Is some idiot trying to outlaw medical equipment in the States?
Mayor of New York
I thought he was trying to reinstate a pre-Covid ban and it has exceptions for wearing masks for medical reasons?
It’s not just about the disabled person, but anyone who lives with them needs to be wearing masks in public places because if they get sick it’s pretty hard to avoid spreading at home.
Medical exemptions have never been good enough.
I mean that whole idea is stupid. I’m still wearing masks on occasion. I don’t want to spread my mild flu to all the coworkers in the office, crowded train etc… I think we should do it like in some asian countries, where you’d just stop the flu spreading to some degree. Since you can’t stay at home all the time and that’s kind of contagious…
And the only benefit is that some dystopian total video surveillance keeps working…
Super stupid. Most everyone who wears a mask wears it for medical reasons. It’s none of our business whether they’re disabled or just don’t want to catch/spread a cold. It’s not even our business if they’re wearing it for non-medical reasons- I’m sometimes more comfortable in public in a mask and sunglasses so I don’t have to autism-mask as much.
I mean, masks are medical devices. That’s kinda what they’re for. Banning them is just supporting the disease.
Sounds like a good case for Work From Home more than anything
Thx. Seems I’m not too bad off, not following the news that closely… 😔
North Carolina already passed the law.
https://apnews.com/article/masks-ban-north-carolina-campus-protests-128a6aa32a4c832faa83befb2e7dd77e
Nice… Using a law that was meant for the Ku Klux Klan to repress democratic routine and freedom. At least that one seems to be targeted at protests and not all every day life. And it contains exemptions. I’m just not sure if “we want to film the faces of everyone who doesn’t agree with us” is a valid reason in a democracy. At least not on it’s own and if there isn’t some good reason to do it.
Lol what a bunch of reactionary hicks
Victoria government in Australia
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
High risk individuals rely on others wearing their mask to protect them from infection. Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe. Hopefully they have the money to pay for deliveries for the season.
I can’t believe we are you still have to explain this in 2024. I have zero faith in humanity left, aside from Luigi ofc.
The reason they want you to not wear masks is, facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked. You can help protect the vulnerable and yourself from invasive tracking with this one simple trick.
facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked.
Afaik that’s illegal within the EU. Also, there’s more than just facial recognition. They can even learn the way you walk.
Yeah there is way more digital human recognition going on than we all like to acknowledge here in the states.
I must admit I’m super jealous of you Europeans. I’m very happy that you ladies and gents over there have a more formed and functional governance and your not yet in our predicament.
Watching a documentary of the first peoples of Ireland and wish I could be there instead of here right now.
The EU can be extremely bipolar unfortunately, see the chat control debate currently. I’m actually surprised with how many decent shit gets through sometimes, considering how most of the EU parliaments are mostly made up of conservatives or worse.
Just be thankful that your right wing is the equivalent of our left wing here in the states. We don’t even have a left wing, just right and batshit crazy. I do follow as much European news as I can and I do see we are exporting our specific brand of batshit. I hope it never gets its footing.
The reason I don’t want you to wear masks is I don’t like being surrounded by faces I can’t read.
Yep I’ve had a cold all last week and have been masking up for my grocery runs. It’s just about being a decent human being.
The people who ban masks are so self centered that they think a masked person assumes that they are sick, or dirty. They never even comprehend that it might be to help them, because they don’t understand helping people
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
While this is generally true, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that a properly-fitted respirator provides very good protection. Even more so if it’s an elastomeric with P100 filters (99.97% PFE with absurdly high fit factors).
But…
You’re absolutely right, if everyone would consistently wear at least an earloop respirator like a KF94 or KN95 — even if the quality is a bit sketchy and even if the fit is less than ideal — that would cut down on viral particulate emissions a great deal and task your own respirator with orders of magnitude less particulate to filter out.
I wear a P100 because I can’t trust my fellow Americans to wear so much as a scarf.
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
It’s more effective for others to wear them than for you to wear them. But it is still beneficial to wear a mask outside when you’re at risk of contagion, assuming you pair it with hand sanitizer and other preventative measures.
Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe.
At some point, telling people not to leave their homes if they want any kind of safety, but denying them access to medical equipment because it makes you feel unsafe only serves to deflect responsibility from the able-bodied to the vulnerable.
It would be like telling people in wheelchairs that ramps make me feel clumsy so you just shouldn’t leave your house if you want full mobility.
Exactly. I find it strange that someone who’s immune system is compromised to the point where a ‘common cold’ can kill them has been just hanging out in public and it’s only a problem now. Masks weren’t invented in 2020. Op is likely farming Internet points.
I’ve had a compromised immune system before. Going out in public and trusting a mask to protect me would be like wearing safety goggles when you jump into a wood chipper.
An N95 mask protects the wearer too.
It does, and you should wear it. But if you are immunocompromised (like me) you also need to protect your eyes, and wash your clothes, skin, and hair following a trip out in public. The days when people were wearing masks were wonderful.
All true! But it’s not all-or-nothing either - reducing the viral load of the initial infection actually reduces the severity of the symptoms by reducing the load on the immune system. An infection picked up from clothes will be much less severe than one directly inhaled into the lungs.
Sometimes going out in public is necessary, such as to the doctor, or to get food if there’s not someone to help with that. And sometimes it requires passing through other public spaces, such as public transportation. A person can have no illusions about the degree to which masks help, but still depend on them because what else is there?
As the spouse and caregiver of a compromised person, I wear a KN95 anytime I go into a store or other indoor public space, to try to avoid catching and bringing home anything that might land him in the hospital again.
Yeah. Clearly, they should just stay inside their plastic bubbles and never see the sun so that the rest of us don’t have to worry about coughing in other people’s faces.
Anti-maskers are like 6 year olds throwing a tantrum because you’re making them eat broccoli.
More like because you’re eating broccoli.
If it’s a complete mask ban, then it’s more like they’re throwing a tantrum because you’re eating broccoli.
Those who oppose it for themselves during a pandemic are just children refusing to do their part to help others.
Those who oppose it for others are sex perverts. They oppose masks solely because they want to be able to see the faces of random people in the street so they can commit them to memory and later masturbate to them. Really they belong on the sex offender registry.
Umm… You should talk to someone.
Found the sex pervert!
Since you’re acting like a child, I don’t feel as silly saying this thought that came to mind while reading your absurd take:
“Takes one to know one!”
The mayor of NYC is talking about it because of Luigi. My brother in Christ, Luigi doesn’t care about your mask ban.
Ok, Mayor Adams, you’re in favor of a mask ban.
So anyway, back to what we were talking about, why haven’t you resigned despite being indicted for corruption and influence-peddling?
Just start coughing. NYC remembers 2020.
is this under the assumption that this isn’t the point? they’re fascists, getting rid of disabled people is on brand and purposeful.
reminder that the party of “death panels will kill your grandma if anyone gets affordable healthcare” actively called for the death of grandmas when they didn’t want to be inconvenienced by a piece of cloth over their mouth.
They know, they don’t care.
American individualist propaganda has a load of people believing they’re free to do whatever the fuck they like, and fuck anyone who tries to stop them.
Selflessness is a rejected concept to them, they will never productively participate in a community of people.
Individualism for me, fashion police for you!
if only there was some sort of word for a political movement that weaponized the trappings of individual liberties in the name of killing marginalized people. i do nazi myself thinking of one
damn you just made some gears spin in my head
I think capitalism promotes “individualism” because the alternative is selflessness which means more money spent for the greater good of society
It took a long time, but one day, the term “human capital” finally clicked in my head and I couldn’t stop mulling it over until I realized how insanely fucked up it is. What are the humans? Capital. What is the capital? Humans. Human. Capital. And we’re so blase about it.
Whatever the fuck I like includes wearing masks. Also dresses. Fight me.
Stop talking about selflessness, start talking about selfishness, because wearing a mask is perfectly selfish. Yes it’s selfless, too, of course. But not wearing one isn’t selfish, it’s just dumb. If they were competent and proactive at selfishness they’d be aggressively demanding that everybody wear masks.
Seems like you could get this shit struck down by challenging it in court based on the ADA
not with republican filled courts lol
lets turn this around on them. they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
they’re trying to cancel Halloween! what’s next, Christmas?!
they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
I’m more than confident that the NYPD will make an exception for something that’s lucrative to Big Business. The issue is that medical masks outside of one day in October aren’t highly profitable, while CCTV cameras on every corner and AI facial recognition running across a thousand enormous data centers absolutely is.
Can’t justify the enormous state investment in spying if these high profile assassinations demonstrate the holes in the system. So we just make masks illegal (except on the one day when it makes businesses money) and tell people with weak immune systems to eat shit.
I’ll make an exception for police who aren’t in my field of vision to live.
Given the popularity of anti mask overlapping with fundamentalist they would ban Halloween. Possibility even Christmas as the only holiday we are authorized to celebrate is the Lord’s Day, Sunday.
It’s also permissible to celebrate the 4th of July when Jesus came down from Heaven with the Constitution on stone tablets and gave them to the founding fathers.
Who is banning masks?!?
Nassau County in NY state passed a law this summer https://www.nyclu.org/press-release/nassau-county-mask-ban-signed-into-law YES, there are exceptions for health, religious or cultural reasons BUT they’ve also used it as probable cause to search someone https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nassau-county-police-issue-first-face-mask-ban-violation/5741363/ (it doesn’t matter that he was found with a knife. My son wears a mask because he thinks his nose is ugly)
Fuckin’ shit-ass Nassau, of course they did.
I know someone who wears one because a lifetime of depression caused them not to take care of their teeth, and so they don’t want to be judged even more poorly for that.
I haven’t seen his nose, but I bet it’s bold and beautiful. I wish him luck on his mental health journey!
In the UK we have the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 section 60aa where the police are able to make anyone within an area remove a mask when a there is a large crowd and a senior cop decides to fill in the paperaorj. There has been a recent increase in its usage in the last 4-ish years.
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Wrong. There’s the governor of NY and also NC. https://apnews.com/article/masks-ban-north-carolina-campus-protests-128a6aa32a4c832faa83befb2e7dd77e
I mean, there were pushes to ban masks by republicans during the pandemic. And whenever the plebs get unruly and start protesting, local politicians start talking about banning masks so protestors (or anyone even near the protest) can be arrested even if they’re peaceful.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the kind of people to say that disabled people are a burden to society
As a disabled person you’re spot on.
It’s the kind of people saying that disabled people should just “get on with their life” and stop “making everything about their disability”.
Like yeah sure Bradley, I would do that, if I could get on with my life because c*nts like you didn’t deny every attempt at making the world accessible. Maybe if people like you didn’t complain every time a cent was spent on an accessibility fund or on medical research I would actually be able to be getting on with my life.
But no, since we’re treated like shit I have to make “everything about my disability” just for my basic survival. Because if I don’t I’ll just be left in a ditch to starve.
I fear by “get on with life” they might just mean “end your life”.
That’s what it feels like to me.
It’s something like “Live as if you weren’t disabled because you making your disability visible bothers me. And if you’re unable to do that, well either stay in an institution where you belong or if you can’t afford that you should just die”
Get on with your life = status quo worship
Disabled people were some of the first German gas chamber victims.
Banning masks only serves to increase the overreach of our surveillance state.
This is clearly a proposition intended to remove anonymity from any future shooters in NYC.
You saw the camera footage. It’s as watched as CCTV in London, apparently.
Tell me about it…if you have certain less obvious disabilities, you are 100% screwed, even in a liberal society.
Love to the poster, I don’t agree with these views, but this argument would fall completely flat because they think disabled people should just die if they’re “too weak”. If you can just don’t go to these places because they’re run by delusional people at best and Nazis at worst.
When my (then) 4 yo was undergoing chemo I had a goto line I used often when people would comment on my mask:
You’re right. I should let my kid who has no immune system because he’s on chemo for cancer treatment just die then, right?
Honestly, if you’re still masking and get flak, just say the above anyhow. You have my permission.
Mask bans are cruel. Maybe they should ban eyeglasses.
I agree. What I’m trying to point out is that we’re dealing with incredible amounts of Hitler particles with these people and we’re past the point of reason.
And sick people should wear them too when they go into stores. But where is this actually a topic anyway? I’ve not heard much of anything regarding masks since the pandemic.
What do you mean, “since”? COVID is still running freaking riot. We just stopped acknowledging it.
The pandemic is still over. Covid became endemic and there’s both vaccinations and medications for it now, while the latest strains are also much less problematic than the first ones. People since then have stopped wearing masks. I may see like one person a year with a mask.
Endemic is not an improvement on the situation. It’s just an acknowledgement that we were inadequate to deal with it when it was reasonably possible, and are giving up now. I don’t leave the house without a P100, because my species appears to be insane.
No, but it still means the pandemic is over. The flu is endemic too, and many other diseases are as well. What really would help is if those people who are sick would wear masks when they enter publicly accessible buildings or talk to people. That’s pretty much the main reason why those diseases persist. But people already failed to do that during the pandemic, which is how it became endemic.
And yes, people are insane. We see this on their voting behavior too. And now we’re gonna slide into a climate collapse. Because that’s apparently what we want, as long as we can pretend to be a little comfortable for a while longer.
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