Still investigating cause of death, but it appears to be some sort of puncture wound in the neck region
Of course he was targeted. The shooter is likely dead by now. They probably called it Operation Watch Charlie or something.
He was killed as a distraction.
Possible… but he had a lot of enemies, and there’s more and more people with literally nothing left to lose in the USA every single day, so it was probably inevitable on a long enough timescale.
He was killed as a distraction.
Susie Wiles: “Sir, they leaked the live copy of your letter to Jeffery Epstein. It’s having absolutely no effect on your public approval and Congress seems incapable of doing anything to stall your accrual of executive level powers. What should we do?”
Trump: “I’m a great president, Susie. Some say I’m the greatest president who ever lived. That’s why I make the big decisions. And I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. We’ve got to save the nation. We need to get stronger. Some people are saying we’re not strong, but they’re wrong, Susie. This is the best this country has ever been and it’s only going to get better. Are you ready to make this country better, Susie? I don’t think you’re ready… you’re nodding. Does that mean you’re ready?”
Susie Wiles: “Yes, Mr. President. Anything for you, Mr. President.”
Trump: “Go talk to Pete Hegseth. He’ll tell you what to do.”
Pete Hegseth, drunkenly: “Susthy, ith so good to thee you again. But I lothe to wath you leaf.”
Susie Wiles: “The President said you would know what to do.”
Pete: “Yeah, uh… kill the big head guy. You know the one. With the tiny face.”
Susie: “Charlie Kirk”
Pete: loud burping noise
Susie: “Right away, Mr. War Fighter Commander Pete.”
sounds of gunfire
Susie Wiles: “Mr. President! In a strange turn of fate, it appears someone else shot Charlie Kirk before we could get to him.”
Trump: “All according to plan, Susie. I’m the smartest man who ever lived. You can thank me with a kiss. Get over here, sweetie.”
Susie: you can grab me by the pussy. I’ll just let you do it.
What was the timing of the US Senate vote to not release the Epstein Files?
I swear you people would watch World War III kick off, vomiting your own digestive system out from acute radiation sickness, and still be saying “This is just a distraction from Epstein!”
More than one thing can happen on planet Earth. It doesn’t all have to tie back to Trump and Epstein.
Hey man, we’re giving him the care and consideration he gave to sandy hook
That’s what someone who wants to distract from Epstein would say!
Things can still happen simultaneously. If a “distraction” is ruining lives then you shouldn’t be ignoring it. If Trump enacts martial law to seize the country don’t ignore it for the sake of it being a “distraction”.
As a wise man (i.e. me) once memed:
yeah but where are they?
They’re in the hands of people that despise us and would never release them voluntarily, let alone prosecute with any intent on conviction and sentencing.
But maybe if people keep posting funny title cards on social media they’ll change their mind, I dunno.
Next up: FBI confirms a firearm was used in the shooting.
Ongoing: FBI suspect that political landscape might be toxic
BREAKING: FBI Increasingly Suspects Murder As Cause of Death in Kirk Shooting
TIL that I could be in the FBI. Great detective work guys.
When you realize how low the bar is, you should never have imposter syndrome again. At this point the remaining federal government is only composed of Trump loyalists.
The claims of meritocracy replacing DEI are beyond ridiculous. How many campus shooters have ever just walked away like this? This was a high profile assassination. The fact that they still have not found the guy that did this, should let you know they either let this happen or they’re now just completely incompetent. I’m leaning towards the former, but the latter is definitely a possibility.
Anybody can just be handed power and control under this administration, no matter how unqualified. That is how the right has been operating for the last 25+ years. Literally that is why people keep joining this grift. If you’re willing to pledge loyalty, take advantage of people, and help destroy your own country, you can make bank.
The people that fund the right refuse to let a penny of their money go towards taxes to pay for public services, but they will literally throw absurd amounts of money at anything that promotes their agenda. They would pay somebody to publicly set their own money on fire, if it meant that person could convince a handful of people to keep voting Republican.
The really sad thing is, there is some truth to the left (or at least the Democratic party) becoming so comfortable being cemented in established norms and institutions, that they have managed to become exclusionary and made a big chunk of the U.S. feel alienated.
Like a lot of the institutions on the left have become what the Republican party was when the new right was first forming. Everybody “new” actually has connections to somebody already established in the party. They’re usually somebody’s kid, relative, or family friend, or they attended the same Ivy League and were recruited by somebody in the establishment.
I read a really interesting article years ago that spoke about that happening on Communist China back in Mao’s time. Essentially all the folks who were competent retired/replaced by folks with connections to the party not the role. Thus corruption infiltrated.
I can’t find the article and I don’t remember the professor’s name who wrote it but I remember thinking it was odd that a Chinese professor was writing about the government and letting it be published. I think he may have gotten in trouble after the fact or something else.
Crazy times to live when you see the FBI go from Darth Vader to Dark Helmet.
Holding press conferences with the visor down … sounding loud, hollow and important … every once in a while opening the visor to show an idiot trying to clarify what they said.
Right? Won’t be able to have a serious movie about the FBI for the next 30 years
Their (they 're…i am incompetent)counting on AI to do the Darth Vader shit for Darth Helmet… we’re fucked
Do you mean to say it wasn’t a random bullet?
I never would have reached that conclusion on my own, thank you FBI, you are truly the world’s greatest detectives. Thinking outside the box!
His neck actually just did that by itself
Actually, he’s such a gun afficiando that he regularly eats bullets for breakfast, but this time accidentally ate a live round which was later set off by stomach acid and propelled in an upward direction at a slight angle.
Damn you are a science wizard!
I feel like there are parts of the country where it does need to be clarified. Utah may be one of them. 😉
Be fair. They recently fired all their good agents. The sycophants that are left are trying their very best.
Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn’t a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn’t look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that? I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away and the person that took the shot had the ability to make a sniper shot like that, (some form of police/military training.) Then, before he’s been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts “The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!” Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hadn’t officially been declared dead, why was Trump saying that Charlie Kirk was dead before it was official. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I’m calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump’s reischtag fire. Buckle up. Edit: NYT is saying the shot came from a roof via a high power bolt action rifle, because the gun was found in the woods near the campus. Authorities also claim to have video footage of the suspect going to the roof of a campus building.
The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That’s WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army makes you use iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that’s not even pushing it.
They didn’t have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit the general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.
There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.
If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.
If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass (heart) the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.
In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.
Also, I don’t know if people train for downward sloped shots. He may have over/under corrected.
Not usually in my experience. Almost all target shooting is on relatively flat ranges. Especially not for ranges that short.
For those that don’t know, when firing down the slope the effect of gravity decreases the bullets velocity loss. So the bullet transverses the distance in less time and drops less over a given distance.
When firing up a slope the bullet loses velocity due to gravity. So it drops more due to the extra time it takes for the bullet to transverse the distance.
Whoever did it, at least we know (s)he had to be part of a well regulated militia
That is the nice thing about the American Way. Just call up the neighboring states’ militias and ask who didn’t show up for drills and if any weapons are missing.
Shooter was probably aiming for head and the bullet lost a few inches of altitude in the air
Shooter was also aiming down, which is not a thing one can typically practice.
You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.
Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with “tin foil hat time.” Even if that’s the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.
false flag operation
Claims like this give both too much credit for action and too little to strategy.
- there’s no reason to believe this specific action was a false flag operation when in the current environment it’s simple to believe a radicalized individual
- isn’t that one of the benefits of the continuous hatred, outrage, divisiveness, chaos? There’s always going to be stuff like this happening, so you always have an event to capitalize on without the risk of doing it yourself
I dunno, this happening right around the same time the Senate voted YET AGAIN against the release of the Epstein files may be a thing
Ockham’s Razor
Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,
There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
I don’t think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It’s way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.There is video of a person dressed in black skedaddling back over the rooftop, clearly the shooter. No sane shooter is aiming for the neck, hell no. Pretty sure it was a chest shot that tumbled around his ribcage and exited his neck. Weird shit happens when a teeny projectile hits meat and bone at 3,400FPS.
On the day before 9/11 of all days.
+1
I don’t think he was shot, I think his neck just did that
A truck backfired at the same time.
"Grunthos was reported to have been “disappointed” by the poem’s reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his 12-book epic entitled “My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles” when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain. " --Douglas Adams HHGTTG
The bullshit could no longer be contained.
No this wasn’t a school shooting! This was targeted. The horror!
After a day of rigorous forensics, we have concluded that Charlie Kirk’s neck didn’t just do that on its own.
and also not the 2 dem politicians that were assasinated and targeted too.
Now Trump is going to send the army to guard the streets of buttfuck nowhere Utah from all this violence, right? Right?
Oh don’t worry, they’ll institute police checkpoints everywhere across the country for “safety” and “national security”. Worked great for Ireland!
Come to think of it I really need my brakes checked and my pool cleaned.
don’t forget all the sugar and soap you’re delivering to the local food pantry.
Everyone knows the shooter was from Chicago, so this still counts as Chicago crime
/s
The blood shooting from Mr. Kirks neck alone was not good enough evidence to determine if the shooter hit what he was targeting. Great work FBI. At this rate, you’ll soon be able to confirm the shooter used a gun.
His neck just did that.
TBF the laws in the USA are wack enough that the weapon might not fall under the definition of deadly weapon and therefore firearms related crime.
Better still:
Mr Kirk was on his “Prove me Wrong” tour.
And the assassin chose to prove Mr Kirk wrong in a way words couldn’t.
However - If spending money can legally be protected as “free speech” in the US, then what other actions could be considered “free speech” and therefore is protected under the first amendment?
If Mr Kirk was openly asking to be proven wrong, then couldn’t the assassins bullet be protected under free speech as a clear (but violent) answer to that question?
As a friend I’m saying it’s time to drop out of law school.
The MAGA appointed judge that’s doing absolutely everything chat gpt suggests might be buying that argument, you never can tell.
Not in law school 😂
But as an American, how is money coming from a political donation legally protected free speech?
Since I’m not a lawyer, and I assume you are, please walk me through how that concept, legally, makes more sense than a bullet coming from a gun being considered free speech in a “Prove me Wrong” tour about gun violence.
Honestly, no antogonization intended, I would earnestly love to hear an actual lawyers take on the differences between these two concepts.
Because from my perspective: both are genuinely poorly reasoned when it comes to the first amendment and free speech, yet one is actually legal.
Would love to know why that is.
Honestly, it would be some pretty funny shit if he got hit by a random bullet someone shot into the air from like a mile or so.
FAR too many “coincidences” for this to not have been an inside job.
The weird pre-prepared AI video of Trump announcing his death
The plane randomly arriving and likely picking the shooter up
The shooter being clearly an expert marksman
The right all coordinating to declare a civil war within seconds of it happening
The FBI conveniently not being able to find the guy
Not 1 but 2 plants in the crowd to distract authorities
Etc etc etc.
Release the Epstein files you orange pedophile piece of shit.
What’s the story with plane and the plants in the crowd?
A private jet at a close by airport took off at about enough time for the shooter to hop on board and escape. It unexplainably disappeared off radar as it crossed into Arizona, then it came back an hour later.
As for the plant, the old guy they first arrested was claiming he shot Kirk.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2025/09/10/george-zinn-what-we-know-about-man/
This is the same government that couldn’t keep a sexual act between two consenting adults secret. You’re being paranoid.
They also kept the Manhattan Project secret so there is that.
That was back when the US government was competent.
This isn’t the same government.
That government didn’t have nearly the same complicit media, nor federal agencies that this one does.
Shit, it didn’t even have the same ones as immediately after 9/11.
You severely underestimate just how bad things have gotten. Take a god damn look at the absolute blazing fire this administration has set to our constitution and law. This is unprecedented times.
Its not that we’re paranoid, its that you stick your head in the sand.
What’s up with the AI thing? Are we veering off into QAnon territory or is something looking particularly fishy?
There’s nothing conspiratorial about it.
Trump’s video announcing the death of Charlie Kirk is clearly AI.
His hands change size and barely move
His entire body and head is far too stiff and moves unnaturally
The video itself seems off, as if its missing detail loke any AI vids do
His voice is unusually monotoned, even for his “serious” voice
Almost none of his typical Trumpisms like fucking up his words, slurring his words nor going off on a tangent were there
And, of course, just today at the 9/11 memorial event his right side of his face is drooping.
Here’s a video of Trump today https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1neg8de/trumps_face_appeared_noticeably_drooped_on_one/
Here’s a video of him yesterday. ~~ https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1965940221612273913/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1965940221612273913¤tTweetUser=disclosetv ~~
In the second video, there’s even a weird glitch at about 18 seconds, where he says “Charlie was a patriot” and if you look over his head there’s like a shift or something that is noticeable.
I noticed this yesterday, I think its at least edited, but seeing him today…he does not look quite as feisty as usual. Its not worth spending time on, proving that a video was faked is not exactly the most pressing issue of our time. But I think there’s merit to the claim
EDIT : The video I think is AI generated was taken down from twitter and the WH YouTube. Here’s a secondary source, the “glitch” is around 1:05. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5hsx6Tii0E A video with the glitchy frames cut from the video was published by the Guardian.
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Wild. The video itself is getting memory holed. I found a version published by the guardian that has the section of video with a glitch cut out.
I found this one that still has the glitchy frames. Its around 1:05, “Charlie was a patriot…”
The original video so had a glitch at 19 seconds.
Yeah that’s about what I found too
Somethings real weird about that video, the reflections on the desk seem really off.
On the left it looks like a normal reflection until it meets the red/white stripes and zigzags them, on the right things get even weirder the reflection of the phone cable looks completely mirrored upside down, the flags and curtains dont add up.
Weirdest of all directly under trumps left elbow looks to be the small gold framed picture on the very right mirrored horizontally
My guess is this is green screened and AI edited, pretty creepy
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Nah, stray bullet bro.
