• Alteon@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I love seeing these comics. You can always count on like 20 white males showing up asking how this is funny, that it’s a strawman, that pizzacake is terrible, blah blah blah.

    The simple thing is, they are comics that give a flavor of the times. Males ARE acting this way. Is it a caricature of a scenario, sure, but that’s what a fucking comic is. Does it have to be “funny” in order to be a comic? No, there are political comics everywhere. Why does pizzacake only get this sort of ire? Is it because she’s calling out white males on the absurdity of their actions, and they don’t like it?

    My advice? Chill TF out bros. It’s a comic. If you don’t like it, maybe you should talk to your buddies when they start acting like Andrew Taint’s mouthpiece. Toxic masculinity is a real issue. Sorry that it takes a fucking pizzacake comic to discuss it…

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      As a white male, I’m not going to disagree with you on any of this.

      Related to the content: personally I like opinionated, loud mouthed women. I don’t classify myself as a “high value” male or anything. I mean, who the fuck is that arrogant? I’m not poor, but I’m certainly not rich. I’m much closer to being poor than I am to being rich… But that doesn’t say much.

      In any case, the content is funny. It’s an exaggeration of the kind of reaction that people tend to have to dickwads sharing their unsolicited opinions with strangers who don’t care what you think.

      I love that it is shining a big fat spotlight on the shitty behaviors that self proclaimed “high value men” think is ok. It’s not ok. Stop it. Get some help.

      It’s shameful to share a gender with these degenerates. I am ashamed of my gender because people like the one depicted in the comic, exist. And they’re not a trivial amount either. There’s a good number of them, and it’s fucking embarrassing.

      To anyone butthurt about the contents of the comic: first, relax, it’s a joke. Second, how about you treat everyone like they’re a fucking human being? Instead of putting people into little boxes like “high value” or “male” or “female” or whatever, how about you throw all that bullshit out and just see humans. Regardless of race, gender, preferences, religion, anatomical features, disabilities… They’re all human beings deserving of some measure of respect. And don’t give me any shit about “respect is earned”… Fuck you. You need to have a basic level of respect before you can prove yourself as someone deserving of respect; otherwise any action you take will be seen as the feeble flailings of someone nobody cares about to earn some kind of clout.

      Everyone should be given a base level of respect until they prove that the respect granted to them for being a human in our society, isn’t deserved.

      For everyone else who may still be reading and didn’t get butthurt by a comic: stay frosty.

    • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
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      The description that resonates with me is that you agree with what she says but cringe at how she says it. I think it really comes down to the fact that the comics are never deeper than surface level. I’d enjoy them if my takeaway was ever more than “well, yeah…”

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        Tbh the planet is full of obnoxious, insufferable, outright cunty artists of all stripes…but it’s this one that’s a personal affront.

        Gee. Wonder why.

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      The issue with pizzacake is that her behavior demonstrates that she doesn’t oppose this kind of behavior because it’s wrong, she opposes it because it’s directed at her.

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    At first, I thought people were exaggerating by calling her comics a strawman, as the situation mentioned in the comic above happens too commonly.

    I did a little digging and found this deleted thread.

    https://archive.is/xfVPD

    To my surprise she turned out exactly like people she seems to be calling out.

    Edit: added url

    Edit 2: She didn’t respond and went radio silent on people who shared their experience and called her out.

    Edit 3 : Found this in the same thread

    lol, this feels like the convo in a nutshell…

    Alice: “Bob, I’ll bet you could never imagine what it would feel like if X happened to you.”

    Bob: “Actually X has happened to me.”

    Alice: “Jesus fucking Christ, Bob! Not everything’s about you!”

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    Anyone else going to bring up the fact she’s clutching the side of her chest without her heart?

    Unless she’s a time lord.

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    According to these commenters and bingo cards anyone who criticized this artist is an incel. To me she just makes mid borderline lame/cringe comics. Was happy not seeing her stuff after leaving Reddit lo and behold shes back with comics denoting imaginary scenarios without any punchlines. Go ahead and check a bingo square and call me an incel her work sucks.

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      It’s taking the piss out of Andrew Tate and the gullible guys that he’s convinced are superior to women.

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      From all the trending news articles, ten year old boys who got access to tik tok

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          Yeah, shittiest shit stains figured out they could blast on Tik Tok. And Tik Tok sees no problem inserting these videos between “why do we use cinnamon on everything” and “why is the sky blue”

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            iirc, doesn’t china explicitly not allow such shit on their version of tiktok? so it’s just letting america cut their own throat basically?

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      Just look at this thread. How many people in this thread are acting superior to her because she has an only fans or because of some other stupid reddit reason. The people are acting “high valued” and superior even if they dont say it. She’s literally using this comment to tell readers that these peoples opinions have no influence on her life, and all its doing is making them more upset. To me, that’s why this comic is funny

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        I’m surprised people are being offended by the comic. Just because it’s about a narcissistic asshole who never grew up after high school, doesn’t mean that represents everyone.

        I took it as a “Don’t judge a book by its cover” kind of message. Also loved the humor of the woman’s sarcasm. Why do people have to make it about race or gender?

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      Gestures wildly at the men, many in positions of power, around the world, who very obviously would do that.

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    Honestly if someone is referring to themselves as “high value” anything then it’s pretty clearly a low value thought. Doesn’t really matter who they are.

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    I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.

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      Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.

      Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow

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      From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/

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      Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).

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        I can see this as a twitter exchange for sure but irl it seems very shower thoughtesque. It could be that a very online person framed it as an irl thing and that what’s jarring.

        Then again I am not a woman and cannot speak to that experience.

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          Why is a typically online interaction being shown as if in person so jarring? If anything, the interaction happening online where they would be unlikely to date anyways makes it even weirder when someone says it.

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            That is true it is weird af online too. Such a weird thing the way online and in person discourse is so divergent.

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          There is a whole generation of men being indoctrinated right now that believe women shouldn’t have any rights. Most feminist women on Instagram that I have seen have gotten a multitude of rape and murder threats.

          It is nice for you if you never noticed the rampant sexism and general hatefulness that people on the internet show against any minorities they find but I’ve seen several instances of similar exchanges as shown in this comic just in the last two weeks.

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            Sure, misogyny exists. I’m talking about somebody referring to themselves as “high value” and calling the person they’re talking to a “loud-mouthed, opinionated wench”. It’s just really heavy-handed dialogue.

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              Those people unironically say stuff like “I wouldn’t even rape you” and call women that don’t look like they are about to die of anorexia fat. They exist in spades, Lemmy just isn’t the right kind of social media for those people to come out with such stuff (except for maybe this post).

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    Probably just because she’s constantly on the front page of Reddit. I had blocked her there which solved the problem for me. But if she starts getting reposted a lot here there’s no escaping it.

    Not to downplay the fact that there are some loud mysogynists. But there are legitimate artistic crituques that shouldn’t be lumped in with them.

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    Lemmy got a bit worse lately sadly

    Truth to be said Lemmy has negative resistance to bad actors due to its nature and implementation.

    If we treat social media like stock market then fundamental analysis of Lemmy does not bode well for long term investment so to speak.

    Or to put it yet another way. Lemmy is less shitty than reddit and that says a lot about how enshittified and unusable Reddit is in 2025

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    Why is it that everytime I see this artist nowadays it’s just a preachy kill-a-strawman comic? I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened? Did they change, did I? Am I mistaking a shite copycat for an artist I remember fondly? Is this what senility feels like? How was your day?