• ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space
    828·
    11 days ago

    I think Americans caring about there heritage lives rent free in too many European heads. It doesn’t affect anyone’s day to day, and explains some weird idiosyncrasies in life.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    English
    52·
    11 days ago

    I’ve got Irish heritage. My dentist asked me about it because I have a red beard (brown hair). She explained that people with red hair are less responsive to Novocain. I always knew I wasn’t bullshitting that the dentist hurt me as a teen. Finally, proof!

    • LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      19·
      11 days ago

      Not only Novocain, but lots of different types of anesthesia. Im a ginger and have woken up in several procedures, even after warning the doctor I probably would.

    • jcg@halubilo.social
      31·
      11 days ago

      I suppose you can’t blame your earlier dentists, though. How were they supposed to know? And if they automatically treated redheads differently, would that be racism?

      • DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz
        5·
        11 days ago

        It’s not racist to treat patients differently when you’re talking about how likely they are to react to drugs. Children/teens tend to become bewildered and/or violent when waking up from anesthesia. It’s not ageist to prepare for a worse case scenario by calling all hands on deck to hold them down to prevent injury.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          11 days ago

          Young men come up fighting as well. My ex-wife worked in surgery and got punched a few times. Don’t know what I’d be like now, but as a young men, back the hell up from the bed.

        • joel_feila@lemmy.world
          3·
          10 days ago

          It is how ever a dick when dad grounds you because you did that in a haze of post anesthesia that you can’t remember at all and had no control over

      • why_not_start_over@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 days ago

        Isn’t a racism judging someone’s character based on ethnic heritage or physical expression rather than, you know, their character?

        Medical predisposition, nah that’s racist!

  • Sergio@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    11 days ago

    Guatemala is awesome. The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity’s major civilizations, the Mayans.

    I realize OP is only half-serious, but they still come off as really ignorant.

    • I'm_All_NEET:3@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      9 days ago

      How did I come across as “ignorant” Take this from someone who has been to Guatemala. Anyone who knows anything about Guatemala would say what I said.

      “The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity’s major civilizations, the Mayans.”

      You can cherry pick nice places from anywhere. Places like Mexico, Baltimore, South Africa, Brazil, Detroit and Guatemala have have some nice places here and there but let’s be honest like most of South America it’s a poverty filled shithole and most Guatemalans/South Americans would even agree with me on that.

  • paranoia@feddit.dk
    232·
    11 days ago

    What a fucking weird and racist post. “not even the Irish want to be Irish”

    • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
      4·
      10 days ago

      Looks like it’s just trying to be controversial. The Irish are fine, they have nothing to be ashamed of and lots to be proud of. Most of the world either doesn’t know who they are or loves them.

    • BlueFootedPetey@sh.itjust.works
      32·
      11 days ago

      It really is. As an American with some Irish, (if its a white from eastern europe it turned up on our dna test thingy) Im not sure if I or actual Irish people should be more offended.

    • Revan343@lemmy.ca
      44·
      11 days ago

      The Irish have had a very shitty troubled past, is probably what they’re getting at

      • paranoia@feddit.dk
        111·
        11 days ago

        Nah, don’t agree. They established a hierarchy of “good nationalities” to be and put others like Irish and Lithuanian below them.

        • I'm_All_NEET:3@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          9 days ago

          I didn’t establish a hierarchy of nationalities. It’s like I’m saying it’s bad to be Irish or Lithuanian in a moral sense I’m saying it’s bad from the perspective of a Irish or Lithuanian person. Both Ireland and Lithuania are pretty shit tier countries and are very miserable places to live.

  • DrSoap@lemmy.world
    211·
    11 days ago

    I have a friend who came over from Moscow and is an immigrant to the U.S. herself. A few years ago she started telling me she has Irish heritage and she knows it because she felt it in her bones and can see it in her dreams. Now she goes twice a year to ‘reconnect with her roots.’ She was so confident that she did a 23andme and it showed that she was 99% of her heritage with a 1% broadly european. That 1% is what she is now claiming is her Irish portion.

    I don’t know. I really don’t even know.

  • supernicepojo@lemmy.world
    202·
    11 days ago

    We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture, we look to our pasts and see what it is our families have come from. So many Irish came here, for so many reasons, the cultural heritage barely came with it, leaving a big gaping hole in what we tend to identify ourselves with.

    I like to use the analogy of the Native American Indian who was displaced and massacred, captured and forced to go to Indoctrination camps as children. Where they applied the “kill the indian, save the child” methodology, abhorrent to think of, its not far off from cultural genocide.

    So, we look back and find our parents and grandparents nationalities, where they have come from, we adopt what little we know of what it means to be Irish. All thats left here is Irish bars and St Patricks Day, Boston and Chicago. Americans will happily tell you about their heritage but its not a long story to tell. We are the children of immigrants striving to find a way to make a home and anyone else to connect with for community.

    • Godric@lemmy.world
      112·
      11 days ago

      I agree with 99% of you comment but

      We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture

      Is just plain false.

      American TV, film, music, fashion, food, technology food and to a lesser extent sports are so influential on the world stage they aren’t even thought of as American half the time.

      Like it or not, half the world’s wearing blue jeans drinking coca cola watching Hollywood movies or posting about it on shitter while rock or rap plays in the background.

      • supernicepojo@lemmy.world
        91·
        11 days ago

        I thought that would be the point I would get called out on. I tried to phrase it around what capitalism makes, its such a short sighted cultural influence that bears very little of what we internalize. I see our American influence everywhere, but we still lack something more concrete to anchor our individual identities.

  • tamal3@lemmy.world
    171·
    11 days ago

    Citizenship question: my grandfather’s parents were born in Ireland. My grandfather, who didn’t know he had been adopted until much later in life (by a Jewish woman), became an Irish citizen in his 50s and had dual citizenship until his death.

    As a desperate American… can I get Irish citizenship through my grandfather, a naturalized Irish citizen who was not born in Ireland?? I can (understandably) not find an answer to this on the Irish citizenship website.

    Sincerely, an American who spent 12 hours protesting at a No Kings rally yesterday

    • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      11 days ago

      I don’t think so, it has to be more direct IIRC. I’ve been looking into it too, for the same reasons. My Great Grandmother emigrated here… nope.

    • Bruncvik@lemmy.world
      4·
      11 days ago

      One of your grandparents had to be born in Ireland, not just obtained Irish citizenship later in life. If he was born in Ireland, you’ll need his original birth certificate. More info here.

      That said, I have a few formerly US coworkers who did get Irish citizenship by naturalization. That requires life in Ireland for at least 5 out of the last 9 years. Studying doesn’t count, so you’ll either have your current employer transfer you here, or you’ll find a job and move here. Your employer will apply for a 2-year work visa, which can be extended for another 3 years, after which you can apply for permanent residency. If you are employed in one of the critical skills jobs, you can apply for permanent residency in less than 2 years.

  • Bruncvik@lemmy.world
    15·
    11 days ago

    It’s the same nonsense as invoking “the luck of the Irish”. Said by people who have absolutely no idea about Irish history.

    • Krauerking@lemy.lol
      9·
      11 days ago

      Darn those extra lucky Irish.

      In Fact it’s well known that they fought overwhelming on the north side of the US civil war because they knew which side was gonna win from their luck, and it had nothing to do with recognizing slavery as another form of the serfdom they just escaped from.

  • Mist101@lemmy.world
    13·
    11 days ago

    Uh, 'scuse me, I am proud to be Irish ~and Scottish, both from about 400 years back~ I take pride in my heritage by regularly listening to Celtic music.

  • psychadlligoat@piefed.socialEnglish
    11·
    11 days ago

    I use it to explain my massive capacity for alcohol

    “I’m scotch/Irish on one side and German on the other, 3 generations both sides and they bred in the community until my parents!” as I’m on my third boot and finally starting to slur my speech lol

  • RedFrank24@lemmy.world
    9·
    10 days ago

    They want to be European, but don’t want the stink of colonialism, whilst also feeling like rebels, so Ireland it is!

  • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
    8·
    10 days ago

    Irish and Italians are interesting because they were historically considered ‘colored’ or at least on the same societal rung as colored people.

  • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
    7·
    11 days ago

    My wee Irish grandmother would take issue with this. Her pride was more about being Catholic, but she was definitely Irish. Soda bread. Weird Easter pastries. Ya, cabbage and alcohol too. Just little bits and bobs of Irish culture.

    … Um … I personally claim that I’m a European mutt. Drunkards all.