It does feel like the average person has the self control of a toddler.
I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless
Exactly. The people showing their real level of intellect are the people who seem to be unable to understand the facts of the situation, think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things, and call everyone else dumb and unintelligent for not agreeing with their factually incorrect opinion.
think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things,
Do you think corporations have your best interest in mind? The company who makes and sells GTA wants to make money. That’s it. That’s the sum total of their intent.
No, absolutely not, and I didn’t even hint at that.
I’m saying that Sony know the exact number of physical games that are printed and sold vs the number of digital games. They know that it’s 10:1 in favour of digital. That’s why they’re doing this. It’s best for their bottom line.
Dude, just how much do you enjoy the taste of boot leather?
Ah yes, one of the clearest ways to show your intelligence and how right you are is to go straight to calling people bootlickers. You sure showed me. Definitely not a sign of being more akin to a whiney child. Not at all.
You’re literally sucking boot for toxic corporate practices, what else do you call that if not a bootlicking?
Enjoy your slop.
Keep going with showing us all how intelligent you are.
Enjoy GTA6, cause we all know you’ll buy it 🤣
I don’t understand this. Do something else.
Somebody do something
Somebody find me somebody to love
Some BODY
It’s another Saturday night and I ain’t got!
Somebody do somebody
It’s more about personal principles and values, not self control. I make impulsive purchases all the time, but exactly 0% of them goes to scummy piece of shit corporations whose board of directors should be put on death row.
There’s an element of self control to sticking to values. I’ve seen people proclaim like they’re going to boycott EA because of various reasons, but then some shiny new game comes out and those values fall.
Maybe they never really had he values in the first place.
Most people just accept anything as “the way it is”. They can’t reason why things are the way they are beyond a certain point, and that’s well before they reach the point where they realize they are being taken advantage of.
It has to be a thing that has a very direct cause and effect for them to not accept it. Like COVID lockdowns for example.
The entire generation after the Millenials are impulsive and raised entirely on being nickeled and dimed to death.
I assume you’re being downvoted because this is true for every generation for the past 150 years, give or take. However, I agree that it’s gotten so much worse over the past ~20. Since phones, microtransactions, and subscriptions have become the norm, it’s accelerated to an astounding degree.
Didn’t even know I was honestly. I guess there is a nuance that comes with explaining a position like mine. It was 100% in sympathy of the newer generations, not an attack. They’re so overwhelmed with subscriptions, FOMO, and legally children’s gambling like loot boxes that it’s fucking depressing.
we ain’t getting paid in scrip yet. got paid in tacos a few times. those were some of the better gigs actually.
They charge they phones, eat hot chip, and lie.
GTA5 was out for like three years on PC before I bothered with it. I found it to be… fairly mediocre. There’s nothing in GTA6 that would make me feel otherwise. I’ll eventually play it… at great discount, or not at all.
Yeah I genuinely don’t understand the hype. Maybe I’m just old and fully saturated with GTA already.
nothing special but rabid fans and worth a billion dollars, it’s the Taylor Swift of video game franchises
yup they got the hype when they had the “florida edition”
Maybe but it’s also sloppified. I mean, a casino? Really? GTA V Online lost the irony and became just bad.
I liked it, but I only owned San Andreas, played a bit of IV and LCS, then V, so I haven’t really reached GTA fatigue yet
Nothing will ever top GTA 2 for me. That was such an awesome game. It was just stupidly fun.
It’s like people with windows computers who complain about Apple
Some people don’t understand the difference in quality as they lack taste
That’s certainly an opinion
Apple does some things well, Windows does some different things well, and increasingly, for the everyday users who mostly thought those were the only two choices, Linux does some things well.
It’s all about what you, the user, care about.
Braindead take.
Educated take, most people that complain about Apple have never really used them
False assumption. But if you want to be braindead then be my guest.
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I thought it was pretty cool, as a crass story, mockery of aspects of corporations and society, and as a driving sim. My least favourite part of any MMO is its griefing potential. Fallout 76 was okay because while you, a roleplayer/gamer interested in the game, still got hurt by griefers only interested in murdering other humans, it reduced damage to a miniscule level.
GTA V Online required that you either secede from society entirely with a private lobby or become a true pacifist, meaning no PvE. Later on they stopped selling exclusively weapon-free vehicles to players and the entertainment level of free roam for me dropped to zero. After that it became just a hub for racing, FPS or sitting in the apartment watching TV, all of which can be better achieved elsewhere.
The last good GTA game was GTA 2.
Well that’s a crazy take, you can just say you don’t like the Rockstar narrative open-world shooter style.
I can also say I didn’t want to buy it, but gta1 and 2 were great arcade games. They were ready to emulate too.
I don’t know why I played saints row and not gta. I blame zoidberg
Are we at the anti-rockstar coping phase where we pretend that most of their games are trash already? 🤣
GTA3 was revolutionary and legit one of the most important, best games of all time. Vice city was arguably even better of a game. 5 is just an insane open world, the likes which we’ve never seen in a game.
Now I say this as someone who has no interest in GTA6, got a free copy of GTA5 on 360 and sold it unopened, and hated GTA4, so don’t assume I’m some GTA fanboy.
Watched a video recently about how they engineered GTA3 to load this impression of an enormous city on the PS2’s miniscule amount of RAM. He showed how the city loads and unloads itself around the player, which was crazy genius for the time.
He also explains how because of those memory limitations, you could end up going to grab a sweet sports car and would suddenly find everyone else was driving one too lol.
It was by Game Maker’s Toolkit. https://youtu.be/cIbCxbrBCys?is=EtKDSUr8BcpU8tuK
I love stories like this and I’m not even big on GTA. I sure did like Saint’s Row 3 and 4 though. XD
Yep it was a genuine technical marvel. 4MB of VRAM and 32MB of system ram for that. Absolutely incredible.
People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don’t, so here we are.
It’s kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.
I’ve come to terms with this. I view fomo content as disrespectful and I do not support the companies that use it as a tactic.
I missed out on Helldivers 2 because I’m on Linux now and I’m NOT putting that shitty kernel-level rootkit on my system over a game.
Which really sucked, having enjoyed Helldivers 1 a ton, and seeing all my Steam friends playing it. :(
Last I heard HD2 works fine with proton hotfix
Nice! Buuut what about “n protect gameguard”? Does it sandbox it or…?
This might just show how little I know, but how would it be running kernel level Anticheat? Steam isn’t running as sudo and I assume that you’d need those permissions. I thought games that required kernel anti-cheat simply didn’t work on Linux.
Well there have been some strides. Games using EAC (Easy Anti-Cheat) seem to work fine now. EAC tends to be more acceptable because it’s well known that it shuts down as soon as the game is quit.
A lot of these other solutions like Riot’s thingy or whatever Battlefield 6 uses, seem to enjoy (and insist upon) running even while the game isn’t, which is positively sus.
So yeah in the case of Nprotect, I really don’t know. I’ve heard on Windows it’s pretty invasive and jank though, with the usual security assurance of “Lol just trust us bro.”
It’d be neat if it would be contained on a Linux system but also…wouldn’t that void the point? It seems they wouldn’t be satisfied with allowing Linux players if that were the case.
The uncertainty is the frustrating part. =\
People are desperate to latch on to any morsel of media that can distract them from our burning planet, our exploitative society, and their resultant miserable life
Thats why they dont have control, they need this desperately
Idk how this was downvoted. This plays an extremely heavy influence on people’s decisions.
No one wants to hear it because its them too
At some point though you have to accept that if the vast majority are ok with something, it’s probably not an actual issue.
You don’t have to like it or agree with it, and you have the ability to vote with your wallet. Digital only people have been voting with their wallet for years, and physical copy buyers haven’t.
This is a defeatist mindset.
Most people accept the enshittification of the world because they do not know better or they just go with the flow. This is why we have so many problems outside of gaming as well.
Most people weighed up the pros and cons of digital vs physical, chose digital, and haven’t looked back. There is no “do not know better”. Hundreds of millions of people think digital is better. Pc has been all digital for an eternity and it’s been going great.
"oh it’s popular, so it must be okay’
What an utterly braindead take.
It’s more like “Over 90% of people chose this path by their own free will, and are happy enough with it that they choose to continue doing it rather than stop, so it’s not inherently bad like I think it is”.
Only someone who is brain dead could not understand that.
You’re literally engaging in the popularity fallacy. You’re an braindead idiot who just wants to suck corporate boot.
Word of advice: when you start quoting a fallacy, you’re wrong almost every time.
Oh look, more fallacious logic.
You’re two for two.
Or
Buy official or pirated physical disc media, pay $0 after optional initial purchase, forever own purchased or pirated+torrented movies
You have to protect your rights, no one else will
GTA VI will have no official physical media :(
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One problem. I don’t speak lao and that’s the language in all the dvd menus on our Hitchcock box set
Come on, mate, Lao is only one language, it can’t be that hard. 😄
Post-covid inflation proved to companies that customers will pay up regardless because they want it and they want it now, no matter the price. Hell, we laughed at horse armor but microtransactions caught on anyway. Voting with your wallet doesn’t work because there are an endless swarm of consoomers itching to blow their money on product.
Sad reality
Do not preorder anything ever
Especially digital stuff. What are they going to do, run out of bytes?
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Cyberpunk 2077 was the last game I’ll ever pre-order. I’m more of a wait for the complete edition to go on sale kind of guy now.
Yepp I learned that lesson with Destiny 2
Oh I’ll preorder from soft games. Preorder when you trust the source and they don’t have a history of fuckery.
I get what your saying, but companies will cash out your trust for money eventually, just a matter of them needing a good quarter
100% but I’d like to think companies tend to telegraph their bullshittery enough in advance that unless you have blinders on you’ll see it
I just pre-ordered fallout 6!!! Even though fallout 5 will never see the light of day /j obv
GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.
Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you’re not paying for a new gaming experience, it’s essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.
In that sense you’ll get the same thrills from past games. That’s also why I didn’t give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.
I think it’s only survived because it is in this niche of socially acceptable “cool” games. You can admit to playing GTA to almost anyone and your not as much a “gamng nerd”, but if you like a fantasy RPG your some basement dwelling dweeb. Honestly they are not all that different from each other.
different story, visual upgrades, newer cars
Just spitballing here, but isn’t that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?
Replacing “cars” with whatever is game-appropriate, of course
My idiot brother learned the term “fetch quest” and then snobbed himself right out of gaming. He couldn’t see anything happening around “go here, interact with mcguffin, go back”
The family grew up loving Sierra games, especially stuff made by the Coles, so I don’t know where he got that.
Technically correct. Why play any other game if you’ve played Fallout? It’s all going somewhere to get a thing to do a thing! I’ve been screwed this whole time!
Let’s also not forget that much of the talent that built GTA from 1 to 5 left Rockstar and did not work on 6. So there’s no reason to believe it will even be as good as the rest of the series has been.
Source?
What percentage of developers stayed from 3 to 4? 4 to 5? 5 to 6?
We know next to nothing about GTA6. It could be a revolutionary game for all we know. It could be the greatest game of all time.
Its going to be middle of the road
A very pretty very expensive game
Big. Large. Empty
Go to point A then point B shoot these guys that just spawned in… Oh you thought the huge open world would allow you to do interesting stuff? No you Just do the same as back in 2003. But now in
4K900P upscaled 30fps lockedMaybe, maybe not. We don’t know, that’s my point.
Rockstar has not deviated since the PS2 why would they now
You think they’ve done nothing but “go here shoot bunch of guys” since the PS2?
I’m down with a boycott. Let’s do it.
This is how it will go:
Probably. A man can dream of successful collective action though.
Hold on, we need a boycott song. We want it about gta or boycotts?
edit i’ve decided. can’t go wrong with buffalo springfield
I still haven’t played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven’t gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.
Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:
They’re fine.
The hype is inordinate
I felt GTA V was boring, and it had unnecessary glamorisation of criminal life. The story was also pretty mid.
I really liked GTA IV, especially the DLCs, the story is intertwined with the three characters really well. The driving was much more realistic in 4.
I don’t have the GTA IV DLCs. Just the original PS3 disc.
I could have sworn it was Elaine
edit well that’s not what i was expecting but i’m leaving itLOL was gonna say that doesn’t sound like Stan 😂
Kind of random but I hope they do the game comparisons not just with GTA 4 & 5 but also GTA clones like Watchdogs or even Cyberpunk 2077.
For all the graphical “upgrades” we’ve gotten, the physics and dynamic open world has fallen far behind.
What’s the point of all that graphic fidelity if NPCs still act like scripted bots from Skyrim?
I was an adventurer too, until I took an arrow to the knee.
Gamers are so impatient these days. I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
I still remember when you ordered physical games via mail and had to gulp actually wait a 1-2 weeks for delivery.
Either that or actually go into a store.
Back then you really looked forward to a game and you actually played and finished it. Also, patches or updates were either rare or non existent depending on the platform, so Devs actually had to release a complete game. There were no DLCs, there were expansion packs, if anything.
I never understood people who need to have a game or a piece of hardware on release day. There will always be bugs. When it comes to hardware, I always wait for at least one revision, before I pull the trigger. As for games, I no longer pay more than 20€ for a game. It’s on my wishlist, I only care about the single player experience, my backlog is huge, sales happen all the time,… I can wait.
I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
And FOMO. I think many active gamers follow youtubers and other gaming content on social media, so they’re afraid of spoilers too.
I don’t think the “no patches” thing was all that true for PC games. I’ve been gaming since the first Fallout and for practically every game I could/had to download one or more patches from the official website. For multiplayer games like Warcraft 3 you had to make sure everyone was using the same patch. One of the major advantages of Steam was automating the update process.
It’s been that way for a while, but before the usenet turned into the internet it was hard to download shit. Especially compared to now
I’ve been gaming since the late 80s. This was before people had internet. Patches for games were very rare on PC back then. If anything, the developer had to re-release a game to stores. Consoles of course didn’t really get that capability until the PS3 era.
When CD-ROM games became common people still only had dial-up internet, if at all and patches were very rare back then.
It was just a different mindset back then. Companies actually took the time to polish their games before release.
I’m out. I know that it wont amount to much in the grand scheme of things. I switched from a pure Playstation background (owned 1 through 5 on release day and had hundreds of games for each generation) over to PC. I wont partake in this, and I have spent thousands of hours with GTA.
Between Playatation being shitty and now Rockstar being extra shitty, I’m out.
That’s the reason we can’t have nice things: the MoFos that will follow along when Evil Inc. does evil thing because they just can’t live without the latest wrinkle.
Rockstar peaked with Red Dead Redemption 2.
They peaked with their last game they released? And you know this how?
Because the GTA remastered trilogy was a joke and Rockstar had several notorious employment issues in the 8 years since RDR2 released.
I mean it’s entirely possible they could rebound but this game has every rug pull flag written all over it.
Rockstar didn’t make the remastered trilogy.
Rockstar peaked with Table Tennis.
Unironically their best game. All my friends though it’s a joke when i wanted to play withe them.
True next gen game
Is rockstar owned by Sony?
