• Hours after the US airstrike on Iranian territory, Iranian-backed hackers took down US President Donald Trump’s social media platform.
  • Users were struggling to access Truth Social in the early morning following the alleged hack.
  • As the US continues to insert itself into the ongoing Iran-Israel conflict, the US government believes more cyberattacks could happen.
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    I’m still at a loss for words thinking that any real human people joined truth social. We really failed as a species…

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    Unclear from the article but, while a bit pedantic, this sounds more like it was potentially a DDoS attack rather than a proper “hack”.

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      In an age where “willfully giving out your account password” is called hacking, here I’d call it tomato or tomato.

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      313 Team is an Arabic-interest hacker collective, aligned with Iran, Palestine and Iraq, they reportedly used a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack against Truth Social.

      The article seems pretty clear to me. Maybe it was updated?

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      In order to launch a meaningful DDoS there must be thousands of compromised machines to use. I would absolutely say compromising such a large amount of machines is hacking.

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        A lot of DDOS attacks nowadays are from a DDOS for hire service.

        So there could be hacking done, or just a bitcoin transfer.

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          These DDOS for hire services make use of hacked machines as botnets to perform the DDOS attacks.

          So while the people paying for the service didn’t hack anything, the people performing the DDOS certainly did.

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        Or they just found a buffer overflow bug on their border router/firewall. I can’t imagine Truth Social has a keen network engineering team keeping up to patching and vulnerabilities.

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          Doesn’t Truth Social run a super old custom modded version of Lemmy? That thing must have a ton of vulnerabilities.

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        It’s absolutely hacking those computer, just not the site. I just don’t want to get overly excited for something that doesn’t have much meat to it.

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        It’s been tried. A huge percentage of the internet runs on Amazon web services… And a massive ddos attack on that barely bumped it beyond the level of holiday shopping.

        To get anywhere on “taking down the internet” they’d probably have to physically take out many sites across the globe.

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          Sea cables are probably the most vulnerable point of the internet. There are comparatively few of them (on the order of a few hundreds), they are long, and most of their length is not guarded at all. The only reason I can think of, why nobody has targeted them at large is that it would also cut of the attacker.

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          You say this like the hour all major SAAS went down 2 weeks ago was nothing. MILLIONS lost in business hours is not nothing.

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                Feeling concern for the welfare of a corporation is a lot like caring for a lion or some other large predator. You don’t want to see it suffer but you know that it could turn on you at any moment, when it’s convenient for them.

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                  Not even sure why/were you’re even taking this. They said a major outage was no worse than a website being overwhelmed by shoppers. I pointed out it’s in fact waaayyy worse. I don’t give a fuck about the corporations lost time.

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          Iran is known for its barbaric treatment of women who refuse the forced muslim dress code. They are a equally corrupt government. No good people involved at the upper levels. SSDD.

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            Yeah good thing the US respects women’s autonomy and isn’t being strangled by a fundamentalist religious movement that wants to force women to be nothing more than incubators, maids, and fuck toys…😒

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              Most of us do respect womens autonomy. I know I taught my daughter that. The loud mouth weaklings don’t. They hate that women don’t have to spread on command.

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                I couldnt give a single flying fuck if “most of you” are such good people that you’d willingly live in a militant feminist matriarchy; the fact is our enemy is not Iran or it’s people and you’re here patting yourself on the ass for having the literal minimum level of decency expected of a father

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              Both of you are right but there’s definitely levels to how much worse it is in Iran

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                Different doesn’t necessarily equate to worse. The IR does oppress women, without a doubt; but American society exploits young women’s sexuality for financial gain, psychologically manipulates them into prohibitive gender norms that are impossible to achieve without vast amounts of wealth and privilege, and then tells them the most important thing they can aspire to be is mother to a man’s offspring.

                In short, you, your society, and your government are not as different-and clearly not any better-from any other in the world.

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                  A lot of this comment hinges on your belief that US women are not intelligent enough to to understand that exploitation and manipulation. Knowledge has progressed a lot in the last 20 years. Look at the under 18 and 20-24 age groups here

                  There are much better examples of the subjugation of women in the US right now than to pin the societal oppression on US’ fostering of an anti intellectual society.

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                Iran has more FEMALE engineers than the US and less of it’s population in jail.
                Iran’s healthcare has been rated excellent by UNICEF.
                I could continue, but facts can’t win from the propaganda machine online.
                So I’m just gonna laugh make fun of it.

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                  The freedom of both women and the general public is not solely dictated by healthcare and the ability to attain higher education.

                  Does a free society cut off country wide access to the external internet?

                  Iran is actively lying to its citizens saying they destroyed the US base in Qatar and there was minimal damage to Iranian nuclear facilities. Both outright lies. This is not a free golden society.

                  How many women are persecuted from laws around the head dressing and other clothing related issues.

                  Boiling womens rights down to they can become an engineer and have good healthcare is laughably pathetic and on the verge of being a conservative talking point I would hear on fox news in justification for stripping away more rights. Pinning the struggle of US women against Iranian women is an incredibly pathetic mindset that only fosters negativity.

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            While there are religious extremists in Iran, their level of influence on Iranian culture is not anywhere near what you’re saying. You’re just repeating western propaganda.

            They did have a controversial new dress code law that was supposed to go into effect at the end of last year, but it was blocked for being to extreme and vague.

            However, my state just forced a brain dead woman to incubate a baby against the family’s will. So I’m inclined to agree with those saying the religious extremists exercise greater control in the US than Iran, and by your standards that means they should bomb us. Because I guess you think killing people is equal to freeing them.

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              You are stretching that one out. I don’t support Israel any more than I support Iran. They are both trash.

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                You’re repeating Israeli lies. So you’re either surreptitiously supporting Israel, or you’re serving as a useful idiot.

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              Yeah the US/hasbara propaganda tools are out in full force.
              Sure this cunt is one of them

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              Solid-State Disk Drive, it’s a regular hard drive with the platters hot-glued to stay still

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                That’s right. The platters are heavy, and the reader head is light, so we just whip the reader head around at 7200rpm

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              You try using logic. I didn’t say anything of the sort. You came up with that yourself.

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            LOL
            The literal hasbara operative excuse to excuse them for genociding those misanthrophic barbarian Palestinians.
            Really, you’re all so boring and unimaginative.
            Must be tiring defending the many many warcrimes from USSA/pissrahell.
            Glad you’re getting youe ass kicked and turning into Gaza yourself, it warms my heart.

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      “Hacker group”.

      What a joke. Any kid with a credit card can unleash a ddos attack on a website.

      An irrelevant website none the less. If that pile of shit goes down then the entire world benefits.

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      Not really. Most people around the world are pretty much in the same boat. The “leaders” of governments try to propagandize differences, but everyone is living the same shitty existence. Elites vs poors across the globe. Occasionally you get groups that are extremely radical, but it’s not specific really to any country (We see a lot of out of the ME and Africa mostly due to prolonged Colonial abuse, admittedly.)

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      The word “hack” is pre-internet. A “hack” journalist or a “hack job” is basically something unprofessional. It is movies that turned “hackers” into someone that gained access to the “mainframe”. In the realm of computer systems, I would argue that a “hack” is doing anything the system was not intended/designed to do. A successful DoS or DDoS needs to find some component of the system that wasn’t designed to handle the amount of traffic about to be sent to it.

      There are protections for DDoS (iptables, fail2ban, Cloudflare and so on), you have to figure out a way around them, that’s a hack.

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        The current tech-related usage was coined at MIT to mean working on a system. Funny that the oldest recorded source comes from MIT model railroad team.

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        Mailing someone more letters than they’re capable of replying to is not equivalent to, nor a component of, gaining access to the inside of their home.

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          Disabling network security and edge devices to change the properties of ingress can absolutely be a component of an attack plan.

          Just like overwhelming a postal sorting center could prevent a parcel containing updated documentation from reaching the receiver needing that information.

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            I haven’t heard of a firewall failing open when overwhelmed yet. Usually quite the opposite, a flood disables access to more than just the targeted device, when the state table overflows.

            But maybe there is a different mechanism I’m not aware of. How would the DDoS change the properties of ingress?

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              By denying access to resources in a primary region, one might force traffic to an alternate infrastructure with a different configuration. Or maybe by overwhelming hosts that distribute BGP configurations. By denying access to resources, sometimes you can be routed to resources with different security postures or different monitoring and alerting, thus not raising alarms. But these are just contrived examples.

              Compromising devices is a wide field with many different tools and ideas, some of which are a bit off the wall and nearly all unexpected, necessarily.

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          I mean, I know JK Rowling sucks, and it’s been a long time since the first Harry Potter movie came out, but it was definitely a component and precursor to Hagrid beating the shit out of that door.

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            To be fair, they had moved to an unsecure location that was a much softer target by that point. Can a DDOS force someone to move their services over to the equivalent of a century old, weather-beaten lighthouse in the middle of England?

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    Might be smart for Iran to just attack trump’s businesses as retribution for the bombings; if they attack the military, we’ll surely get pulled into another war, but just going after trump’s businesses will probably avoid a military response and maybe will make republicans come around to the fact that he should have divested himself from his businesses when he became president.

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      going after trump’s businesses will probably avoid a military response

      More likely, it makes the poor baby (-hands) cry and throw a tantrum. Being the malignant narcissist he is, he thinks the resources of the United States government are entirely at his disposal. With that in mind, he’s absolutely going to demand a military response to any attacks on his businesses.

      Whether saner heads prevail, all we can do is hope.

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        Yeah agreed, he’s absolutely going to demand a military response to any attacks on his business, but maybe that’s enough to divide the republicans in congress and they’ll start to rein him in. Still going to take a lot for them to develop the balls to stand up to him, but might be good for us if Iran just goes after his businesses.

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      His administration says damage to Teslas equates to terrorism. I don’t think it would go how you’re thinking.

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      With any other president I’d agree but this is Trump. A venal and petty man who wouldn’t think twice before using the country’s soldiers and even nuclear weapons to defend his sense of pride

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      The bombings are an act of war, so Trump’s already dragged the US into a war with Iran at this point, despite the spin about being “at war with Iran’s nuclear programme but not Iran itself”

      I doubt Iran are that worried about the Americans starting a ground invasion either, it would be an absolute bloodbath and will have MAGA and non-MAGA everywhere calling for Trump’s head.

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    Thankfully only DDos. Truth Social is Mastodon so a security flaw could have been a real problem.

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      nah it’s a lazy fork so seeing how he chooses people (they’re either cheap or friends of friends or both) “truth” can easily have a totally new security issue

      maybe the server has a root password that’s “trump454748$$$”

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      Never saw security flaw now as a real problem. You just have to live with the fact that there is one. And you will suffer when it’s used. Security flaw later is a real problem.

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      We have a president who issues fascistic edicts from the toilet and then phrases them like a Karen in her first term on her HOA or Condo board.

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      May just be the only thing that saves this country. Fewer people on social media is good for society at this point.