Best match
Sure thing, bud 😂
It even recognized the local app that matches, how on earth is this a better match
What is more infuriating is that they frequently don’t show the app / applet you are actually looking for until after they load a web result - which results in your muscle memory and just hitting enter working against you.
It’s all relative. Best match for their user analytics. So they get good numbers to show user engagement in their board meetings.
Accidental clicks are engineered to juice those numbers too.
One pays MS per click.
I keep a small Win11 partition on my 2022 gaming laptop in case I need to take a cert exam or use a gov website, and I booted it for updating for the first time in 6 months. It took over 6 hours and 6 reboots to update! At one point, it was going bu-ding every minute from random notifications so I had to mute it.
Meanwhile, my 2012 Thinkpad T420 needed a full Fedora version upgrade, and that finished in 15 minutes.
No wonder MS is losing users
I have a machine in my garage that gets used for music and the random football game. Starting it up after being down even a few weeks starts the churn of updates. It’s annoying.
Just in case you don’t know, unless it changed last time I checked, some organizations like Comptia didn’t allow computers with dual boot to be used to pass a cert exam.
I assure you my (virtual) machine only has windows on it.
Thinkpad is the tank of laptops.
tbf if you didn’t update fedora for 6 months you may aswell downlaod a new iso and they also do the windows reboot screens for no reason
And I bet you it pulled the right Terminal as you typed “term” but as you finish it, it pulls this bullshit.
Is there a word for “a thoughtless action by someone else so incidentally awful that you can’t help but wonder if it’s intentional”?
I mean, I don’t think they’re intentionally engineering it to delay EXACTLY the amount of time it takes for me to begin the process of clicking. That would take thoughtfulness, strategy, research, etc…… right?
…right?
The Germans have a word for that, I think they call it Microsoft…
This happens on (mobile) websites all the time. It is infuriating.
Powertoys and that debloating scripts does wonders to make w11 usable.
Problem that powertoys are becoming bloated too. Before switching my 8gb RAM laptop to Linux, it was constantly swapping memory. I investigated and it was powertoys slowly eating everything. The two almost identical launchers, 300mb each. The eyedropper that you gonna use once a month 200mb, the help that comes out when you long press the windows key, another 80mb. Same for the screen ruler. Then the accent helper, and so on. My 8gb laptop only had 1 GB free Memory After a clean boot
Isn’t that the entire point of swap? If you’re only gonna access that memory once a month what’s wrong with it swapping to disk but becoming ready within seconds when you go to use it?
Dude, Windows swaps like it’s its job.
The job of swap is to be used after the RAM is full or is about to be full. It’s not to be used instead of the RAM.
I bet SSDs were a huge freaking performance boost for Windows generally speaking because of the way it swaps.
Cries in ready boost
Yes but when it’s too much… The poor SSD in my 8gb laptop was constantly at 65°C because of all the activity. And it seems without reason. I would hear the warning sounds from crystaldiskinfo when “idle” in another room
Lol, I remember power toys from freaking tucows.com (it used to be a software repository of sorts) in the nineties.
Windows and power toys, two relics from the ICQ age.
the ICQ age
There’s a blast from the past. Uh oh!
Man, I think I still had an active Fark account more recently than I visited tucows but I remember it.
or when you speed type something and it just opens edge and searches bing for the app you tried to open
so much “user friendly”
at least you get something, on my work computer, i get an empty window when i search
i have a couple of QR codes with “qr” in the file name… guess im not allowed to use 'em anymore
if you’re searching for files on windows, Everything is the tool you need
Is it as good as Google desktop was?
I have never heard about Google desktop before
It’s an older code but it checks out
KDE’s Plasma Desktop has a web search plugin that I use all the time. Typing the Win (Super) key followed by
wp:Sistine Chapeland then the Enter key brings me straight to the Wikipedia entry on the Sistine Chapel.imdb:Jurassic Parkbrings me to the IMDb page for Jurassic Park.yt:will search YouTube, and so on. There are around 200 keywords pre-programmed into it, including for searching programming language documentation. Unlike the Windows feature displayed here, it doesn’t use the network unless you specify a prefix and it accesses only the service you specify by the keyword. Whoever added this feature had to do so very little work compared to the payoff. It just takes the part after the colon and inserts it into a search URL for the corresponding service and opens that URL in the browser. It’s very convenient. None of this web search stuff comes up when you’re just searching for apps and there are no surprises.Yes but this doesn’t generate ad revenue!
/S
Doesn’t anyone think about shareholders!?!!1!
I like that if I type an application (the main reason I type in that window) that I don’t have yet, rather than some nonsense like this it gives me a shortcut to the application IN the package manager.
KRunner is awesome
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
- The movie snippet somehow has bigger weight for ordering - why would that ever be preferred?
- The ordering is random?
- The movie snippet is faster than App and Folder snippets?
It’s incredible how incompetent Microsoft is.
The bigger weight is anything that MS can sell for ad revenue.
They just use the profit amount as the weight and sort descending
I genuinely think you might be right.
but in this example clearly Wikipedia and probably IMDB are not paying them right? Or is it their attempt to disguise selling out by always preferring the buyable option even when it’s at 0$?
IMDB might be, they’re covered in trackers and ads. MS is a donor to Wikipedia (via Microsoft Matching Gifts Program) so they’re getting what they paid for.
but IMDB is owned by direct Microsoft competitor - Amazon.
They’re not really competitors across both enterprises. If they were then you’d need some conspiracy theory-level mental gymnastics for things like:
https://aws.amazon.com/windows/products/
And finally
https://advertising.amazon.com/library/news/microsoft-amazon-dsp-partnership
This isn’t Coke vs. Pepsi for computer boops. This is about ad revenue! They can partner up to cut Google out of the mix!
So they ruin their own product for what? For traffic to their billionaire buddy?
…are you serious? I know this is Linux Memes, but have you ever used Windows 11? MS has been ruining their own products for years. 1/3 of their janky code is LLMs constantly causing problems.
Even without any nefarious motives, they just do dumb stuff like that. I have Clone Hero installed. Whenever I press Super/Windows and I start typing ‘clon’, the FIRST thing that comes up is ‘Control Panel’, Clone Hero being the second guess.
So whenever I want to quickly start the game, I type ‘clon’, press enter, then get annoyed by the lack of Clone Hero and an unwelcome Control Panel window.
Outside the quite small bubble of nerds that is Lemmy and software developers/admins in general a random person is more likely to want the movie than the terminal app.
Highly doubt that
I have never seen a person who uses Windows search instead of a browser to search the web, and I doubt anyone actually does. Even the people you mentioned.
Is Terminal installed by default? I feel like I had to go out and get it manually. It’s a single application with a UI to PowerShell, Windows Command Prompt, WSL, and any other terminals you might have. Maybe Windows 11 has it by default? But I feel like if someone has gone out of their way to install the application, Windows should definitely not be showing a web search result over it.
No clue tbh, I’ve been mainly using Linux for about 17 years now
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
As a guy who runs the Windows environment at work and doesn’t see any of that shit at all - neither at work, nor on my extended family’s devices - I also wonder, how does this even happen?
The Person deciding only uses web services, so why should those pesky systems apps be showed first?
My point was that the only time I ever see anything like this happen, is when people complain about it online.
I’ve managed around 10-20k Windows devices since Windows 10 came out. I’ve never seen a web search take priority over apps search. I’m honestly baffled as to where people are getting these screenshots from.
Haha, sorry, just realised that I read the comment completely wrong somehow
But to your comment, i have experienced that windows is trying to sort personalised, so order changes based on what you frequently use
I recognised that because i need to help my coworkers often and while the amount of letters needed to show me the app I need varies a lot
Ahh, maybe that’s why! Interesting! Also interesting how people end up in that situation and then complain about it online…
We all know how reliable AI is 😄 (personalised sorting is AI as well)
Personalised sorting is very much not AI. Unless you’re suggesting we’ve had AI since the early 90s?
it happens by installing windows 11 home or probwithout running a decrapification script or applying gpos to disable it
None of the Win11 Home, nor Pro instances I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a lot) had that issue.
I did notice, however, that people complaining about were going very quiet very fast when asked if they used a “debloater” or some such…
Theyve been rolling out intellisense for the terminal in Vscode, it’s completely breaking tab complete for me.
2025? I don’t remember the search in the start menu working correctly since windows 8
Open start menu:
Windows: TODAY IS THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF TOAST BREAD!! want to know more?
Kinda yeah
ahem Linux.
Thank you.
Am I the only person that still types “command” in the search? It’s windows who is typing “terminal”?
Yes I know it’s a terminal, but it’s never been called that AFAIK. It’s always been the command prompt.
The newest windows terminal is called “terminal”.
I used to type “cwd”, but after installing terminal, I type “terminal”. Probably same situation for OP.
chronic wasting disease does seem appropriate for windows
My M turned upside down. I’m leaving it like this
It’s
wt.exe. You should just be able to runwt.
Not long now until you see this:
Best Match
Today I typed “power” for powershell and I got this : https://www.imdb.com/fr/title/tt3281796/
I type “CMD” or “power”
CMD
power
We Just Can’t Win
wtf. 😂
Power gives you the power series, LOL
Damn it.
ctrl+r “cmd” return
for me
Win + x, then i. If you want admin hit a instead of i.
Adding websearch to the start bar’s search was solving a problem that didn’t exist. If I want to search the web, I can use a web browser to do it. I feel like it was added to try to make up for how bad the search used to be (and still is? I just never really had a habit of using it because it was so unreliable and depended on other ways to figure out where things were), so that it would give something, plus MS really wanted bing to be a thing.
I recently switched to KDE and their main search bar also includes web search. I haven’t looked at the settings for it and expect there’s probably a way to disable that, but I didn’t feel great about seeing that there.
It’s like, I get the idea of saying “this user is searching for a program they don’t have, let’s link to it” but then they’re like “oh what if we searched for everything?” and then someone else is was like “And what if we put ads in to monetize it!” Then that last person probably got a bonus.
I honestly don’t mind the fact there’s search there. I do mind the fact that there are any circumstances in which it would default to the web search over a correctly-spelled (or even a correct partial-match) application on my computer. That should never happen.
Its pumping up those Edge numbers!
Use Everything! search for Windows. Literally one of the strongest points of NTFS is lightning fast indexing, using tools like Everything and WizTree. The only things I miss on Linux. Oh also AutoHotKey.
I just set the Everything window to appear on ALT+3 (I have found this to be a very useful shortcut because it’s rarely used by anything else and is easy to reach quickly)(some function keys also work well for it), you just type, it highlights, you press enter, you’re done. And so many sorting options.
Windows: has lightning fast native indexing with ntfs Also windows: implements worst out of the box GUI search tool possible
Windows: searches bing before ntfs
Everything is what I use for files
Windows search is what I use for applications
AutoKey is an alternative to AutoHotKey, from what I understand. Haven’t gotten around to it yet, but at least it uses a proper programming language instead of the abomination that is AutoHotKey’s scripting lang.
But nothing beats Hammerspoon which is the analogue for MacOS. Lua programming, sizeable library of OS integrations, built-in http server. Ah, what a beauty it is.
Debian or Gnome seem to have some kind of semi usable search in the gui. It can find files in multiple places by name, wildcard etc but I’m not sure what it can see. Everything is great on Win.
man locateHow common it is across distros I couldn’t tell you, but it’s been a staple on Mint for a good long while and ought to be available everywhere. Basically wherever I’d use
findI trylocatefirst, unless it’s for a file that’s expected to be very new and hasn’t been indexed by the daemon yet.
