Yeah, calling the only black dude Shacklebolt as well. The more you look the worse it gets.
Even the Irish kid gets worse in the books. Apart from making things explode, his other notable character trait is repeatedly trying to turn various drinks into whiskey.
As and American I’m also trying to turn various drinks into whiskey.
Distilleries also have the danger of exploding.
Oh goodness, I never thought of that.
And the bank goblins being Jewish caricatures
And now about the transfem character Sirona Ryan.
I don’t think she was involved in writing Hogwarts Legacy to be fair, just put her stamp of bigot approval on it. Although whoever was writing certainly stuck to her naming conventions.
Broken clock right?
Broken clock is broken, yes
Jesus fucking Christ what? there was a character named shacklebolt???
Kingsly Shacklebolt, i believe he was the personal assistant to the prime minister. His most famous quote: “dumbledores got style”
Not the only black character in harry potter btw
“Not the only black character in harry potter btw”
Yeah everyone forgets about Hermione
Black Hermione? What
JK pushed a tweet out explaining that she always envisioned Hermione as a black girl.
It was at the beginning of her descent into madness.
That makes the whole SPEW thing even more hilarious. Imagine a black girl starts a campaign to end slavery of house elves, and everybody makes fun of her. The fucking author’s position ins that the elves actually prefer slavery and Hermione is stupid for trying to end that.
I swear y’all talk out your ass so much of the time, I get Rowling is a shitty terf but lying about content of the books is just stupid.
Harry freeing dobby is a major plot point
I would watch a black Hermione rip Harry and Ron some new ones.
Off topic, but I dig black Velma in the reboot.
Sorry to disappoint, but Velma is Indian in the reboot, as Mindy Kaling is Indian.
Like a lot of the worst stuff in the book, it didn’t make it into the movies I think.
reminds me of “spear chucker” on MASH.
In the book, just like in the movie, Spearchucker reveals that the nickname “Spearchucker”, ordinarily a racial slur, referred in this case to his javelin-throwing prowess.
They use the racism behind his nickname to address racism:
The film also depicts Spearchucker as a particularly skilled neurosurgeon and this, together with the experience of playing football together, helps Duke Forrest overcome his racial prejudices and the two become friends at the end, shaking hands when it is time for Duke to go back stateside.
There was a book!?
Nah… come on… please, let that not have been a conscious thing
Mate, there’s so many weird or disturbing things in the books that didn’t make it into the movies.
You can’t just leave us hanging like that?
Well, there’s stuff like how the book insists that most house elves are happy being slaves, Dobby was the exception. And how it makes fun of Hermione for trying to free them.
If you want a full analysis, Shaun did a good one.
Is it true that the centaur from movie 1 had more lines than all the black characters in all 7 books?
And then modern fans get mad at black Snape in the TV show (if that gets to finish. My bets is it will patter out like the fantastic beasts movies)
Fans get mad about black Snape because it would instantly make Harry look like an ultra racist without rewriting half the book.
I believe you, but how so? I’ve not read the books.
Because half the plot of the books are Harry being suspicious of Snape based on basically just looks and a gut feeling at first and then hating him progressively as the books go on.
You can picture it in your mind “Oh Snape is very sketchy, he looks different then all the other professors. I know he is a bad person… I am going to prove it” with the visual background that he is like the only black professor and just one of a few black wizards shown.
black Snape in the TV show
lmfao, there’s a TV show??
Yeah, so that they can sell merch without paying royalties to the actors from the original movies, who didn’t align with her bigotry.
Misread this as (Rusty) Shackleford.
Cho Chang
Those are at least actual popular Chinese names, as Chinese people mention every time this comes up on Reddit.
You’re California pretty
You’re really really skinny
(Cho-Chang!)
You’re cuter than a guinea piiiig
'l’ll take you down to Winnipeg
That’s in Canada!That sounds really nice! How should I pack?
Like this -pantomimes packing-
The Troubles was so long ago for me that the character quirk went over my head.
Allow me to hit you with my cane. The Manchester blast was fucking loud.
…wut
Thank you kindly for the links, I was just about to search for the Manchester Bombing, if I’m being honest I thought “The Troubles” was the name of a book or movie. I didn’t realize they gave such a non-chillant name to such a bloody conflict. Suddenly the meme makes sense though!
Thanks again!
It tends to attract negative attention if you admit there’s a civil war going on.
In the future, we’ll look back sadly on the current Times of Greatness.
According to the White House - this is the “Golden Age”.
They never really did.
Also I never really used Google. I am a duckduckgo or brave search or even startpage type of guy.
Just FYI - Startpage is also using Google’s search index, so you’re kind of also “googling”.
Probably why I dont really use it. Duckduckgo and brave.
In general, there are two main search indexes: Google’s and Bing’s, with a bunch of smaller ones here and there.
DDG uses Bing and Yahoo, mainly. Their own index is relatively small.
Brave says they use their own index.
Brave is also just google/chrome in another packaging.
What exactly in the above sentence would have suggested to the average person that they should Google search the troubles?
Or are you saying any time I see a nonsensical sentence I should just stop what I’m doing and google search the whole thing?What exactly in the above sentence would have suggested to the average person that they should Google search the troubles?
Well, I am still under the - maybe naive - impression that people understand context.
If one user writes about “The Troubles” (capitalised), and another mentions “the Manchester blast”, my expectation was that a person is able to put 2 and 2 together and google “The Troubles Manchester blast” at the very least.
The films added the stereotypes. They made the goblins hooked nosed and added a Star of David decoration to the greengots bank floor.
It’s not in the books but Rowling still had huge control over the film so retains responsibility.
That’s not a star of david, and it wasn’t added for the film. That’s the floor of the Freemasons Hall in London.
That’s not a star of david
The masonic seal of Solomon is directly referencing the star of David.
it wasn’t added for the film.
The location was chosen for the film and the 6 pointed star was in shot unaltered.
That’s the floor of the Freemasons Hall in London.
Its filmed in Australia House.
But maybe don’t include the floor in the center shot when you’re already being accused of antisemitism.
She’s also derivative as hell, but children’s lit doesn’t get real deep reviews, and we were all too busy defending it from Christianity to really notice.
The erasure of Worst Witch is a crime.
starring Tim Curry? how have i missed this
As a child I read Groosham Grange from Anthony Horowitz, and when I first heard a description of Harry Potter, I thought that they were describing that book from Horowitz. I can’t believe no one else noticed. But I also think that most people active in children’s literature will have an attitude of “anything that gets a child reading, is a good thing”, so they’re not that upset about poor quality being popular and they’d rather keep the positive vibe going.
Oh that’s interesting! I hadn’t heard of that series, but I adored the Alex Rider books as a kid. Horowitz’s children’s books at least feel well written.
Im so glad she has no idea what Mexicans or latinos are. We would have gotten “Jose frijoles” a Mexican wizard with a moustache and hat who throws a spanish word into every sentence.
I don’t know if I’m laughing art JKR’s racism or at that funny racist sketch.
It’s ok to laugh at satire of racists 👍
Ok I know I shouldnt have, but that did make me chuckle.
There’s no “shouldn’t have” here. We can laugh at these things. This was a joke about how badly JKR writes foreigners, not a joke about the race it depicts.
There are good and bad jokes about racial stereotypes. Are we making fun of Mexicans or are we making fun of racist peoples’ stereotypes about Mexicans? I’d argue this joke was the latter.
If she wrote a South East Asian she probably would name it Coolieboy Sambal. Who is an errand boy of one of teachers who tries to tame the boy and make him less “savage”
I’m not so sure, I think the Irish would be proud of their history of making things explode.
Guessing it’s due to the IRA bombings?
Correct.
Only some of them, it’s very divisive I think. Can an Irish lad confirm?
Its divisive in Ireland.
Opinions on everything from that time vary widely.
Im born and reared in Cork btw.
The more South you go the less divisive it gets.
The further south you go the more people who have been generationally tortured by the brits and their northern tools
They see me (rowling), they hating. Trying to catch me writing dirty…
This made me laugh way harder than it should’ve, bwahaha
I find it amazing that she can be so fucking tone deaf.
Like, wasn’t half of your entire best-selling series about equality/prejudice, you daft fucking terf? Pretty sure there was a whole lot about the unfair treatment of house elves and muggle-borns. Pretty sure that first antagonist we meet (aside from the Dudley’s) is a poster-child for Hitler Youth.
Pretty sure there was a whole lot about the unfair treatment of house elves
no, the house elves loved being slaves and hermione was being hysterical for fighting for their rights.
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The difference between Palestinians and house elves is that Palestinians don’t like being in a concentration camp that is constantly being bombarded by its guards.
House elves like being servile and the thing that struck Hermione the most is that many owners took advantage of their servitude by using them as a valve to live out their sadism. Hermione’s biggest flaw was that her goals were all over the place and it would have been better to just cross out the cruel treatment of the elves by pursuing a protection law similar to the law to “protect” muggles. Protect in quotes here because wizards and witches (especially the adult ones) are batshit fucking insane and care much more about their secrecy than the victims of the crime. Meddling with shit like health care and wages for house elves, which they don’t even want, is pointless.
Which is also amazing because she is simultaneously a target herself for being muggle-born. To the point that she had to erase herself from her own parents memories.
Meanwhile in the real world, bigotry is still common among oppressed groups. See also: racism in LGBT communities, self-hating Jews, Catholics/Protestants, close-the-border 1st and 2nd gen immigrants etc.
Yes, but Hermione was one of the good ones and the system found her and elevated her.
She basically stole materials from all kinds of various books, she doesnt even know the themes she’s writing about.
I’m surprised he wasn’t also black.
She’d call him Kwame Kongo
Edit: omg I forgot about Shacklebolt
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There’s no way you people would think she’s racist if she wasn’t transphobic.
She was very accepting of Hermione being cast as a black girl. Seamus was just used as comedic relief in the movies, much moreso than in the books, with his magical mistakes causing explosions being primarily when he was a kid. He was loyal and high achieving character.
Meanwhile, the blonde character who uses the offense slur “mudblood” is the childhood villain for most the books. Yet she is racist for this somehow too, I imagine.
she had a reputation for racial stereotyping even before she went mask-off as a terf, decades back. like naming the one Asian character Cho Chang (sounds like ching chang chong; both names are from different Asian countries), naming the one Black character Kingsley Shacklebolt (King from MLK, shackle from slavery), naming the Jewish character Anthony Goldstein, naming an Irish character Seamus Finnegan…
…it’s not that she was necessarily super racist, she just used very stereotypical/over the top names for her characters. so I don’t hate her for being racist, I hate her for being transphobic.
About Cho Chang though, she actually looked up the meanings and choose Cho because it meant butterfly. I’ve never really associated that character’s name as a play on the racist stereotype, being Oriental myself. I’ve just associated it with general western ignorance.
As abhorrent as she is now, she was a queer ally but just didn’t understand trans, like many people around her age and demographic. She reacted to the massive backlash and drove herself into the weeds.
She’s horrible now and deserves all the hate but know that she’s a result of our own making. I think if any new people express a misunderstanding, it’s far better to make a bridge to correct that misunderstanding. It takes a lot on our part, trans and trans allies, but I’d rather make a friend out of a fool than a foolish enemy.
I think there’s a lot of truth to what you’re saying, though there’s a little more to the story. for reasons I don’t understand, the UK specifically has always been terfier than other Western countries. more lgb-friendly, but historically anti-trans. MumsNet was full of terfs with very similar demographics to Rowling years before trans awareness hit the spotlight.
I think we did a poor job educating potential allies and making a case for ourselves, in a way that got weaponized against us, but terf ideology is as old as Janice Raymond and second-wave feminism. I’m not sure Rowling specifically would have ever been on board.
And to be fair, not all of those are equally bad. Seamus Finnagan and Anthony Goldstein could very well be real people. The other two are so much worse, especially now that you’ve made me realise the slavery connection.
There’s no way you people would think she’s racist
That’s mainly because she was hyped up for so long and she didn’t go all out, but it wasn’t long until someone noticed the Gringot’s bankers were Jewish Stereotypes and some of the names were a bit iffy. But I think it really was a “Little Britain” situation where we didn’t get it until the second read through.
Also, in her books for adults, she’s gone mask off, especially against Mixed Race people.
YOU’RE DOING THAT THING THAT REDDITORS DO
I know this is just a meme but isn’t this scene of Seamus Finnigan a movie only scene?
There are plenty of reasons to shit on JK Rowling, but shouldn’t this one be on the director? (Assuming it was done on purpose.)
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That bank Harry goes to has a Star of David on the floor. The bank staffed by hideous trolls. It is genuinely funny just how bigoted this women, and by extension the director(s) have been this entire time.
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K I was misinformed thanks for informing me,want a medal you self righteous cunt?Now, lets see you double down. Cos we all know you people cant ever admit you are wrong about something. This will be fun…
Excuse me, who is “you people”?
EDIT: It is a star of david that is why the location was chosen. this guy is a bigot booster who wants to curate hate against (((you people)))
proof that this is the reason the location was chosen? to be it looks like a cool looking bank that’s big enough to film in comfortably
When I say “You people” I mean spoon eating cunts, that cant think for themselves and just roam around the internet bashing their fucking skulls into the keyboard hoping to get upvotes, because their self worth is so fucking low that its the only way they can feel good about themselves.
As double downs go… yikes.
because their self worth is so fucking low that its the only way they can feel good about themselves.
That one of those accusations that is a confession, right? Fuck off you self loathing cunt.
No, dude. Thats one of those observations, you dim fuckwit. Honestly, your efforts here, are beyond embarrassing. You might as well be hitting back with “Im rubber, youre glue…” youre so fucking weak. Honestly, your comeback are so fucking weak, can I only assume that your parents didnt give enough of a fuck about you to bother teaching you anything. As long as youve got functional kidneys they can harvest for the child they do like, thats the only reason they keep you around.
Your comeback to this will probably be something like “haha, Im only child, stupidhead!”. Thats your level. Thats where you top out. And thats why you cant admit you were wrong. Because the weak minded are terrified of being wrong. They just hold on to shit like squirrels hold onto nuts in the winter. Your self worth, your self value is so fucking pathetic, youve jumped into this argument with false information, but refuse to admit that you got it wrong, because then youd have to part ways with your support team. All the other cave brained cunts who look for anything they can to shit on JK, instead of just focusing on what she actually says and does on the issues that you… SAY, you have an issue with.
But lets be honest, if you were to fall into a gang of racist proud boys, youd be shoving a dildo up your arse to “own the libs” right now, would ya? Thats you. Thats who you are. Or as the Jewish people would say, “Youre a shmuck.” meaning discarded penis skin after a circumcision. Except that they wouldnt say that, because thats not what it means. Thats just something the internet made up and spread around, and muppets like you repeated to the point that everyone thinks its true. Whats it like being THAT fucking stupid? Whats it like being so fucking stupid, that your sibling hopes their kidneys hold up because the idea of having any part of you inside them is terrifying in case you infect them with your stupid?
Go on, say something witty now. Something that the internet has told you is super clever… Im sure it will be worth the wait, wont it spare parts?
It would seem you are misinformed the location was chosen for the it’s floor’s likeness to the Star of David, and as you mentioned it was done on purpose.
Link?
There’s no Star of David, but the description of the goblins is pretty suspect.
not ever hexagram is a Star of David. like JK Rowling is racist as shit but that one is just how the real place looks
So… Stereotypes are OK as long as they aren’t “mean spirited?”
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It may also be interesting for you to learn that Puerto Ricans can hang from steel beams for hours.
Well, how does he feel about taytoes? That’s how you can really tell.
