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1-2 weeks every 12-18 months is seen as a lot? No one tell them about europe 😶
I guess everyone is doing macro-retirement every year in EU.
Isn’t that like a short holiday?
In my home country a legal minimum is 4 weeks a year, so 1-2 weeks is half or a quarter of a holiday if you take it at once :3
Or if you split it into 2 parts you get 2 weeks off every 6 months instead of 12-18
In my US state state employees get:
- about 10 or 11 holidays, can’t remember
- two weeks of sick leave that accumulates if you don’t use it
- a week (?) vacation that increases over time to max out at 3 weeks vac at 15 years (does max out, is use or lose it and using is encouraged)
Private employers have NO legal requirement to offer any time off.
The disconnect between public and private benefits requirements are ridiculous.
I think we have 15 holidays we get a day off for, a month of paid vacation time from the start, aaaand infinite sick leave :3… and maternity and paternity leave, plus unpaid time off if you want that for some reason :p
Federal is a little better, 10-11 holidays, and 30 days vacation, plus 2 weeks of pure sick leave. But you are not encouraged to take holidays.
We get 4 weeks annual leave plus 2 weeks of public holidays
Ultra short holiday. I get seven weeks paid, usually take four off in a row nowadays and spread the rest around Christmas or whenever I feel I need to rest up from work.
No one tell them about the majority of countries.
Real :3
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You guys get vacations? Next you’ll tell me you get holidays off too or something…🫠
Well it’s either holidays off or double pay :3
What the fuck is this gaslighting propaganda bullshit? People in the US have been taking vacations for decades; it’s not exclusive to GenZ, nor is it a “new trend”. I call bullshit.
Quiet quitting is just doing your job/acting your wage.
People on the internet love to make dramatic sounding names for normal stuff.
CONTENT! ENGAGEMENT!!
‘This New Trend Called …’ is to Gen Z what ‘Breaking News: …’ is to Boomers: it won’t really impact your life straight away but still you feel you should listen to that FOMO calling.
Back in my day when the news said we killed an industry we actually did it
To be fair, “quiet quitting” is a labour action that goes back decades if not centuries. A more common name is “work(ing) to rule”.
I remember that term from when my teachers were preparing to strike a long while ago. The fact is, most workers, teachers especially, go beyond the bare minimums that their jobs require. It made a big difference when teachers who used to supervise after-school activities just went home instead. In jobs that are associated with “vocational awe”, it’s very common for people to do much more than the minimum requirements for their jobs, so when they engage in a “work to rule” campaign, there’s a really big difference.
Yes, that is the same thing as
doing your job/acting your wage
Except “doing your job” doesn’t capture that it’s a deliberate change in how you perform at your job, and “acting your wage” is a newfangled way of saying the long established term, with its on Wikipedia page, “Work to Rule”.
it’s just a new term for something that exists.
no idea why it was every a big deal.
now everything is a culture war for engagement.
was there any drama when we started calling “beouf” “beef”?
Not only was there drama people couldn’t talk about the beouf they’d gotten into without starting it up again
Speak for yourself. I’m all in on this trend and have even begun taking nano-retirements for about 16h each day.
taking a piss now counts as pico retirement.
Yeah I mean, you wouldn’t have any tourism aside from rich folks otherwise
that’s the contradiction inherent I’m the system, congrats, you win 5 Marx points
You were young and stupid once. You know perfectly well that back then whenever you did something for the first time it was also the first time anyone in the entire history of the universe had done that thing.
You’re wrong. NObOdY wAnT WokR anYmORe
Is the original satire? I know Americans are obsessed with presentism on the job, but even they understand the concept of a vacation?
It’s hard to tell. I’ve worked at places that would definitely fire me for using a week of vacation, and legally in my state vacation isn’t a tangible guaranteed thing; it’s completely legal to just fire the employee instead if they try to use it without compensation. Practically some jobs don’t have time off. You just get fired.
My work offered a compressed work week for a few years where employees could work the same number of hours over 9 days every fortnight, meaning they could take every second Friday off still working the same number of hours. Employees based in NA didn’t get that benefit, instead of trying to get that implemented over there NA employees were practically celebrating when the company recently scrapped it everywhere else instead.
My experience of American work culture is very much toxic crab-in-a-bucket mentality, pull everyone else down instead of trying to make work life the littlest bit more bearable, ironically directly contradicting the company’s slogan. The amount of brown-nosing sycophants on all-teams calls is pretty insane too.
So yes, I very much believe this is something American media would say.
What the fuck, it isn’t satire? And other sites are writing articles on it?
Not satire: https://www.fastcompany.com/91357784/what-is-a-micro-retirement-inside-the-latest-gen-z-trend
But they specify that unlike PTO, this is an unpaid time off, which can be a break inbetween jobs or a unpaid vacation.
Still fucking ridiculous to call it “micro-retirement”
Soon we will hear how gen z is having nano-retirements every 5 days of work that can include 2 days of no work and often destructive behaviour such as parties and binge watching tv.
What about those eight hours at night? I mean people hardly even think about work while they are dreaming.
I think its called a nightmare usually
You mean my pico-retirement? Sometimes i lay thinking awake before i start it and yes, sometimes I have thought about work during it and yes sometimes I think about what the day holds just after coming out of it - but that’s why you need to have a nano-retiremtent after every four to five pico-reti’s you know.
I also try to stack them if I found myself to occupied with work. I’ll allow myself a pico during a nano for example, instead of raving all night I choose to do some self-care. It’s really about finding the right balance. Please leave a like and subscribe for more meaningful insights.
We need to abolish zepto-retirements (thinking about anything that isn’t work while not yet retired)
Don’t be too quick to judge what previous generations referred to as a lunch break, a replenished body can really help keep the workers functioning! ;)
Literally time theft, off with your head!
It’s bad enough they get your waking life for minimum wage, but now they get your dreams for free.
I once had a dream that Steve Irwin had come in and wanted a tattoo of a budgie. Does that count?
Sounds like a billable hour to me.
I think they may have confused some terms here. Among my peers in engineering it’s quite common to take a few months between jobs to travel or relax. They usually call it funemployment. I totally get why one would want to take a longer break assuming you have sufficient savings before you quit. What this article seems to be describing is just unpaid vacation because we don’t have real vacation policies in the US.
Hi, Norwegian here, we have 5 weeks vacation per year, mandated by law. Oh, and the government takes 10% of your paycheck every month and pays it all out in July, so you have the money to go on vacation. Strong labor unions is the recipe.
American here. I work for a company that gives 5 weeks per year. It’s great. I can take a 1-2 week vacation in the summer and various days and weeks off throughout the year. It doesn’t hurt that my boss is great and almost never says no to time off. “Hey, this project is draining. I could really use a week off for mental recovery. It looks like nobody is off next week.” “Go for it.”
It’s possible, fellow Americans. Unions are the way.
5 weeks seems like a good minimum to shoot for, yeah. Even with technically “unlimited” vacation, I tended to take 1 week a quarter, 2 in the summer, and then whatever Christmas to New Year’s is. I wish I could take more in the Summer of course, but it is what it is.
aussie here. 4 weeks. required by law.
I’m probably going to move out of Austria in a few months and the one thing that’ll take a while to get used to is that in most other European countries you ‘only’ get 13 wages a year instead of the 14 I’m used to.
5 weeks
Is this why you guys won’t join the EU, because you’ll be forced to get humane amounts of leave instead of the pittance you somehow survive on? :P
My vacation money usually goes to taxes each year as a Dutch citizen.
It’s a sick joke imo. “Here’s the money we took from your wage for vacation, but also here are the tax bills that are equal to that amount”.
Thanks i hate it.
I’m saving up my own wage for retirement and investing it myself because i have zero trust in these systems. I watched my dad get screwed out of a large part of his retirement money.
Nationalised oil probably helps too
No, it is pretty standard European fare.
5 weeks by law in Finland as well
We have pumpkin seed oil in Austria, and apparently its enough to give us 5 weeks PTO per year, 2 weeks of paid nursing leave and up to 72 sick weeks for a single illness.
Have you considered giving all that profit to one bald man, though? Think of what you’re missing out on! 🚀
Same in France. We don’t have oil but we have strikes.
4 weeks by law in the Netherlands, usually the union adds another week to that.
Nationalised natural gas probably helps too
j/k am Dutch
What’s stopping the US from nationalizing its oil and other natural resources?
The needs of the 0.1% outweigh the needs of the peasants.
Bribery.
Yes, it’s a real article, and it’s worse than you are imagining.
Yeah this is just telling me we young people need to organize and demand more pto
Europe has this. You should too.
Typical AI sludge, complete alien nonsense spouted confidently.
Yep that was my first thought too. Gotta be AI written because it makes zero sense.
How did we get to the point where this is published as something serious?
Can I go live naked in the forest and forage for mushrooms instead? I want to macro-retire.
Well you have fun.
Meanwhile I’m gonna MEGA RETIRE.
Which basically just involves croaking and not working for the rest of time
What if I train AI on your life’s data and force the AI you to work 9-5 until the Big Crunch?
The part that gets me is that syntactically and lexically it makes perfect sense, so you actually have to think about it before realizing it’s totally worthless. The old signals of quality and care in communication are meaningless.
People with poor critical thinking skills are going to be fucking lost at sea this coming decade. They have no tools to tell what’s worth believing anymore.
You mean truthiness?
Wow, that article is really trying to make vacations “special” and trying to indicate most people want this “new” thing as a benefit, unpaid.
Charles currently takes work breaks every six months for two weeks at a time, and said he heard about micro-retirements from a friend. “I reward myself by traveling to different countries. Whether it’s Europe during the summer or other destinations, and so that’s a way that I incentivize myself to reach certain KPIs,” says Charles.
FML Charles has discovered holidays
When I’ve heard about “micro retirements” before, it’s been in the context of taking months long sabbaticals, not a regular amount of paid time off to take in a single block
Thats “the Onion”, right?
I mean, this cannot be written by a human who means this seriously. right??
Shit like this is published only to set the bar even lower than it is today. It has no other purpose as they know most intelligent people will not read anything but the headline. They just inject this dogshit into the collective consciousness so that they can normalize a type of work that is a little better than indentured servitude.
I wonder what this kind of people think about >20days of vacation in Europe.
Three weeks is what you need to really deconnect from a demanding work IMO.
It depends on how much you practice disconnecting. I found that working 4 day weeks allows me disconnect almost immediately every weekend.
Disconnection is not really a vacation issue per-se, it’s a work-life balance issue that can’t be solved if you spend the overwhelming amount of you waking time working.
4 day work week is fantastic you have time for the dentist, library books and everything else so easily 😍 and you’re right, for me at least, the holidays started like on day one!
four-day work weeks are great. guaranteed one day off M-F to get to appointments and other stuff that has to be done ‘during the day, during the week’… but the biggest bonus, perhaps, is one less day commuting each week; that’s 20% less time and expense traveling to-and-from work.
Ugh, every time I’ve tried that, its gone from 4 ten hour days to 5 tens. Once it went from 4 tens to 3 tens and 2 twelves.
Skipping lunch is now “intermittent fasting”.
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I mean, technically it is
This has got to be fake, or engagement bait, right?
Honestly, as someone who doesn’t like in America I feel like this wouldn’t surprise me if it was real from there.
Where I live you have minimum 4 weeks annual leave a year…
Everytime I read something that makes me frustrated or that sounds ridiculous I assume it’s rage bait because it almost aways is.
