• Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOP
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      I was waiting for someone to post this. Why anyone thought this was a good idea is beyond me.

      You now have two things with this method:

      1. Trace amounts of dishwasher chemicals in your fish

      2. A dishwasher that smells like fish. A fishwasher if you will

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    further evidence in support of my policy of not taking cooking advice from people who advocate for putting food on paper towels

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        my understanding is that most kinds of paper towels are not food safe, and can contain bleaching agents, formaldehyde, and other such things. i’ve yet to find a great drop in replacement for them though. so i’ve just been avoiding/altering recipes that ask for them.

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          altering recipes that ask for them.

          What’s your preferred alternative? I’m looking for something that gives me the same great taste and texture but is also 100% organic.

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            i still haven’t found a great alternative to be honest, but at the moment i just try to see if i can somehow use a strainer/colander to accomplish the same task. but its a bit of a half-measure and doesn’t work in all contexts

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          Wait what?

          This is like when I learned you’re not supposed to microwave food in Tupperware because of micro plastics.

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          Fuck, for a supposedly rich country, the US is full of as many weird traps as a some war rawaged place. You guys have to be on a lookout all the time, eh?

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            yeah it is extremely frustrating how many traps there are. i think it’s because the US has a culture of thinking things are “safe until proven unsafe” instead of “unsafe until proven safe”.

            learning about the paper towels, microwave popcorn, and silicone cookware made me go nuclear on my kitchen. at this point i only let food touch glass, stainless steel, wood, or ceramic. it’s annoyingly difficult to find non-plastic versions of certain things (e.g. blenders) but after doing it once i don’t have to worry about it again for 5-10 years so it’s not too bad in that context. and i haven’t had to deal with any of the traps since then.

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            Yeah well, that’s why we can’t get healthcare. Then they could detect our diseases and toxins and we could class action sue. The class action lawsuits alone make corporations shake in their boots enough that they say we “can’t afford healthcare for all.” We can, but the rich corporations cant

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      Wrapping corn in a damp paper towel and throwing it in the microwave for five minutes is so much easier than boiling it in a big pot for 20 minutes.

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        It’s even easier to buy the corn with the husk still on it and just throw the whole thing in the microwave. Three minutes or so in the microwave then you pull it out, rip off the husk/silk and it’s ready to eat.

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            I mean that is an option but swapping in popcorn would make for a rather different dinner than one with corn on the cob.

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        i think it’s even easier to use a microwave and a colander. the colander will also last a whole lot longer than a roll of paper towels.

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    Yet another out of touch rich guy that thinks we can afford salmon

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      Salmon near me is $8 per pound on a good sale (9-10 is more frequent), so a 6 ounce portion is $3ish. A lemon for 80 cents, a bag of frozen mixed vegetables, 2 portions of salmon, and an ounce of butter, and dinner is $10.

      I would add rice, and then probably get a pound and a quarter of salmon to have some to make leftovers into onigiri, then it’s lunch the next day too, but the cost goes up.

      It’s possible $10 is out of reach, or you live in a much more expensive area. Apologies if either of those applies to you, but this seems to be an approachable option.

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        I usually spend like £25 a week between the 2 of us. I was thinking of trying to catch seafood myself and while I have managed to get a crab before my partner isn’t keen on the idea of eating something I caught.

        I thought he went nicely on toast when mixed with some mayo.

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      American Catholics in 1960: “We eat fish every Friday during Lent to represent the poverty of our forefathers long ago. The ancient peoples who could subsist on nothing else pulled great bounties from the Mediterranean. It sustained civilization in that humble way for centuries and today we remember our simple origins.”

      American Catholics in 2020: “Fish for dinner? What are we, made out of money? Have a hamburger instead. No, I will not think for one single second about the sociological or ecological ramifications of this decision.”

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      I’ve been: Lucky enough to get salmon from the FoodBank every other month or so. This just sounds like lazy writer cooking to me. Which I aspire to be.

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      If people can’t afford salmon, they should probably get acquainted with the relatively inexpensive cost of glass bottles and gasoline.

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        That’s certainly a take. Farmed salmon cause a lot of problems for the waters around them. I don’t think I can eat farmed fish again after researching the problems around them.

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      At this point its not much more expensive than beef etc. Fish is a more competitive market than the beef processor monopolies, at least in the US

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    The lazy way to cook salmon I know is to wrap it in foil and bake it in the oven for a bit. Wrapping it means that there is no surface browning and I imagine it cooks very similarly to microwaving. It’s not like meat or bread where you want to sear the outside, or sauce or soup where a longer cooking time imparts a deeper flavour - raw salmon is tasty after all.

    I haven’t tried it, but I also suspect everyone horrified by this also hasn’t tried it, and it seems like it would work just fine. Microwaving fish is such a meme at this point that I think there’s a short circuit in people’s brains where they think it magically ruins food and creates a smell that would not be created by heating it equivalently using some other method.

    So does anyone know for a fact whether this is terrible?

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      The salmon will be fine, pretty much the same as steam-cooking it. Just put some spices and a lot of lemon so it would not be bland.

      The microwave, on the other hand, will gain a subtle and mysterious fish aroma, that will only become stronger with the passage of time.

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        The microwave, on the other hand, will gain a subtle and mysterious fish aroma, that will only become stronger with the passage of time.

        Sounds suspicious 🤔

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    What the hell is with the culinary advice in this thread, do you people not own stoves?

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        Add cream cheese, dill, and capers, put all on either a toasted bagel half or slice of sourdough. 11/10

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        Cold smoked salmon is a completely different thing. Both are good (usually) but the warm smoked is much closer to this microwave thing he is describing (which is still better than dishwasher salmon!).

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        I’m gonna have to get scientific here. What are the temperature ranges for each and how long should I smoke a roughly 1 KG fillet using either method?

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          For cold smoking the temperature is around room temperature (25 celsius is ideal), and it takes around 6-8 hours.

          There are various hot smoking methods. The first (and best in my opinion) is around 70-80 degrees celsius, and takes about 4-6 hours. Secondly alternatively around 100 degrees celsius for 1-3 hours. Thirdly around 120-130 degrees celsius and 30 minutes. The goal is for the salmon to reach 62 degrees celsius internal temperature. But I find the lower heat is best for salmon, because higher heat creates more albumin when cooking salmon.

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      Or just air fry it for 5 minutes instead of microwaving for 3. I’ve done this to great success.

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    been a salmon fan ever since I moved to the pacific northwest. we get amazing salmon here.

    aloha spice company seafood rub on fresh or thawed frozen, in a metal pan on the stovetop. it’ll take 8 minutes from cold to done, so start some rice (long grain works especially well with this palette) and brussel sprouts broccoli green beans or asparagus a bit ahead. finish with a tiny bit of soy sauce to taste.

    if you’re feeling fancy, a ginger and garlic green beans works especially well with the savory umami of the salmon.

    I adore, nearly worship King. But goddamn bro… just… naw…

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    Yeah I used to do this with low budget frozen fishies when I was in college pulling long hours.

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    What kind of sicko (positive) pays for such expensive food then microwaves it like its a hot pocket? Wtf. I grew up far too poor to even try this.

    Also for the UK tories out there Stephen King is an english major and makes more money than any programmer or trade worker.

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      Want to mention, from his In Writing book, he was writing Carrie in his laundry cupboard (didn’t sound like enough to be called a room more like a closet with appliances). Also even if that’s is his preference, sounds like he was suggesting a simple dinner. Make some fish for a quiet date, good suggestion if you’re not familiar with the oven. I don’t believe fish was always so expensive either, prices skyrocketed at one point, my mom used to buy chicken wings when money was low (80s), now they’re expensive as shit comparatively.