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I think they want to intimidate others, but honestly giving him this much of a spotlight should be the dream of anyone thinking about attacking another CEO for attention.
I don’t see how they don’t see it.
Maybe the cops are playing both sides? I’m definitely giving them too much credit there, but maybe?
While I’m sure there is no love lost towards healthcare execs from even the police, an uptick of “terrorism” could also be used as an excuse to give even more power to the police as well.
I was thinking they are playing it up in hopes of copycats. Basically malicious compliance
Our systems and hierarchies do often support the oligarchy, but that does not mean every single individual supports the oligarchy, or that every single thing our systems do are meant to advance the goals of the ultra rich. Sometimes individuals who participate in these systems do malicious compliance, sometimes they don’t comply at all.
In this case there could be someone high-up who is empathetic(or a group of empathetic people unaware of each other, their actions adding up) whose decisions led to this happening, or this could have just been a dumb decision, who knows.
I dont think they need an excuse, they just do whatever they want now. Thats what electing trump is all about, letting them run amuck unrestrained.
That’s definitely giving them too much credit.
They are probably trying to reduce the number of eligible jurors who would acquit him.
Insurers fuck cops over too. While I doubt it’s an act of solidarity with the rest of us peasants, it could actually be an enemy-of-my-enemy situation where cops find themselves hating UHC as much as the rest of us.
How crazy would it be if the next Luigi is a cop?!
Because their jobs financing is mostly perception based.
Crime can be at an all time low, but all it takes is a politician to rile up the population about murderers and law enforcement and incarceration will end up getting more money.
Be seen as being ineffective, soft or incompetent, especially by those holding the purse strings, and people lose jobs to those who will toe the line.
This is a message to the wealthy “look how seriously we take serving you”
This is the same country that tries to fight radicals in other countries by invading, oppressing, and ultimately creating more radicals. Our elite have little understanding of the socially deviant
They rather kill defenseless children.
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They are probably also scared of people trying to free him since he is quite popular. This isn’t generally the case for other suspects.
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Cause they only care when rich scum are terrorized.
Who controls the present now controls the past.
Terrorism is supposed to be the dogmatic or ideologically motivated killing of civilians, often by those who are willing to die in the process. It’s terror inducing because it could seemingly happen anywhere at any time to any one, and it’s a lot easier to cause harm to others when you’re suicidal and not trying to get away with it.
Of course, that’s not how it’s routinely used, or perhaps was ever really used by anyone except academics.
Not even killed, but even just made to think their plundering might have consequences.
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The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.
Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?
But is it politically motivated?
He was pissed his claim was denied.
I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.
He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.
I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.
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So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.
TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.
He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.
Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.
Wtf is far center?
It’s a bit like far-left or far-right, except it manages to get bipartisan approval.
z axis moment
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….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?
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Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism?
There’s little need to up-charge school shooters. Many of them are killed on sight. Those that are captured (Dylan Roof, for instance) get life without parole or the death sentence.
But in NYC, a single murder without a terrorist motive only gets you to 2nd Degree Murder. That means you’ll be out in 15 years. The “terrorism” addendum is necessary for life without parole sentencing.
Yes, but the charges should fit the crime not be selected to ensure the desired outcome
There is no objective measure of criminal conduct. It’s all malleable. Prosecutors and judges and juries ultimately make these decisions case-by-case. And the results can be heavily weighted by wealthy, socially influential private interests who want to see an example made of a particularly offensive or terrifying individual.
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The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.
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I mean, yes. But folks here aren’t ready for that conversation
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Yes
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Yeah I mean it’s obviously trumped-up bullshit in his case, they’re making a point of throwing the book at him any way they can because the owners got their jimmies rustled
‘Terrorism’ is just a word for anything the state doesn’t like.
Is the second guy who tried to shoot trump being charged with terrorism? Because that was politically motivated.
If he’s not, Luigi also does not deserve the charge.
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No he’s dead.
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I love that Adams is there. He literally has no reason to be there other than self promotion. Do you think they discussed the finer points of being indicted federally? Maybe he is trying to get him to ask for a Trump pardon.
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I guess he’s trying to learn more about prison life before he gets his own perp walk.
He is absolutely doing this to appease trump. Dude is getting hit with terrorism charges here to set up precedent for trump to do whatever the fuck he wants.
They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.
Every day Trump walks free has been sad proof of that
Lotta cops for a little kid with a busted back
He was a lone wolf and they’re acting like the Mafia might come to free him any moment
Mafia should do something useful for once
They acting like the whole country wants to kill him when it’s the complete opposite.
Yeah, the thing that’s shocked me is how my most capitalist liberal friends are in agreement he did nothing wrong. Like some of them are even agreeing when I use the phrase “class warfare”
If they bring out a regiment to guard your show trial you’re almost certainly on the right side of history.
Probably.
90%
Right side of History, sure, but,
For it’s the end of history
It’s caged and frozen still
There is no other pill to take
So swallow the one
That made you ill
you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.
Thanks for clarifying. I always thought he meant that our masters were pretending history had stopped and we were frozen in the current moment forever so nothing they do matters.
They’re really telling on themselves. Scared shitless.
That’s what bothers me. The government is like ‘the memes about him aren’t true, he’s nothing special. It’s just murder’
Then they turn around and prosecute saying ‘this isn’t just murder! Look at all the memes! This needs to be enforced like the special event it is’
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The judicial branch has been downplaying it as a simple murder. One man mad at another man. Nothing more. Cool. Then prosecute it as such.
The inconsistent words jeopardize the faith in the system. Neo Nazi lynches a man to prove a point to an entire race that they are not safe… Murder, not terrorism.
Guy kills a CEO over his personal issues with treatment with no master plan or manifesto? That’s a terrorist?
The public needs consistency or we lose trust in the system.
or we lose trust
Huh, first time?
I love this place. Post anything about this on reddit and it’s likely to be removed if it gets too positive or the bots downvote it.
Reddit is a place to promote product. This isn’t product. Give it time and big lemmy servers will turn into reddit, but for now we get to enjoy a safe space.
Thankfully, because of the way Lemmy is built, we will forever have smaller communities that don’t turn into garbage like that.
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That’s some insane bullshit.
Can we stop having school shooters and make this a trend instead? 🙏🏾
Saint Luigi of Baltimore.
Saint Luigi of Wall Street
I saw this on the news and honestly wondered how many cops are required for this prisoner transfer? Because all those people are getting paid to walk a guy past cameras, and they’re probably all getting paid more than me, and there’s SO many of them
“Ah, yep, absolutely doing work here. Work, work, work. Dangerous work. Don’t defund us and here’s the evidence to support why.”
- Multiple U.S. Police Departments Probably
These pigs billed six hours of overtime for the ten minute walk no doubt.
“I stayed vigilant(e) like Batman and he’s a Billionaire! I deserve the overtime penalty rates! … Plus remember all the danger?!”
Probably overtime for all of them too. These low IQ “heroes” all have boats and RVs which arent going to pay for themselves.
Yeah the brownshirts get perks to make them feel better than the proletariat. They rub elbows with the bourgeoisie, and occasionally with the oligarchs, making them feel like part of the in-group. Meanwhile the bourgie think of them as disgusting necessary idiots and the oligarchs think of them as filthy trained dogs.
They needed that many guys because they were afraid of him
There’s 2 possible reasons to have “military” escort. either…
- They must protect the perp from assassination.
- They must prevent mob from liberating him.
I mean both really
Ain’t no one assassinating him.
I mean his fellow prisoners were calling out free Luigi. Some Fox news idiots thought that being a CEO killer was akin to being a child molester who kills kids when he’s done raping them.
They didn’t realize that being wealthy and ruthless in that pursuit wasn’t something they idolized.
United health probably wants to.
But legally.
Reminds me of that saying “don’t kill the messenger”. Maybe the guy was under the influence of drugs. Maybe the guy was not under the influence of some drugs. We can’t just allow him to be tossed into death row. I assume?
That’s why they all had armor and he didn’t. It is number 2.
There is a vibe for caption of “are we the baddies?” to this.
Brian Thompson pleaded guilty to drunk driving in 2017, the same month he became CEO.
Damnnn that is one interpretation of drunk driving. "officer, you don’t understand, drunk driving putting everyones life and freedom at risk is what makes us human
Buying a second house for your estranged wife is very normal. I’ve got tons of very real, normal human friends that buy their wives second houses because divorce would cost more than a second house.
The person is very human, yes.
No wonder he thought he knew better than doctors - his penmanship was for shit.
I write in block letters and he is a shit writer.
I write in cursive enchanting table and I couldn’t decipher that.
What a joke.
Missed opportunity to give him a muzzle.
And wheel him around tied to a hand truck. Cops cant do much of anything right.
