking nightmare, their docs suck, their support, which you pay for btw, is adversarial just like their OS. I fucking hate Microsoft in my bones, so I love when I see them doing submental shit like this to themselves
SharePoint is the bane of my existence. Sorry, I can’t find the file you’re looking for because all the files are saved in one folder and fuck you for expecting the filter function to work. I hope you remember the exact filename and enjoy scrolling for 5 minutes.
The best thing about sharepoint is I can hook into PA and automate away most of the annoying parts of it
Never thought I’d miss bill gates, but jesus christ microsoft has been a spiral of awful ideas and terrible implementations since he stepped down.
They replaced their customer sales people with AI. Then AI decides the best use of hardware is on more AI…
The truth is that you and I are not their customer. The business to business sales are their primary concern, and many companies would be fine forking over a little extra cash for the “AI operating system”.
The average home user is an afterthought.
Agreed. I think it has gotten worse over time. Operating systems for consumer PCs are a mature market and they don’t really have commercial rivals. It’s Mac, Windows, or Linux and most people never really consider Linux. So, they use Windows to push their other products and not so much as a product in itself.
The infernal machine devours itself.
I’ll be the one to say it: switch to Linux
I guess you’ll just need to convert to proprietary cloud services
Good luck with that shit.
Making windows worse, AI, and forced CPU upgrades in this economy? There really is something for everyone to hate here.
With what silicon? Every business already invested in upgrades, try to do it again now with RAM as unobtainium? lol, LMAO even.
You’ll get an affordable dumb terminal with SaaS subscription and ID check.
