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Linux
Reddit bad
Am I doing it right?
Overthrow the bougoisie
Cook the bolognese…
Bean
Jean
Beef stroganoff
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Happydam Husain
Ponder the orb
It’s only us vs the billionaires! Don’t let them try to pit us against each other!
Anyone who owns more than two houses deserves to die!
Anyone who works X job is a bastard, no matter how much good they do.
No, I will not run for local elections.
No, I will not give up Xitter I need it to follow my niche artists despite them having accounts on multiple other platforms including BlueSky.
No I will not give up Facebook. I need it to poke meemaw and check the marketplace for things I’ll never buy or sell because Craigslist amirite?
At least all you twats use ETA less than they do on reddit. That bugs me way more than it should.
You know you’re also using the internet, right?
Yeah ya see, he’s stuck. how will he spread the light of his superiorioriority unless he comes to speak to the filth?
It was probably a sacrifice but Im so glad he took the time to show us what is possible.
What an inspiration
There’s also the part that is into crushing with a tank people who don’t hate the USA more than anything in the universe.
Honestly I feel like most people on here are just tired of the ultra-capitalistic hell neoliberalism threw us into and want a better system that doesn’t rape dry the Earth and doesn’t allow companies to have the same wealth as entire states. Those people you mention are just a very loud, screaming minority.
I’m part of these people, I think most of them are social democrat and don’t have any illusion about supposedly socialist countries.
Yes, they are a minority since .world became the biggest player, but they are still very visible if you mention those subjects and countries, they are going to pop up.
All those wanna be commies live in the USA too it’s fucking sad
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Where would you rather live?
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Ah… so let me get this straight. So instead of being poor in a capitalist country, you’d rather be poor in a communist country?
Edit: JFC dude. Why are there so many of these types on Lemmy
Really? Are you really genuinely ignorant or you simply can’t fathom that non-US people not only exist but also lead happier lives?
No, he’s not. He’s talking about supposedly-socialist people in the USA who idealize vaguely socialism related countries like Russia or China, and think they would have a better life in these countries.
Please don’t forget that the vast majority of non-US people lead significantly sadder lives.
The two most populous countries in the world are China and India, in that order, and I haven’t heard many good things about the standard of living in either of them.
That’s great but doesn’t answer the question
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Not the ones on Lemmy lol
I have trouble spelling that word, too.
dont forget star trek
And beans, for some reason.
And the germans
Live long, and may the force be wingardium leviosa!
- Capt. Jean-Luc Severus Skywalker
Linux, reddit bad, socialism and star trek are alright. The bean thing I don’t get. Never am I gonna spend energy learning about it either.
The bean thing I don’t get
I recall that being a thing on Reddit too for a bit… Just the internet doing its thing. People like random shit - it all gud.
Bagging Reddit is actually kinda discouraged, more Linux and communism. Or at least screeching about capitalism at every opportunity.
Yeah, for a website forged almost exclusively from former Redditors and especially ones who got burned by Reddit’s abysmal leadership, I rarely see complaints about Reddit on here – arguably far fewer than on Reddit itself.
The socialists are the native inhabitants of this land, the Redditors are the ruthless imperialist colonisers.
I’m half-Redditor, half-socialist. I hope I’m still welcome among those with a pure socialist heritage.
Or maybe the Redditors are refugees and the lemmy nativists have convinced themselves they are eating their pets.
This is a federated cross-platform social network (hi from Mastodon, by the way), not one platform operated by one person with one ideology. No one is native or a colonizer here; those concepts aren’t even meaningful here.
He says that because the creators are tankies and so were the first communities built around them like .ml administrated by the creators. Last year’s Redditors migration after the API change moved the political center more towards social democracy and the people center towards .world.
Indeed, but the old tankie instances still exist, same as always. The centrists went elsewhere, to non-tankie instances that were set up for them.
Colonization involves taking somebody else’s land, but this is more like creating more land out of thin air and settling there.
I think those people consider the Lemmy federation to be their playground, and they are being xenophobic about others, but since there is not supposed to be xenophobia in their ideology, they call it colonialism instead.
That’s been a welcome change in the last ~6 months. It was a fire hose blast of people going back and forth on whether a ‘thing’ was brought over from reddit, and whether or not it was welcome.
Do I want to open a can of worms by asking what the ‘thing’ is?
Oh, just insert whatever you remember from reddit. Replies that are obviously jokes but off topic, mimicking a meme or such; doing the ‘follow the link’ meme (though I only remember that one popping up once or twice); sounding out a sentence one word per reply… I saw all of those get panned or promoted. Some people screamed about leaving such habits at reddit, others thought they were the height of humor.
There’s a lot of those jokes that will hopefully die on the platform. They had well and truly run their course even on Reddit.
Also make sure you double check if you browse by all and decide to leave a comment
Lol since you mentioned you got banned i had a look… your comments were fuckin awful! Why world you advertise this? I’m absolutely embarrassed for ya… that you still feel this hurt when you got banned trollin.
I went to some other comms to check their logs and it looks like you get banned everywhere you post, fella.
Haha! nothing effin funnier than reading the hurt feelings of someone who got what they deserved.
Thanks for that, really <3
Why not show my comments then lol
Oh I see you’re a regular poster in USAauthoritarianism. 😂
Glad you enjoy sniffing my taint. Come back anytime.
I definitely will 🤣
Clutches pearls
Omg did you pull those out of… Dude wash those off first…
Ah, I see it now.
You see what?
Thank you, I’ve been having a lot of depression and feeling pretty worthless, but comments like these remind me that no matter how bad things get at least I’ll never be this much of a loser.
Feel better brother
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Thanks Marx (nice name lol)
Your anecdotes are irrelevant. You could have just posted the context, but you didn’t. Wonder why?
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what did you do??
this dude started saying something about “time to take your medicine” to an OP then started smoking crack right there in the thread.
I got banned for genocide denial when I called Ukrainian a genocide. ML tankies are a special breed of stupid.
Thank you! Your og ban wasn’t as funny as i’d like but the second “ban evasion” banhammer made my lips curl up some. Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
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Let me guess, you commented on a community nodded by the Lemmy.ml admin?
lol this is great. Sorry, non wannabe commies get brigaded around these parts
Yeah is is kind of wild. They act as if I killed the cat
It’s just a huge problem on Lemmy. Right now there isn’t enough content really to justify defederating so it’s like they are the weird family members than you can’t stand but have to somewhat tolerate
The problem is that they are on lots of instances now
bears eat beets. Bears, beets, “Battlestar Galactica.”
Beans!
I use Arch, btw
You forgot the 100 comment posts on anything mozilla does
I mean in one way. Yes, you’re fitting in and in another way - Stop talking about Reddit
Say Windows bad as well. We’re not allowed to use Windows for some reason… I use it, and I’m not sorry, but I really don’t care about internet doots.
Dear windows users
Not enough blaming capitalism for problems which have nothing to do with capitalism.
Plus space capitalism with the Ferengi.
Wait, where did this image come from? I’ll love this. Is this shen OC or is this an edit?
Started with this guy, then did my thing.
Dude you rock! Love what you did above
Holy fucking shit - amazing
And linux!
I mean, Linux (and the entire ecosystem) is a fundamentally socialist concept.
I would say GNU is one that’s openly socialist. If Linux’s (or rather, Linus Torvald’s) philosophy is socialist, they either do a very good job of hiding the fact or there is a lot I don’t know about them.
I’d never seen that, thanks for sharing it!
That doesn’t make him a socialist. He doesn’t espouse any of the core socialist beliefs there. He’s just saying he’s a “woke communist” (as described by the right), which could mean anything from a centre-left liberal to a Marxist.
Socialism is when Linus does stuff. And it’s more socialism the more stuff he does. And if he does a real lot of stuff, that’s communism.
Who’s out there issuing atheist cards? And how do I get one?
The Satanic Temple makes a nice one. More of a certificate really though.
Wasn’t Torvalds’ dad member of communist party?
Yes, and was a member of the EU parliament until recently. Both his parents were pretty radical. Linus tends to keep his politics private for the most part.
Maybe so, but children don’t always adopt the ideology of their parents. They usually do, but not always.
Unpopular opinion: “Open Source”, spawned from Netscape spinning off Mozilla, laid out in definition by the OSI organization, and advocated for by AnCaps like Eric S. Raymond, was always fundamentally capitalist. Devs spending a lot of free time doing free work for companies was not an accident. Capitalists borrowing ideas from the left and twisting them for their own uses is not new, either.
Free Software is more rooted in communism. You’re doing this to help your community. RMS might have always denied it–probably because it wasn’t a good idea to advocate that way during the Cold War and after–but it’s a better philosophical fit.
It’s past time to divorce the two.
There are discussions about open vs. free going back over 20 years, that I know of. The divorce happened long ago, but they’re still neighbors.
Those discussions largely resulted in “FOSS”, and a basic peace treaty. The two tended to use the same techniques and licenses in practice, and nobody really wanted to have that fight.
I didn’t realize things had progressed to this point. I thought there were still some mainstream distros that would qualify as Free, but the only ones GNU endorses are ones I’ve never heard of. There do still seem to be some non-GNU projects with a freedom-first philosophy.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
I know it’s a copypasta, but I correctly differentiated GNU and Linux in my comment.
angry spitting libertarian noises
And my axe!
And my sword!
…and Linux.
I realize we’re inherently not capitalistic platform because everyone has the access to own their portion. Pretty cool imo and not to toot the horn for the millionth time, it definitely seems like the future of the internet
Blud thinks this is Mastodon or smth
That’s the neat part. From my perspective, this *is* Mastodon.
I mean, I dunno. It’s been the “future of the internet” since the 90’s, but nobody can solve the fundamental problems with such systems existing in the actual real material world, so we just get hit with an ever dwindling supply of larger and larger social media monopolies. Same as it ever was.
My partner has been insinuating that I’m a communist recently. I don’t think I’m a communist, I simply want to seize the means of production for the people.
Doesn’t that make you a communist?
You sound just like my partner.
Don’t forget to seize the means of computation to stop enshittification.
It’s part of the plan. To get people to accept a perspective before learning from where one has to stand to have such a perspective.
Something that can’t be denied is that there are bad actors in America who actively want the downfall of America. These groups look to the future and determine what will harm America in critical aspects. These groups (sometimes actively funded by other nations) arent actively seeking uprising or revolt this year, or next year, but maybe by the end of the decade, or maybe the next decade.
These malevolent forces at work arent readily apparent. One of these goals is division. “Divide and conquer.” I don’t believe it’s completely by accident that politics are so divisive right now.
I’m not that old, but I remember a time when people wouldn’t generalize and stereotype each other based on political leanings.
We again need to prioritize love for each other over political standings.
“I’m not that old, but I remember a time when people wouldn’t generalize and stereotype each other based on political leanings.”
I remember a time when people had to band together to fight back dinosaurs in order to stop them from terrorizing villages.
Want to write a history book with me?
We could call it “Bullshit That Clearly Never Happened”
I mean… It’s one of the reasons I like it so much here.
You don’t need to sell it to me, I already love it.
good. kind of like an anti twitter.
The socialists must flee what was formerly known as Twitter, now under the control of a totalitarian fascist regime ruled by a mad dictator, or face extermination, and are now refugees wherever they ended up on the Internet
it’s also currently known as twitter. even the madman calls it twitter and says tweet and shit. he’s so fucking dumb.
It’s currently known as shitter. Spelled xitter.
You are gonna love Mastodon
NZ? I hope I could go someday.
Didn’t he go to jail for sex crimes?
Oh God
Ahem, this is a community
What did you expect?
I just hate how it is vilified when we literally freely give billions in taxpayer monies to oil companies.
What’s wrong with socialism? I like socialism.
I want to seize the means of production as much as the next guy but it gets kinda boring after a while if that’s the only content available
Sometimes there are cats! That’s always fun! Some of those cats want socialism too, but they’re still cats!
It doesnt get boring hearing about how judges demolish bodily autonomy of women and commit other atrocities in the name of corporate freedom.
Ah you mean in the US? I see, well there’s also the rest of the world
Are you positive? I feel like I need a source on that
If this was memes@lemmy.ml you would’ve been banned for this comment
When you assume anyone complaining about .ml and Hexbear must be a liberal
There’s a massive overlap between being anti-Marx and being liberal. Doesn’t mean all anti-Marxists are liberals, but most are.
I consider myself conservative.
I’ll let myself out before this comment thread explodes
Conservatives fall under the umbrella of liberalism, generally.
It’s statistically likely, as is their inability to find the block button.
No it’s more likely that they are an actual leftist. China and Ruzzia are (and the SU was!) fascist hellholes that have nothing to do with socialism and/or communism besides screaming it of the windows all the time.
And people who delude themselves to believe something else are really annoying…
I agree in spirit! However the soviet union was neither capitalist nor communist, and fascism is a form of capitalism which means the soviet union wasn’t fascist, but rather something else entirely.
Tankies are authoritarians and therefore cannot call themselves socialist
For clarity, comtemporaries of Marx and Engels also called them authoritarian, hence On Authority.
I’m just sick of the fucking tankies telling me World War 3 will finally give us workers rights.
They claim both sides are equally as bad while ignoring the fact that their side has never even been tested. Therefore they have no fucking clue that they wouldn’t be worse.
Shill Stein has already been outed, West is an incompetent blowhard and only shows up ever four years to suggest impractical and irrelevant nonsense,
And JFK….
The Green Party is essential a giant spoiler campaign.
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If both sides are the Democratic Party and the tankies, then yes, both are bad, and both are far less bad than the Republicans so vote Democrat please. Drag doesn’t like it when Trump kills all the trans people and women.
When you grow that third arm the production will increase by half by default…
Chernobyl was a long con to create production in order to cease the means of it.
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Tankies are fake communists who worship dictators.
I don’t think there are real communists honestly. I don’t think communism is ever really a “viable” solution unless you suppress freedoms. Also someone will always rise to the top. Communism is just one big corporation that you can not leave.
At the risk of starting another argument, I have heard it described thusly—
Suppose you have some number of apples and some number of people who want the apples.
- Capitalism is where one person owns all the apples and everyone has to work for them to get an apple.
- Socialism is where the apples are distributed evenly to all the people who want them.
- Communism is where unlimited apples fall out of the sky and everyone can have as many as they need.
Now, this quote was originally used by capitalists to mock communism, but I think it’s really not a bad analogy. Think about it: Star Trek, another beloved Lemmy staple, takes place in a communist society. Everyone works whatever job they want contributing to society and in return, everyone gets whatever they need provided for by the state. It’s not truly post scarcity, since human greed always outstrips any finite amount of resources. But there is no distinction of rich or poor in Star Trek. People are judged by their intelligence, skill, and merit, and rewarded proportionally. At the same time, there is no concept of money, mostly (except when the plot needs it). What good is money when all your necessities are taken care of? All but your wildest desires can be conjured up at a snap of your fingers, and all the state asks in return is that you do what you can to contribute. It is a mutually beneficial relationship that most people have learned to be content with. That, my friends, is an ideal depiction of communism.
- Capitalism is where one person owns all the copies of Tommy Wiseau’s The Room
- Socialism is where the copies of Tommy Wiseau’s The Room are distributed evenly to all the people who want them
- Communism is where a transgender furry breaks the DRM on the DVD and publishes a torrent of Tommy Wiseau’s The Room
I think the Star Trek ideal is not viable in the least as people will always be self centered. They will either seek either to make there own lives better or to make there families lives better. Also Star Trek changes its narrative depending on the movie or series.
I don’t think humans would be naturally self centered if they lived in an environment that actually encouraged sharing and cooperation instead of actively encouraging and rewarding psychopathy and selfishness.
There were likely people who thought it impossible that wolves would someday become domesticated, and eventually be our best buds, due to their ‘unchangeable’ nature.
We are all products of our environment.
Then you don’t know what communism is. I’ve never met a non-socalist who knows what socialism is, or can describe how or why socialism has failed in the past.
I think a public production and distribution of goods can be handled democratically which will eventually happen organically with a strong and adaptable democracy, furthermore I agree any other form of Communism such as the CCP is just malarkey.
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Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, the Phillippines, Crimea, and Ukraine (just to name some ongoing conflicts)
But sure, its all the west with their “mutual defence pacts” and their “incentivizing diplomacy through trade”, Those beligerent bastards.
Also, though, whataboutism in the face of their dogshit ideology.
Drag isn’t a tankie, and drag wants Ukrainian troops to march on Moscow because Putin is a fuckhead and drag wants to see the fall of the Russian empire
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British Citizen in 1910: India is a conflict that was resolved 100 years ago.
I don’t think you’ll find too many bOtH siDEs accelerationists among the liberals, but don’t let this get in the way of some good ol’ fashioned uninformed ignorance!
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Hilarious! Thanks for that.
equally
Drag disagrees.
I mean that’s why they are called tankies :P It’s a derogatory word originally used to describe “socialists” defending tanks being sent into ukraine by the soviet union, and then was quickly used to describe all “socialists” defending genocide, imperialism, and authoritarianism.
Nine times out of ten it’s incorrectly defined by idealists that haven’t figured out that a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services, and the rest of the rhetoric that defines socialism would absolutely fail if attempted in America.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
a fair amount of American sociological and economic standards are already steeped in socialist services
If you believe this to be true then you don’t understand what socialism actually is. You seem to be of the mind that any publicly funded service or welfare is socialist, and I don’t blame you for thinking this since it is what the mainstream American political discourse would have you believe.
In short, nine times out of ten, a socialist has absolutely no fucking idea what they’re talking about, but just parroting smug bullshit that they think makes them look edgy and educated.
When you say this immediately after demonstrating that you actually have no idea what you’re talking about it’s a pretty bad look. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Drag thinks the means of production should be owned by the workers. Drag is curious why you think the American workers own “a fair amount” of the means of production.
Or they are arguing against democracy
Though half of it is complaining about capitalism.
Half socialism, half complaining about capitalism, half linux, and half startrek memes.
Although, now that I think about it, the linux and startrek halves are often just a part of the socialism half.
So, I guess the original point stands. Socialism all the way down.
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That’s a lot of halves.
at the end of the day, it’s all complaining and no action. i get so tired of hearing children whine and doing nothing about anything.
And vegan drama that you really don’t want to get involved in.
Actually the first one is lemmy.world users confusing corporate centrists for socialism
