I think this post might be too powerful for lemmy shitpost.
I’m genuinely impressed by the amount of reports I’ve gotten from this thread. This is top tier shit.
Can we get a peek? Sounds juicy
This post is like the one ring of power, if we let it go on for too long everyone here will become a shitpost gollum. The proper thing to do is cast this shitpost into the toilet bowl of mordor where it was forged.
It is a gift. Why not use this shitpost against the foes of the fediverse?
You cannot wield it. It answers to the enemy alone. It has no other master.
No, it is my own! I finds it!
Lemmings read “shitpost” and hear “I need to shove this post up my shitter”
“This is the police! Hands up you FREAK!”
“…im a farmer”
“omg thats so cool, can i bring my kids to watch and maybe they can try?”
“omg thats so cool, can i bring my kids to watch and maybe they can try?”
Context is everything. “The Bible: In the Beginning” (1966) contains a long fully nude Adam & Eve scene, but schools were encouraged to send kids to see it. My school did. But nudity in movies was very rare in 1966 and such a scene would normally have been prohibited by government censorship if not for the biblical framing.
At least you got to see Eve’s tiddies
I don’t think there’s any context that can make up for forced impregnation.
Mary getting impregnated by God in the Bible? Not really forced, but defs not consensual
Source on it not being consensual?
I dont remember her asking for it
Well what do you remember her saying when Gabriel showed up and offered to make her mother of the Messiah?
Buddy shows up, flying, flaming sword, tells you God with a capital G is gonna knock you up, kinda high pressure, no?
But hey, she should be grateful. Its a 'uge honor! Really, He’s doing this for her. And He’s God. When You’re God, they let You do what You want. You just (metaphisically) grab em by the pussy, right? Otherwise, someone’s gonna be a pillar of salt…
“I am the Lord’s servant. May it be done to me according to your word”, which to me i hear words like “servant” and “to your word” and i think this person thinks their word is lower than the other person due to power imbalance etc, and im pretty sure The Gospel of Matthew doesnt mention Mary’s consent. Or maybe even asking her for it, im not sure.
She didn’t even know it happened
this entire post and thread.
also I’m just happy to see such engagement in the fediverse. really brings out the lurkers.
dude i’m not one to kinkshame, but, uh, your kink is showing
Fruit is perfectly wholesome and natural though. Except they aren’t…
Corn is basically a bulge of semen because of how humans have bred it.
Bananas are incapable of reproducing. All bananans you find in the supermarket are clones. If men were to die out, so would the common (cavendish) banana.
Cows are bred for milk production. If it wasn’t for men, their milk production would be very different. It’s just as natural as a banana.
Cows are just as unnatural as bananas, but the farming of animals is much more cruel, unnecessary, and destructive to the environment
True, but the monoculture of banans is also destructive to the environments and biodiversity.
That’s why I used the phrasing “much more”
We’re also the only reason cows still exist.
Are they overdue to go extinct somehow?
The cows we have that we get milk and beef from never lived in the wild. They’re domesticated from wild aurochs that started up around 10,000 years ago. Cows are domesticated food sources that wouldn’t exist without us, just like dogs wouldn’t exist without us.
Ah, yeah, I thought it was if we go extinct, not if we never existed
I JUST RECENTLY found out I enjoy corn now. Dont take this away from me.
Wait which part of the man is the banana reliant upon
the part where we use pesticides, fertilizer and other techniques to make sure these plants don’t die. they’re bred for usefuleness, not for surviving in the wild. this is basically true for all crops we farm
the part we eat.
You guys are doing it for the meat and that’s weak. I don’t need a reason.
If people are willing to mastrubate bulls for money, then just imagine what else they are willing to do to earn a buck.
Bull*. Earn a bull. Bucks are deer, silly.
Hey, $20 is $20
Some will fuck horses for money, just ask the italians.
Context?
Wasn’t expecting a Cicciolina reference in the wild
Also, fun fact: she ran as an MP
I searched that wiki page for “horse” and found nothing, please can someone explain what that reference is because from the sounds of it I really don’t want to search it…
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204203/reviews/?featured=rw9886407 Found it. The description is rather descriptive.
What a terrible day to be able to read…
ITT: Animal abuse apologia
no one is defending animal abuse
Just supporting
BASED username
no one said they support it either
“I am”
spoiler
I’m not.
That’s just not true. Read the comments again.
it was true when I wrote it, and there are literally hundreds of new comments since then. got a link?
This fuckin comment section.
Which film is this gif from?
reads some comments
makes a couple comments
reads more comments
…
…
Veganism is unnatural because we’re all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.
Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.
Both can be true.
Fun fact, we evolved to eat raw meat, that’s why we have an appendix. Then, when we stopped eating raw meat, we started to evolve away from the appendix.
Evolutionary arguments don’t support the naturalist fallacy, because evolution doesn’t work like that. It responds to environmental pressures. It’s not some guiding light for what we’re “meant” to be doing, it’s the tools we’ve got to support what we already did.
This article says it was for raw vegetables:
For our ancestors, the appendix most likely evolved to help them digest a diet rich in raw vegetables and cellulose, as it still does in many herbivorous mammals. Thousands of years ago it would have functioned as an extension of the cecum, involved in the bacterial digestion of fibrous plant materials.
That is not proven though, the appendix part, that’s the explanation I like the best as well. Other explanations, I forget, the aliens had it for some shit we don’t even know about, oh yeah, the more likely non joke one, and it could be what you say and this both many organs do multiple things, is to provide a reservoir of gut bacteria, to repopulate the gut after the system is flushed. That would go right along with digesting raw meat, as using independent bacteria is large part of the human body we’ve come to learn.
I forget what the other theories are, but there are others for the appendix, I believe the raw meat and reservoir of bacteria both though is most likely.
While still technically a theory, the appendix acting as a reservoir for healthy gut bacteria has largely been proven. That function could very well have helped with digestion of raw meat as well, especially if eating raw meats caused issues with diarrhea.
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That wasn’t fun
The bricks and the gravel and the mud and the blood
Another wild teenager in search of success, welcome to the jewel of the modified westLook. If you want it to scan, it’s got to be "‘ppendix’, otherwise there’s an extra syllable there. :)
It’s probably got more to do with eating less rotten meat than eating less raw meat. It has functions for the immune system it is like the surveillance system for what is being introduced to the body.
Our monkey, or rather ape, ancestors were more vegan than meat eater.
Today, most people are “more vegan” than meat eater, too, as in they eat more grains and vegetables than meat. If that’s what you meant.
More vegan.
What a curious phrase. Not just for the substitution of vegetarian for vegan, but for the use of “more”. More vegan. I thought it was binary. Are there partial vegans? I thought that wasn’t allowed.
Because my diet includes more calories and nutrition from plant matter than meat most days, am I more vegan now?
You may already be a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexitarianism
"International research explains that flexitarianism is used as a broader term to describe partial reductions in meat consumption without fixed requirements.[7]"
Sorry, you’re too late. I now identify as More Vegan. ;)
Its more fun to highlight that veganism is about ethics so its not dietary its about ethical consumption of animal products. Which humans are animals.
And you could be a carnivore vegan - all you’d have to do is find volunteer meat to eat, so you’d need to be a cannibal or find that talking cow from the Douglas Adams books.
And I’m sorry but why add the fucking picture I don’t get how that is applicable to anything
I was going to add a picture of Epstein and his super pals from a mural in sydney but I don’t even see how to do that.
The picture is of “the vegan police” from Scott pilgrim vs the world (2010)
In prehistory the are not eating dairy, but may eat dead animals, insects, shellfish, etc.
So not all vegan, but moreso than not.
Humans evolved to proccess dairy, not once, not twice, but 3 times. Some studies even suggest up to 5 times.
Seems like it was definitely advantageous to consume dairy
Outside of mother’s milk our ape ancestors weren’t getting any dairy though. Maybe the last 10k, even longer, years. Not the last 100k, to say nothing of the last 10 million.
You are right it is a newer adaptation, but one that was clearly advantageous to our species. There are not many evolutionary changes that occurred independently in 3-5 different populations.
Crabs have entered the chat
That’s literally not in any way shape or form veganism. That’s omnivorous, no ifs ands or buts about it.
There’s no evidence to support that. Best evidence is that our ancestors for the longest time were likely opportunistic omnivores. Plants of course were a large part of the diet, but looking back to about 3.9 mya meat was on the menu.
They overwhelmingly ate more plants than meat we can safely presume. Meat they could get would be mostly insects, and an already dead or sick animals. Later when they came out of the trees shellfish.
Yes scavenging for meat is generally considered a very important part of human evolution. Our stomachs are particularly acidic when compared to other great apes. This is believed to have evolved due to a high consumption of scavenged meats.
You are right though plants generally did form a large portion of our and our ancestors diets.
Important to note that as our brain size increased it did correlate with increased meat consumption as well. This all goes into calorie densities, available nutrients, and evolutionary pressures.
that’s like comparing us to the primordial plankton that use to eat microbes.
it’s just really stupid.
let’s ignore 25 million years of evolution.
Pandas would like to have a word wich yu
Evolution is on a long scale, we have a lot longer as vegans than we do eating any meat to speak of outside insects and scavenging. Only a blink of an eye hunting our own meat to a large extent, a small fraction of a million years, compared to millions, and tens of millions, vegan ish.
Longer when you include like passive meat eating, like shellfish, which is what people were thought to be following as they colonized the middle east and asia.
“outside insects and scavenging”
So, scavenger and omnivore… never vegan
I guess you are right.
Holy shit, that has never happened.
Thanks buddy! I’M A MASTER DEBATER
if your argument is that we were herbivores longer than omnivores I’ve got some news for you. we ate planktons for alot longer than plants, mostly because plants didn’t even exist for millions of years.
so by your logic we should be eating phytoplanktons instead of plants and animals.
you can’t just dismiss millions of years of evolution on a whim based entirely on an emotional reaction.
be vegan all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are an omnivore.
Not millions though, tens of thousands eating meat, millions eating mostly vegan. I’m not a vegan btw don’t have a dog in this fight.
“mostly vegan” meaning “omnivore”.
We, humans, have only existed for around 200,000 years, you are referring to multiple different species that are explicitly not Homo Sapiens Sapiens that all had different organic needs and requirements than what we require. This stance really does not hold any kind of scientific relevance to the human diet. We are inarguably evolved, as humans, to be omnivores, and arguably obligate omnivores if you’re trying to be scientific about it.
Veganism is a choice based on modern subjective morality, there is no objective or scientific explanation or reason for humans to be vegan. It’s a choice, plain and simple, and it does not make you better or worse than anyone else.
Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.
Definitely. Aren’t their hands in the anus?
A guy reading a Bible on one hand with his hand a foot deep into a cow’s behind…they let you do it if you’re famous said the lord.
A guy reading a Bible on one hand with his hand a foot deep into a cow’s behind
…you…you do know that’s not how insemination works…right?
if they’re in it’s behind, that’s an impacted colon and they are likely trying to clear it.
Vegans will NEVER have the political clout to force their way of life on everyone, and they’re mad AF about it.
to force their way of life on everyone
So fascism?
It’s not just political clout. Attempting to politically force veganism on the world would result in a war, not just votes against it.
Vegans don’t want to force anything on anyone. What we want to do is to persuade people to change their minds. I believe wholeheartedly that veganism as a majority position is inevitable. In the past, the idea that black women would be allowed to vote was more unthinkable than majority veganism is now. History trends towards progressivism.
Uh, the guy in your link wasn’t fucking around though, he got lynched by an angry mob but did nothing wrong.
Not only that, but also vegan diet is literally making people crazy (or crazy people are more often on vegan diet, dealer’s choice).
Source: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2020.1741505#abstract
The majority of studies, and especially the higher quality studies, showed that those who avoided meat consumption had significantly higher rates or risk of depression, anxiety, and/or self-harm behaviors. There was mixed evidence for temporal relations, but study designs and a lack of rigor precluded inferences of causal relations. Our study does not support meat avoidance as a strategy to benefit psychological health.
This study was funded in part via an unrestricted research grant from the Beef Checkoff, through the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.
This is a metastudy not an original study though?
(And this is a shitpost community)
It means this metastudy is less of a study and more of an advertisement. The outcome of a metastudy depends even more on who does it, especially if they make up the criteria for which research is “good” enough to include.
I think people on the left as whole would be more prone to depression and anxiety too. People who care about the world are generally more concious, more self-aware and critical, which turn into more worrying and at the extreme, anxiety.
vegan diet is literally making people crazy
Wrong.
(or crazy people are more often on vegan diet, dealer’s choice).
Mmm, no, there is a right answer and it’s this one. Well, it’s this one with more inclusive language. Like “People who have experienced more hardship with psychological consequences are more likely to avoid consumption of animal products”.
People who have experienced more hardship
Doesn’t match the data. Study and raw data say nothing about the hardships.
This fella doesn’t know mental illnesses are caused by hardship and trauma
Can be caused my dude.
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I don’t agree with the use of the word “sociopathic”. It’s Greek for “socially ill” and has historically been associated with pseudoscientific stereotypes applied with people with antisocial personality disorder. Mental disorders are not bourgeois, they are proletarian. They are associated with hardship and trauma, not privilege.
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Why would I read books by authors willing to use ableist slurs? Martha Stout and Paul Babiak sound like terrible people I want to hear nothing from. I’m already sure their opinions on mental disorders are worthless pseudoscientific garbage.
comparing slaves to animals is exactly what slavers do
We are all animals, and we are comparable
yep. you can compare an apple to an orange.
So according to you slaves are animals, neat
It is cruel to treat other life cruelly.
In the eyes of slavers, slaves would be seen as animals and treated as such. Meat farmers treat animals poorly, too.
I don’t understand the point you are trying to make.
I don’t understand the point you are trying to make.
what a coincidence neither do they
Interesting that someone could look at a normal (albeit unpleasant) veterinary procedure and immediately think of beasiality.
“Normal” in the context of industrial agriculture… Which has existed for less time than beastiality (source: idk might have made it up but it seems likely)
I wonder if they would use the same argument on a photo of someone receiving gender-affirming care.
I have a feeling the person receiving gender-affirming care consented to it. On a risk of sounding like a creep, I will even say they asked for it.
There is nothing normal about shoving your entire arm up a cow’s asshole in order to slightly increase the chance of your artificial insemination working so you can murder its baby and drink all the milk produced to nurture that baby.
You’re sick.
That’s not what they’re doing. It’s more than a little weird you think so.
That’s not what they’re doing.
It absolutely is what they’re doing, what do you mistakenly believe they’re doing?
There’s chocy milk in them veins I can smell it.
Murder and drink the milk xD. wheezing. Seriously though renting a bull cant be more expensive than a vet. Even a cattle auction has to be cheaper.
You’re looking at rape porn right now.
Thsts enough. An idiot stands out in the comments when they keep repeating the same comment to everyone.
How eugenicist of you.
This is either rape and the poster is sharing rape porn with zero concern for the victims or its not because they’re goddamn cows. You don’t get to have it both ways.
Get off the phone and focus on school.
No. Trolling hypocritical “vegans” is much more fun. Go look at some more cow porn you fucking freak
And this, kids, is why we don’t determine our morality according to whether or not a behaviour is “normal.”
I came across a vidya on the interwebs many hears ago where a monkey grabbed a frog and used it as a fleshlight… Ever since then Ive had a different relationship with the word “unnatural”. The truth is that shoving your arm up a cows ass and eating vegan fervantly and being a hater ass bitch are all perfect examples of natural human behaviour…and im well past thinking theyre not.
I personally think we should close the loopholes in bestiality laws used by farmers.
